Archaeologist sees proof for Bible in ancient wall

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JERUSALEM – An Israeli archaeologist said Monday that ancient fortifications recently excavated in Jerusalem date back 3,000 years to the time of King Solomon and support the biblical narrative about the era.

If the age of the wall is correct, the finding would be an indication that Jerusalem was home to a strong central government that had the resources and manpower needed to build massive fortifications in the 10th century B.C.

That's a key point of dispute among scholars, because it would match the Bible's account that the Hebrew kings David and Solomon ruled from Jerusalem around that time.
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"Proof for bible" can you please be more specific? Proof for the events that take place or the proof for the exists of the location?


Please read the entire post and the link for more details and yes the site shows they found evidence to back the bibles claims that the Hebrew kings David and Solomon ruled from Jerusalem around the time the bible claimed it did. God Bless
 
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I read a book that mentioned the Regan presidency. That doesn't make the book anymore real because it mentions something that really happened.


The bible's not just historically accurate (proven through archaeological accuracy) but the bible is the only book that has fortold the future through prophecy before it has happened. The places of the bible you can still visit today not to mention the miracles that are still happening today.

Anyway here are 30 Bible prophecies that have happened or that is happening right now:


1.) Mankind would be capable of destroying all life (Matthew 24:21-22). Consider that when Jesus made this prophecy the armaments of His day were swords and spears. But today, with nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, it is possible to wipe out all flesh on planet earth.

2.) There would be a global cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Never has there been such a concerted, global effort to bring about peace at any cost as there is today.

3.) The returning Jews would come from the north, south, east, and west (Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10,Ezekiel 37:21). Amazingly, nearly a million Jews have emigrated from Russia in the north. Over 90,000 Ethiopian Jews have emigrated from the south (Zephaniah 3:10). Since 1948, Jews have emigrated from Europe, Asia, the Americas, everywhere!

4.) Israel would prosper economically (Ezekiel 38:12-13). Amazingly, this recently regathered, tiny nation exported over 30 billion dollars worth of goods in 2004. In contrast, their neighbor Jordan exported less than 3 billion in 2004. This was inconceivable just a few decades ago!

5.) In the last days Israel would have a peace treaty in place that the Antichrist will confirm and eventually break (Daniel 9:27). Currently the world's governments are striving for an Israeli peace treaty.

6.) The earth would be filled with violence (Luke 17:26; Genesis 6:11-13). In the United States alone, violent crime has increased nearly 500% since 1960. Fifty years ago abortion (the violent murder of an unborn child) was illegal in most countries. Today abortion is legal in most countries and 50 million children are aborted each year.

7.) Multitudes would travel to and fro (Daniel 12:4). Prior to the Industrial Revolution, few individuals traveled beyond their community. Until recently, horse, foot, and boat were the only modes of transportation. Yet today we travel by car, bus, plane, train, subway, etc. Millions and millions are running to and fro just as Daniel prophesied 2500 years ago!

8.) Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4). Today we are witnessing an explosion of available knowledge. With the advent of the internet, it is estimated that our cumulative knowledge is doubling every five years. This exponential increase is beyond what any one could have imagined!

9.) Deadly diseases (which the Bible calls pestilences) would be common (Matthew 24:7). Emerging diseases such as AIDS, ebola, Hanta virus, Dengue, West Nile, SARS, bird flu, etc., underscore this fact. Ironically, just a few decades ago, some scientists were forecasting that advances in medicine might soon eradicate deadly diseases.

10.) The final generation would be open to receiving a mark on their right hand or on their forehead (Revelation 13:16). Consider how the up and coming generation is tattooed, pierced and marked with all kinds of insignia.Also check out these links about people alreay testing a microchip to be implanted under the skin of people:

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/14/chipman.idg/

http://www.physorg.com/news69341086.html

http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/n...da-clears-rfid

11.) Sexual immorality would be rampant (Jude 18; Revelation 9:21). Keep in mind, Jesus said whoever looks to lust has already committed adultery in his heart (Matthew 5:28). Therefore, God equates Internet inappropriate content, lustful movies, TV shows, and magazines to fornication. The availability and consumption of sensual products has exploded in our generation.

12.) Men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:1-2). This generation, like no other, regards self above all else. Self-love, self-esteem, self-reliance, self-gratification, are encouraged by the media, schools, psychologists, etc. In contrast, Jesus taught self-denial. Even many churches today preach a feel good about yourself message.

13.) Homosexuality would be flaunted at the end of the age. Jesus warned that the last days would be like the days of Lot who lived in wicked Sodom (Luke 17:28-30). We know that the root of Sodom's sin was pride and complacency (Ezekiel 16:49) as it is today. However, Sodom's lasting infamy stemmed from their aggressive homosexual sin (Genesis 19; Jude 1:7). Today, the homosexual agenda is flaunted and forced upon our entire society.

14.) Sorceries referring to witchcraft, magic, or occult practices used to enchant and deceive are also anticipated in the last days (Revelation 9:21; 18:23; 21:8; Isaiah 47:9-15; Micah 5:10-15). Today, interest in the occult is flourishing.

15.) Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, These signs have always been around (2 Peter 3:3-4).

16.) People would reject the sound doctrine of the Word of God and follow the doctrines of men that appeal to their own lusts (2 Timothy 4:3-4; Acts 20:29-30). Others would confess faith in Christ, but not obey His Word (Matthew 24:48-51; Matthew 7:22-23).

17.) Jesus said Christians would be hated for His name's sake (Luke 21:17; Revelation 6:9-11; 20:4). The banning of the Bible, prayer, the Ten Commandments, nativity scenes, Christmas songs, etc., reflects this trend. Also consider that more Christians were martyred during the past century than during all of history.

18.) Israel would be invincible (Zechariah 12:6-9). Since 1948, tiny Israel has been attacked in three major wars and six lesser wars, yet despite being vastly outnumbered, they have defeated all attacking foes. Even during the final battle, when it looks like Israel will be destroyed, the Lord shall deliver her. (Jeremiah 30:3-7; Zechariah 14; Mark 13:14-20). An invincible Israel makes no sense unless you believe God's Word.

19.) The Christian gospel would be preached as a witness to all nations (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10; Revelation 14:6). Today, portions or all of the Bible have been translated into over 2,300 languages and dialects covering over 90% of the world's population. Many Christian organizations are taking the gospel to the ends of the earth such as Teen Mania's global expeditions.

20.) Preparations for a global war anticipated (Joel 3:9-14; Matthew 24:22; Revelation 16:14). Never in history have so many nations stockpiled weapons of mass destruction.

21.) Global communications foreseen (Revelation 11:9-10; 17:8). The Bible prophesies that the entire world will see certain events unfold. The invention of the television and the deployment of global satellite networks during the 20th century allow news to travel the world at the speed of light for the first time ever. Remember that in the apostle John's day, news traveled at the speed of horseback.

22.) The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic Flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by most of the scientific world because it was judgment from God on man's wickedness.

23.) Many wars would erupt (Mark 13:7-8). According to Project Ploughshares, there are over 50 major armed conflicts in the world today.

24.) Anti-Semitism worldwide anticipated (Deuteronomy 28:37; Jeremiah 29:18; 44:8). History confirms that the Jews have been persecuted as no other people group. Hitler tried to exterminate them, and the Antichrist will attempt the same during the Tribulation. Today, anti-Semitism is a global epidemic. For example, of over 700 General Assembly resolutions passed since the establishment of the United Nations in 1945, nearly 450 condemn Israel. None have been passed against any Arab country nor any Arab terrorist organizations! In other words, out of 190 nations in the UN, over 60% of all General Assembly resolutions rebuke just one member, Israel!

http://web.israelinsider.com/Article...Semi/10498.htm

http://www.aish.com/societyWork/soci..._in_Europe.asp

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...l?onclick=true


25.)The last days Jews would plant forests of trees. The Bible even specifies the variety of trees, cedar, acacia, myrtle, oil, cypress, pine, and box (Isaiah 41:18-20). Since 1900 more than one billion trees have been planted in Israel! This has happened in our day after Israel lay barren for nearly two millennia.

26.) Ironically, Egypt and Jordan would not participate in this attack (Ezekiel 38). Interestingly, these two nations have signed recent peace treaties with Israel. Egypt in 1979 and Jordan in 1994.

27.) Population explosion foreseen (Revelation 7:9, 14). The apostle John, who wrote the Book of Revelation, was told the number of an army in the last days - 200 million (Revelation 9:16). This was the approximate population of the world at that time. That John also beholds a great multitude which no one could number coming out of the Great Tribulation at the end of the age (Revelation 7:9, 14), indicates an enormous number of people on planet earth in the last days.

28.) Humanity would become increasingly materialistic and lovers of pleasure (2 Timothy 3:1-5). No generation in history has had so many means to entertain and arouse the senses. Every imaginable hedonistic pleasure is available and has become big business.

29.) The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8). On May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation.

30.) Many would call themselves the Christ (Matthew 24:5). Jesus was an itinerate preacher who never traveled outside the tiny nation of Israel and He had the audacity to say that many would come in His name, claiming to be the Christ. And yet today, multitudes within the New Age Movement, Eastern religions, and the cults call themselves the Christ. This is another incredible prophecy!


Check out this youtube link to see a few of these people who claim to be the Christ:

YouTube - People get ready! (Easier to Read in HQ)
 
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I don't understand the big rush to "prove" the Bible. If the Bible is truly a Holy book that is historically accurate, it will prove itself.

Ironically, some of the same people who claim that the Bible speaks for itself are the same people who seek to "prove" the Bible with archaeology.
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I don't understand the big rush to "prove" the Bible. If the Bible is truly a Holy book that is historically accurate, it will prove itself.

Ironically, some of the same people who claim that the Bible speaks for itself are the same people who seek to "prove" the Bible with archaeology.
Ringo

Some of these people are not rushing to prove the bible but disprove it yet they end up proving what the bible said all along. When the bible keeps testifying of it's accuracy we can use this for people who need to see to believe and rejoice. God Bless
 
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I read a book that mentioned the Regan presidency. That doesn't make the book anymore real because it mentions something that really happened.

I know that it gives me confidence when archeology validates Biblical stories. But, as an atheist, you must have the attitude "yeah, but" since any piece of evidence holds the potential to threaten your worldview.

It's a great find and I am glad for the OP to post it.
 
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The bible's not just historically accurate (proven through archaeological accuracy) but the bible is the only book that has fortold the future through prophecy before it has happened. The places of the bible you can still visit today not to mention the miracles that are still happening today.

Anyway here are 30 Bible prophecies that have happened or that is happening right now:


1.) Mankind would be capable of destroying all life (Matthew 24:21-22). Consider that when Jesus made this prophecy the armaments of His day were swords and spears. But today, with nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, it is possible to wipe out all flesh on planet earth.

2.) There would be a global cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Never has there been such a concerted, global effort to bring about peace at any cost as there is today.

3.) The returning Jews would come from the north, south, east, and west (Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10,Ezekiel 37:21). Amazingly, nearly a million Jews have emigrated from Russia in the north. Over 90,000 Ethiopian Jews have emigrated from the south (Zephaniah 3:10). Since 1948, Jews have emigrated from Europe, Asia, the Americas, everywhere!

4.) Israel would prosper economically (Ezekiel 38:12-13). Amazingly, this recently regathered, tiny nation exported over 30 billion dollars worth of goods in 2004. In contrast, their neighbor Jordan exported less than 3 billion in 2004. This was inconceivable just a few decades ago!

5.) In the last days Israel would have a peace treaty in place that the Antichrist will confirm and eventually break (Daniel 9:27). Currently the world's governments are striving for an Israeli peace treaty.

6.) The earth would be filled with violence (Luke 17:26; Genesis 6:11-13). In the United States alone, violent crime has increased nearly 500% since 1960. Fifty years ago abortion (the violent murder of an unborn child) was illegal in most countries. Today abortion is legal in most countries and 50 million children are aborted each year.

7.) Multitudes would travel to and fro (Daniel 12:4). Prior to the Industrial Revolution, few individuals traveled beyond their community. Until recently, horse, foot, and boat were the only modes of transportation. Yet today we travel by car, bus, plane, train, subway, etc. Millions and millions are running to and fro just as Daniel prophesied 2500 years ago!

8.) Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4). Today we are witnessing an explosion of available knowledge. With the advent of the internet, it is estimated that our cumulative knowledge is doubling every five years. This exponential increase is beyond what any one could have imagined!

9.) Deadly diseases (which the Bible calls pestilences) would be common (Matthew 24:7). Emerging diseases such as AIDS, ebola, Hanta virus, Dengue, West Nile, SARS, bird flu, etc., underscore this fact. Ironically, just a few decades ago, some scientists were forecasting that advances in medicine might soon eradicate deadly diseases.

10.) The final generation would be open to receiving a mark on their right hand or on their forehead (Revelation 13:16). Consider how the up and coming generation is tattooed, pierced and marked with all kinds of insignia.Also check out these links about people alreay testing a microchip to be implanted under the skin of people:

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/14/chipman.idg/

http://www.physorg.com/news69341086.html

http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/n...da-clears-rfid

11.) Sexual immorality would be rampant (Jude 18; Revelation 9:21). Keep in mind, Jesus said whoever looks to lust has already committed adultery in his heart (Matthew 5:28). Therefore, God equates Internet inappropriate content, lustful movies, TV shows, and magazines to fornication. The availability and consumption of sensual products has exploded in our generation.

12.) Men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:1-2). This generation, like no other, regards self above all else. Self-love, self-esteem, self-reliance, self-gratification, are encouraged by the media, schools, psychologists, etc. In contrast, Jesus taught self-denial. Even many churches today preach a feel good about yourself message.

13.) Homosexuality would be flaunted at the end of the age. Jesus warned that the last days would be like the days of Lot who lived in wicked Sodom (Luke 17:28-30). We know that the root of Sodom's sin was pride and complacency (Ezekiel 16:49) as it is today. However, Sodom's lasting infamy stemmed from their aggressive homosexual sin (Genesis 19; Jude 1:7). Today, the homosexual agenda is flaunted and forced upon our entire society.

14.) Sorceries referring to witchcraft, magic, or occult practices used to enchant and deceive are also anticipated in the last days (Revelation 9:21; 18:23; 21:8; Isaiah 47:9-15; Micah 5:10-15). Today, interest in the occult is flourishing.

15.) Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, These signs have always been around (2 Peter 3:3-4).

16.) People would reject the sound doctrine of the Word of God and follow the doctrines of men that appeal to their own lusts (2 Timothy 4:3-4; Acts 20:29-30). Others would confess faith in Christ, but not obey His Word (Matthew 24:48-51; Matthew 7:22-23).

17.) Jesus said Christians would be hated for His name's sake (Luke 21:17; Revelation 6:9-11; 20:4). The banning of the Bible, prayer, the Ten Commandments, nativity scenes, Christmas songs, etc., reflects this trend. Also consider that more Christians were martyred during the past century than during all of history.

18.) Israel would be invincible (Zechariah 12:6-9). Since 1948, tiny Israel has been attacked in three major wars and six lesser wars, yet despite being vastly outnumbered, they have defeated all attacking foes. Even during the final battle, when it looks like Israel will be destroyed, the Lord shall deliver her. (Jeremiah 30:3-7; Zechariah 14; Mark 13:14-20). An invincible Israel makes no sense unless you believe God's Word.

19.) The Christian gospel would be preached as a witness to all nations (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10; Revelation 14:6). Today, portions or all of the Bible have been translated into over 2,300 languages and dialects covering over 90% of the world's population. Many Christian organizations are taking the gospel to the ends of the earth such as Teen Mania's global expeditions.

20.) Preparations for a global war anticipated (Joel 3:9-14; Matthew 24:22; Revelation 16:14). Never in history have so many nations stockpiled weapons of mass destruction.

21.) Global communications foreseen (Revelation 11:9-10; 17:8). The Bible prophesies that the entire world will see certain events unfold. The invention of the television and the deployment of global satellite networks during the 20th century allow news to travel the world at the speed of light for the first time ever. Remember that in the apostle John's day, news traveled at the speed of horseback.

22.) The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic Flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by most of the scientific world because it was judgment from God on man's wickedness.

23.) Many wars would erupt (Mark 13:7-8). According to Project Ploughshares, there are over 50 major armed conflicts in the world today.

24.) Anti-Semitism worldwide anticipated (Deuteronomy 28:37; Jeremiah 29:18; 44:8). History confirms that the Jews have been persecuted as no other people group. Hitler tried to exterminate them, and the Antichrist will attempt the same during the Tribulation. Today, anti-Semitism is a global epidemic. For example, of over 700 General Assembly resolutions passed since the establishment of the United Nations in 1945, nearly 450 condemn Israel. None have been passed against any Arab country nor any Arab terrorist organizations! In other words, out of 190 nations in the UN, over 60% of all General Assembly resolutions rebuke just one member, Israel!

http://web.israelinsider.com/Article...Semi/10498.htm

http://www.aish.com/societyWork/soci..._in_Europe.asp

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...l?onclick=true


25.)The last days Jews would plant forests of trees. The Bible even specifies the variety of trees, cedar, acacia, myrtle, oil, cypress, pine, and box (Isaiah 41:18-20). Since 1900 more than one billion trees have been planted in Israel! This has happened in our day after Israel lay barren for nearly two millennia.

26.) Ironically, Egypt and Jordan would not participate in this attack (Ezekiel 38). Interestingly, these two nations have signed recent peace treaties with Israel. Egypt in 1979 and Jordan in 1994.

27.) Population explosion foreseen (Revelation 7:9, 14). The apostle John, who wrote the Book of Revelation, was told the number of an army in the last days - 200 million (Revelation 9:16). This was the approximate population of the world at that time. That John also beholds a great multitude which no one could number coming out of the Great Tribulation at the end of the age (Revelation 7:9, 14), indicates an enormous number of people on planet earth in the last days.

28.) Humanity would become increasingly materialistic and lovers of pleasure (2 Timothy 3:1-5). No generation in history has had so many means to entertain and arouse the senses. Every imaginable hedonistic pleasure is available and has become big business.

29.) The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8). On May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation.

30.) Many would call themselves the Christ (Matthew 24:5). Jesus was an itinerate preacher who never traveled outside the tiny nation of Israel and He had the audacity to say that many would come in His name, claiming to be the Christ. And yet today, multitudes within the New Age Movement, Eastern religions, and the cults call themselves the Christ. This is another incredible prophecy!


Check out this youtube link to see a few of these people who claim to be the Christ:

YouTube - People get ready! (Easier to Read in HQ)

And with the Thamud (people), who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley?
- (Qur'an:89:9)
http://kaheel7.com/userimages/858585836333.jpg

And with Pharaoh, lord of stakes?
(Qur'an:89:10)

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6590/1183500429ramses111as0.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v36-pnY-t...GPM/QKzm2aSaWNE/s400/beauties_of_egypt_01.jpg


yay I win the argument, I just proved Qur'an is the word of God by showing it mentioned things that happened therefore Qur'an is divine...:doh:
 
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yay I win the argument, I just proved Qur'an is the word of God by showing it mentioned things that happened therefore Qur'an is divine...:doh:

I said the bible is the only book that has fortold the future through prophecy before it has happened (as I already showed) and is historically accurate (proven through archaeological accuracy).

Your post about the qur'an shows no prophecy nor any historical relevance on the subject on how the quran is "divinely" written. Anyway even the qur'an
contains references from the Old Testament and over fifty people found in the bible are also mentioned in the quran.
 
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I said the bible is the only book that has fortold the future through prophecy before it has happened (as I already showed) and is historically accurate (proven through archaeological accuracy).

Your post about the qur'an shows no prophecy nor any historical relevance on the subject on how the quran is "divinely" written. Anyway even the qur'an
contains references from the Old Testament and over fifty people found in the bible are also mentioned in the quran.


The Romans have been defeated
In a near land, and they, after being defeated, shall overcome,
Within bidi'(1-9)years - Allah's is the command in the former case and in the latter - and in that day believers will rejoice In Allah's help to victory. He helpeth to victory whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Merciful.


Qur'an made 2 prophecies which all became true, one prophecy is that the Romans will defeat the Persians after their lose, the second prophecy the Muslims will be victorious against the Romans within 9 years, therefore Qur'an is divine, I win again.
 
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The Romans have been defeated
In a near land, and they, after being defeated, shall overcome,
Within bidi'(1-9)years - Allah's is the command in the former case and in the latter - and in that day believers will rejoice In Allah's help to victory. He helpeth to victory whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Merciful.

Qur'an made 2 prophecies which all became true, one prophecy is that the Romans will defeat the Persians after their lose, the second prophecy the Muslims will be victorious against the Romans within 9 years, therefore Qur'an is divine, I win again.

According to Islam, the Qur’an is not only credible; it is God’s only uncorrupted revelation. Thus, according to Muslim scholars, if it is to be compared with anything in Christianity it is to be compared with Christ rather than the Bible. In truth however, the Bible can be demonstrated to be divine rather than human in origin. The same cannot be said for the Qur’an. Moreover, unlike the Bible the Qur’an is replete with faulty ethics and factual errors.

Check out this site that compares the bible to the qur'an. You can read more here: Bible and Qur'an

Also it's interesting that even the quran contains references from the Old Testament and over fifty people found in the bible are also mentioned in the quran. Check out this link if you would like some of the references:

Biblical narratives and the Qur'an - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christianity and Islam - Bible vs. Quran - Comparison World Greatest Religions

Anyway I did not post any of this to put down your faith in islam but to challenge your world view. There are many flaws in the quran and it is amazing when you experance the power of Jesus Christ who saves you, not by works as the quran teaches but by faith in Jesus. Anyway i hope you have a blessed day!!!
 
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The bible's not just historically accurate (proven through archaeological accuracy)
It isn't anywhere near historically accurate, there's plenty of evidence that the world is older than 6 thousand years and we know there was no global flood.

but the bible is the only book that has fortold the future through prophecy before it has happened. The places of the bible you can still visit today not to mention the miracles that are still happening today.
Especially when you twist those "prophecies" any way you can.

1.) Mankind would be capable of destroying all life (Matthew 24:21-22). Consider that when Jesus made this prophecy the armaments of His day were swords and spears. But today, with nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, it is possible to wipe out all flesh on planet earth.
Nowhere does it say man will be capable of destroying the earth.

21"For then there will be a (A)great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
22"Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for (B)the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.



2.) There would be a global cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Never has there been such a concerted, global effort to bring about peace at any cost as there is today.
There is no global cry for peace. What earth do you live on?

3.) The returning Jews would come from the north, south, east, and west (Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10,Ezekiel 37:21). Amazingly, nearly a million Jews have emigrated from Russia in the north. Over 90,000 Ethiopian Jews have emigrated from the south (Zephaniah 3:10). Since 1948, Jews have emigrated from Europe, Asia, the Americas, everywhere!
People migrate, this isn't news. And it's certainly nothing special.

4.) Israel would prosper economically (Ezekiel 38:12-13). Amazingly, this recently regathered, tiny nation exported over 30 billion dollars worth of goods in 2004. In contrast, their neighbor Jordan exported less than 3 billion in 2004. This was inconceivable just a few decades ago!
Yes, when you have a super power supporting you, you can do all kinds of things. But the prophicy doesn't mention any super powers.

5.) In the last days Israel would have a peace treaty in place that the Antichrist will confirm and eventually break (Daniel 9:27). Currently the world's governments are striving for an Israeli peace treaty.
Really? So during a time of war you think people trying to bring peace is really surprising?

6.) The earth would be filled with violence (Luke 17:26; Genesis 6:11-13). In the United States alone, violent crime has increased nearly 500% since 1960. Fifty years ago abortion (the violent murder of an unborn child) was illegal in most countries. Today abortion is legal in most countries and 50 million children are aborted each year.
When wasn't the earth filled with violence? This isn't anything new.

7.) Multitudes would travel to and fro (Daniel 12:4). Prior to the Industrial Revolution, few individuals traveled beyond their community. Until recently, horse, foot, and boat were the only modes of transportation. Yet today we travel by car, bus, plane, train, subway, etc. Millions and millions are running to and fro just as Daniel prophesied 2500 years ago!
LOL People traveled in daniels time too. They were called traders.

8.) Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4). Today we are witnessing an explosion of available knowledge. With the advent of the internet, it is estimated that our cumulative knowledge is doubling every five years. This exponential increase is beyond what any one could have imagined!
The internet was created to spread information... so theres nothing happening that's surprising. BTW the exact same thing could be said for the invention of the printing press.

9.) Deadly diseases (which the Bible calls pestilences) would be common (Matthew 24:7). Emerging diseases such as AIDS, ebola, Hanta virus, Dengue, West Nile, SARS, bird flu, etc., underscore this fact. Ironically, just a few decades ago, some scientists were forecasting that advances in medicine might soon eradicate deadly diseases.
Are we pretending that they didn't heave deadly diseases in the times of the bible?

10.) The final generation would be open to receiving a mark on their right hand or on their forehead (Revelation 13:16). Consider how the up and coming generation is tattooed, pierced and marked with all kinds of insignia.Also check out these links about people alreay testing a microchip to be implanted under the skin of people:
And? People have been getting tattoos for thousands of years.

11.) Sexual immorality would be rampant (Jude 18; Revelation 9:21). Keep in mind, Jesus said whoever looks to lust has already committed adultery in his heart (Matthew 5:28). Therefore, God equates Internet inappropriate content, lustful movies, TV shows, and magazines to fornication. The availability and consumption of sensual products has exploded in our generation.
In your holy book you have daughters raping their fathers, kings murdering their subjects for their wives and armies of god murdering everyone in a city but the women and you think sexual immorality is something new?

12.) Men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:1-2). This generation, like no other, regards self above all else. Self-love, self-esteem, self-reliance, self-gratification, are encouraged by the media, schools, psychologists, etc. In contrast, Jesus taught self-denial. Even many churches today preach a feel good about yourself message.
No doubt people who feel bad about themselves are easier to brainwash.

13.) Homosexuality would be flaunted at the end of the age. Jesus warned that the last days would be like the days of Lot who lived in wicked Sodom (Luke 17:28-30). We know that the root of Sodom's sin was pride and complacency (Ezekiel 16:49) as it is today. However, Sodom's lasting infamy stemmed from their aggressive homosexual sin (Genesis 19; Jude 1:7).
There have been plenty of societies that had no issue with homosexuality, this is nothing new.

14.) Sorceries referring to witchcraft, magic, or occult practices used to enchant and deceive are also anticipated in the last days (Revelation 9:21; 18:23; 21:8; Isaiah 47:9-15; Micah 5:10-15). Today, interest in the occult is flourishing.
Angry that someone is competing with your religion?

15.) Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, These signs have always been around (2 Peter 3:3-4).
Indeed, some people actually do have an education about history and understand that these things aren't new.
 
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16.) People would reject the sound doctrine of the Word of God and follow the doctrines of men that appeal to their own lusts (2 Timothy 4:3-4; Acts 20:29-30). Others would confess faith in Christ, but not obey His Word (Matthew 24:48-51; Matthew 7:22-23).
There were people in bible times who didn't believe the "word of god" and there were people who confessed faith but didn't follow through... perhaps you've heard of Judas.

17.) Jesus said Christians would be hated for His name's sake (Luke 21:17; Revelation 6:9-11; 20:4).
Christianity is the largest religion on the planet.

The banning of the Bible, prayer, the Ten Commandments, nativity scenes, Christmas songs, etc., reflects this trend.
None of that has happened anywhere that I know of.

Also consider that more Christians were martyred during the past century than during all of history.
Cite?

18.) Israel would be invincible (Zechariah 12:6-9). Since 1948, tiny Israel has been attacked in three major wars and six lesser wars, yet despite being vastly outnumbered, they have defeated all attacking foes. Even during the final battle, when it looks like Israel will be destroyed, the Lord shall deliver her. (Jeremiah 30:3-7; Zechariah 14; Mark 13:14-20). An invincible Israel makes no sense unless you believe God's Word.
Israel isn't invisible, israel has a very powerful ally whose been giving them weapons. Israel would have been wiped off the map along time ago if not for this very powerful friend.

19.) The Christian gospel would be preached as a witness to all nations (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10; Revelation 14:6). Today, portions or all of the Bible have been translated into over 2,300 languages and dialects covering over 90% of the world's population. Many Christian organizations are taking the gospel to the ends of the earth such as Teen Mania's global expeditions.
Imagine that, a religion that puts heavy emphasis on proselytizing is spreading the word....


20.) Preparations for a global war anticipated (Joel 3:9-14; Matthew 24:22; Revelation 16:14). Never in history have so many nations stockpiled weapons of mass destruction.
Now if only most of those nations weren't working to actually reduce the amount of wmd there are.

21.) Global communications foreseen (Revelation 11:9-10; 17:8). The Bible prophesies that the entire world will see certain events unfold. The invention of the television and the deployment of global satellite networks during the 20th century allow news to travel the world at the speed of light for the first time ever. Remember that in the apostle John's day, news traveled at the speed of horseback.
Nowhere does it say that technology would be how the whole world would see these things, indeed a good portion of the world doesn't even have access to this technology so there's zero reason to think anything technological would be what that verse was talking about.

22.) The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic Flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by most of the scientific world because it was judgment from God on man's wickedness.
No there isn't. There is exactly zero evidence of a global flood. Predicting that people would deny that is as amazing as me predicting that people won't believe that the moon is made of cheese.

23.) Many wars would erupt (Mark 13:7-8). According to Project Ploughshares, there are over 50 major armed conflicts in the world today.
There have always been wars. This is nothing new.

24.) Anti-Semitism worldwide anticipated (Deuteronomy 28:37; Jeremiah 29:18; 44:8). History confirms that the Jews have been persecuted as no other people group. Hitler tried to exterminate them, and the Antichrist will attempt the same during the Tribulation.
So you've got a group of people conquering other lands and you are surprised that people don't like them?

25.)The last days Jews would plant forests of trees. The Bible even specifies the variety of trees, cedar, acacia, myrtle, oil, cypress, pine, and box (Isaiah 41:18-20). Since 1900 more than one billion trees have been planted in Israel! This has happened in our day after Israel lay barren for nearly two millennia.
There was no country of Israel in 1900... you do know that don't you?

26.) Ironically, Egypt and Jordan would not participate in this attack (Ezekiel 38). Interestingly, these two nations have signed recent peace treaties with Israel. Egypt in 1979 and Jordan in 1994.
So instead they just support terrorist groups.

27.) Population explosion foreseen (Revelation 7:9, 14). The apostle John, who wrote the Book of Revelation, was told the number of an army in the last days - 200 million (Revelation 9:16). This was the approximate population of the world at that time.
Citation needed.

That John also beholds a great multitude which no one could number coming out of the Great Tribulation at the end of the age (Revelation 7:9, 14), indicates an enormous number of people on planet earth in the last days.
No it just says there were more people than he could count.

28.) Humanity would become increasingly materialistic and lovers of pleasure (2 Timothy 3:1-5). No generation in history has had so many means to entertain and arouse the senses. Every imaginable hedonistic pleasure is available and has become big business.
So you really haven't heard of the Romans have you?

29.) The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8). On May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation.
Um, all nations are born in one day... the United States was born on July 4th... why is this amazing for some people?

30.) Many would call themselves the Christ (Matthew 24:5). Jesus was an itinerate preacher who never traveled outside the tiny nation of Israel and He had the audacity to say that many would come in His name, claiming to be the Christ. And yet today, multitudes within the New Age Movement, Eastern religions, and the cults call themselves the Christ. This is another incredible prophecy!
No, no it's not. What would be amazing would be if Christians didn't proselytize and were just as large. But that's not the way it is.

Check out this youtube link to see a few of these people who claim to be the Christ:
Yes, jesus wasn't the first person to claim to be the son of god. He just got more followers.
 
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I know that it gives me confidence when archeology validates Biblical stories.
It doesn't, it validates certain locations.

But, as an atheist, you must have the attitude "yeah, but" since any piece of evidence holds the potential to threaten your worldview.
Yeah I call out bull when I see it.
 
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According to Islam, the Qur’an is not only credible; it is God’s only uncorrupted revelation. Thus, according to Muslim scholars, if it is to be compared with anything in Christianity it is to be compared with Christ rather than the Bible. In truth however, the Bible can be demonstrated to be divine rather than human in origin. The same cannot be said for the Qur’an. Moreover, unlike the Bible the Qur’an is replete with faulty ethics and factual errors.

Check out this site that compares the bible to the qur'an. You can read more here: Bible and Qur'an

Also it's interesting that even the quran contains references from the Old Testament and over fifty people found in the bible are also mentioned in the quran. Check out this link if you would like some of the references:

Biblical narratives and the Qur'an - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christianity and Islam - Bible vs. Quran - Comparison World Greatest Religions

Anyway I did not post any of this to put down your faith in islam but to challenge your world view. There are many flaws in the quran and it is amazing when you experance the power of Jesus Christ who saves you, not by works as the quran teaches but by faith in Jesus. Anyway i hope you have a blessed day!!!


speaking of faulty ethics, here are couple for ya.

1-"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." Deuteronomy 25:11-12

2-Deuteronomy
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
 
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It isn't anywhere near historically accurate, there's plenty of evidence that the world is older than 6 thousand years and we know there was no global flood.

Especially when you twist those "prophecies" any way you can.

Nowhere does it say man will be capable of destroying the earth.

21"For then there will be a (A)great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
22"Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for (B)the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.


There is no global cry for peace. What earth do you live on?

Thre are many flaw in your post, I do not have the time to address them all so below are a few of them. I will not debate with you because if you have to debate to make your argument you have already lost that argument. Anyway since you do not bother to read nor research this stuff it shows you do not even care about this stuff and if you do not, why then are you on "christian forums"?

1. The bible never said the earth was only 6 thousand years old. The global flood has not been disproven nor proven, there are still many people researching if there was a global flood (there are a couple of religions that also mention a global flood), which we who know God, knows there was indeed a global flood.
 
2. I did not twist any of the scriptures nor the prophecies. If you read the entire thing nowhere did I say "capable of destroying the earth" I said "it is possible to wipe out all flesh on planet earth", not destroy the earth. This is all according to Matthew 24:21-22 in verse 22 it says "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short."

3. Really so when the Israel-Palestine war there was no global cry for peace? Come on, the United sates among other nations cried for peace between Israel and palestine which resulted in a peace treaty. Now it's the iraq war people once again are crying for peace and not just people in the USA but through many nations also want peace. Check the web dude.

Also about number 7 it showed you did not even read the entire thing before you posted. It said "Multitudes would travel to and fro". Not many people traveled in the time of Jesus when he made that prophecy and the people that did were small in number, mostly travelers or yes traders. But today million and millions of people (you know multitudes) are traveling by car, bus,plane,train,subway etc
 
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It doesn't, it validates certain locations.

Yeah I call out bull when I see it.

Sorry sir but you again are wrong, the article validates the people Hebrew kings David and Solomon and the times they ruled. If you continue to insult or call everything you disagree with "bull" then please do not post here. Thank You
 
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As I already said in my last post I will not debate anyone because if you have to debate to make your argument you have already lost your argument (plus aguments generally run in circles, then insults followed by hot tempers). Now if any of you would love to have a friendly discussion on these matters please pm me and I would love to discuss these matters with any of you ( I love discussing scripture and all things relating to our great God). Anyway may you all have a blessed day :)
 
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