Which tribe are you from? Check and see!

dana b said:

"God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." Luke.3;8

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Yes, in which case we would share the same Y-chromosome haplogroup. Repeating already refuted arguments is weak.

dana b said:

" It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing;" John 6;63

" My kingdom is not of this world;" John 18;36

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Yeah, you are taking those verses wildly out of context.

laconicstudent said:

No sorry, I've already demonstrated with a population genetics study that this is not true.

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BritAm has compiled genetical evidence that the Nordic Nations are of Israelite origins:

Link:

DNA and Brit-Am

However, this is not important. What is important is what the scripture states. The 10 tribes became lost. So they have to be somebody, and the scripture informs us of the identity of who the Israelites were to become. I would suggest you see that link, and read other articles from the website.

Asycthian said:

BritAm has compiled genetical evidence that the Nordic Nations are of Israelite origins:

Link:

DNA and Brit-Am

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do you have a peer-reviewed research source?

Asycthian said:

However, this is not important. What is important is what the scripture states. The 10 tribes became lost. So they have to be somebody, and the scripture informs us of the identity of who the Israelites were to become. I would suggest you see that link, and read other articles from the website.

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I would suggest you read the actual population genetics research that show that European and Middle Eastern lineages separated 30,000 years ago.

Your personal Scriptural interpretation < Empirical population genetics research.

laconicstudent said:

do you have a peer-reviewed research source?

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Peer-reviewed material is only written by evolutionists. This is something they even admit, they openly deny creationists access to write in them. This is why creationists had to set up their own research institutations.

I would suggest you read the actual population genetics research that show that European and Middle Eastern lineages separated 30,000 years ago.

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That's lefty propaganda, and nothing but theory.

Your personal Scriptural interpretation < Empirical population genetics research.

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Your research is based on the theory of evolution, which is not proven.

Also the earth isn't even 30,000 years old, so i don't see how lineages could have ''separated 30,000 years ago''.

Physical appearance of ancient Israelites and Jews

Introduction

The following essay, is aimed to give a realistic historical or anthropological view of what the ancient Israelites and Jews looked like. What you will find here, is analysed passages from the Bible, as well as apocrypha, Rabbinic sources and other historical sources.

As you may have noted, just above, i wrote Israelites and Jews. Both arn't the same!

The latter are the proclaimed main decendants of the tribe of Judah, while Israelites descend from the other tribes of Israel. This distinction is very vital to understand and the Bible itself makes this distinction clear between the Israelites and the Judahites (who would later become known as the Jews). Simply in this essay, i will be showing evidences for what the ancient Israelites and ancient Jews looked like physically. In another essay, i will be covering the subject of the physical appearence of Jesus.

This essay will also answer questions like, ''Who are modern Jews''. So yes, it could be quite a long read.

Colour Terminology

Black - Hebrew: chashak, Kamar, Kimriyr, qadar, shachor Greek: melas, gnophos

Red - Hebrew: Adam (aw-dawm) adom adomiy Greek: purrhos

Red is associated with the following in the Bible:

• skin color - Genesis 25:25 (Esau)
• wine - Proverbs 23:31

White - Hebrew: buwts choriy chuwr laban tsachach tsachor Greek: leukos

White is associated with the following in the Bible:

• teeth – Genesis 49: 12
• garments - Esther 8:15, Ecclesiastes 9:8, Daniel 7:9
• skin - Lamentation 4: 7
• clouds Revelation 14: 14
• Hair - Matthew 5: 36 Revelation 1: 14

Degrees of White and Black

White

White is usually expressed in the Bible by the word "laban," which is used of the color of goats (Gen. xxx. 35, 37), of teeth (ib. xlix. 12),of garments (Eccl. ix. 8). Shades of white are: milk-white (Gen. xlix. 12, Lam IV. 7), coriander-seed-white (Ex. xvi. 31), snow-white (Num. xii. 10; II Kings v. 27; Ps. lxviii. 15 [A. V. 14]; Isa. i. 18), and dull white (Lev. xiii. 39). Hence the noun "loben" (whiteness, Ecclus. [Sirach] xliii. 18). The moon, on account of its pale light, is called "lebanah."

The Aramaic terms corresponding to "laban" are "&#7717;awar," and "&#7717;iwwar" (white), applied to a snow-white garment (Dan. vii. 9).

Black

The usual term in the Bible to express the idea of blackness or darkness is shachor "sha&#7717;or" or sh'horah (black). It is used of a sunburnt skin (Job xxx. 30) and of dark horses (Zech. vi. 2). Sheharhor or sh'harhoret as a diminutive of sh'horah is also applied to a swarthy sunburnt complexion (Song of Solomon i. 5-6). When it is desired to express a particular shade of dark, another substantive is added for a closer definition, as "oven-black" (Lam. v. 10), and "raven-black," of hair (Song of Solomon v. 11). "&#7716;ashak" (to be dark), a word generally employed to signify the darkness of approaching night (Isa. v. 30; Job xviii. 6), is also used of the eyes becoming dim (Lam. v. 17) or blind (Ps. lxix. 24), and of a black complexion (Lam. iv. 8). Hence the terms "&#7717;oshek" (darkness), "&#7717;aklili" (Gen. xlix. 12), and "&#7717;aklilut." (Prov. xxiii. 29) refer to the darkly lustrous or inflamed appearance of the eyes.

Colour/ethnic terms in the Talmud

The terms ''Germani'' and ''Kushi'' appear in the Talmud, and relate to skin complexion. A Germani being someone of very pale white skin, while a Kushi someone very dark skinned. This is outlined in Tractate Bechoros 45: ''A Kushi is definitely black'', ''A Germani is definitely white'' and in other Rabbinic sources (see Midrash Negaim 2: 1, read below). I will now show some Rabbinic sources of how the Jews physically described or depicted themselves.

Jews in Rabbinic Sources

The wife of Rabbi Abaye (d. 339AD), called Homa according to the Babylonian Talmud had very pale white skin, and that light shined from it upon a court (Tractate Kethuboth 65a):

''Homa, Abaye's wife, came to Raba and asked him, 'Grant me an allowance of board', and he granted her the allowance. 'Grant me [she again demanded] an allowance of wine'. 'I know', he said to her, 'that Nahmani did not drink wine'. 'By the life of the Master [I swear]'. she replied. 'that he gave me to drink from horns like this'. As she was showing it to him her arm was uncovered and a light shone upon the court''

The Babylonian Talmud also relates that R. Yohanan, upon visiting his ill pupil R. Elazar in a darkened room, exposed his arm and light shone forth because of it's whiteness (Berakhot 5b):

''R. Eleazar fell ill and R. Yochanan went in to visit him. He noticed that he was lying in a dark room so he bared his arm and light radiated from it.''

We also find the following interesting quote (Berakhot 6: 3):

''One who sees an Ethiopian, or an albino, or a [man] red-spotted in the face, or [a man] white spotted in the face, or a hunchback, or a dwarf (or a cheresh or a shoteh or a drunk person) says, "Blessed [are you Lord our God, Ruler of the Universe who creates such] varied creatures''

We clearly learn from this, that the Jews (who wrote the Talmud) were not black ethiopians, nor were they albinos, since they distinguished themselves from these. This list, is a list of those considered ''deformed'' and includes the mention of ''ethiopian'' - meaning blacks were viewed by the writers of the Talmud to be not natural looking because of their extreme darkness of skin. However the quote rejects a racial based hatred, and promotes the idea although blacks (as well as people with spots on their face i.e disease, and albinos and dwarfs) are deformed, they are still nonetheless God's creation. So Afrocentrism is well refuted with this quotation. It is also interesting how the authors of the Talmud, knew who albinos were, and distinguished easily between them and Jews with very light white skin.

Also note the following from Tractate Berachot, Chapter 6, Tosefta 6:

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translation:

''[A person] that sees a black [person],1 a Borek,2 a redhead [person],3 an albino [person]4 , a hunchback [person], a midget,7a deaf [person], a mentally retarded [person], and a drunk [person]10 says [the following Beracha (bleassing):] Baruch [Ata Hashem Eloheinu Melech Haolam] Meshane Habriyot. [A person that sees] a cripple [person],12 a lame [person], a blind [person], and a [person] afflicted with boils, says [the following Beracha:] Baruch [Ata Hashem Eloheinu Melech Haolam] Dayan Haemet.''

Notes: 1. Blacks were known in the Talmud as ''Kushi'' or ''ethiopians'', though both these terms outside of the Talmud's definition don't strictly always relate to blackness. 2. A Borek, is someone who had a skin disease. 3. A redhead does not mean someone with red hair, but who's facial skin, or skin in general was red i.e Esau, Bechorot 45b says that the word Gichor means red and this is the related Hebrew word here. 4. The Hebrew word Lavkan comes from the Greek words &#955;&#949;&#957;&#954;&#972;&#950; (leukoi) and &#955;&#949;&#973;&#967;&#951; (leuchan) both of which mean ''white'', sometimes this word was used to describe albinos, however in other cases Jews who were not albinos but just had very pale skin.

From this quote, it is clear the authors of the Talmud considered the Jews, to be not dark or black skinned, nor red. The skin of the Jews according to the Talmud, was therefore considered to be light or an 'intermediate' type. Some individuals as briefly noted were however very pale white.In Tractate Berakoth 31b it is revealed that the skin of the Jews in the eyes of the authors of the Talmud was neither too pale or too red, but a colour in between red and pale white, presumably a whitish colour, though not the palest. This is confirmed from another source, from the Halakic Midrash (Sifra Emor 3: 10-11) which notes about disqualifications for temple service:

''[Priests who are] very dark, very red, very white, very tall and thing, the dwarf...cannot serve in the Temple''

The favoured skin complexion was therefore in-between dark, red and pale white, meaning as noted an intermediate type, a ''brunette white'' - a term coined by anthropologists to describe the complexion of many Mediterranean's who are inbetween white and light brown in hue. We find a quote lastly from Rabbi Ishmael, a rabbinic sage (Tanna) of the 2nd century AD in the Midrash (Negaim 2: 1):

''The Jews are like the boxwood tree, neither black nor white but in between''

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<H3 class="post-title entry-title">Physical appearence of Israelites

In contrast to the ''brunette-whitish'' or intermediate skinned Jew, found in the Talmud we find in the Bible, and other sources, very different physical attributes of the Israelites. We also may note, that pre-Talmudic Jews or Judahites in the Bible are described very differently, Jews before the Babylonian Captivity (586BC) were obviously quite different looking.

We may firstly note Lamentations 4: 7 of the Bible (KJV):

''Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire''

The word used for white here is laban, in it's purest form relating to pure pale white - the colour of milk. We are therefore told, that the Nazirites of Israel were pure white skinned, ''whiter than milk'' in complexion (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, #3835 laban (law-ban): to be white).

In Song of Solomon 1: 5 (KJV) we are told:

''I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon''

This passage is used by Afrocentrics and others, to try and prove that there were Black or dark skinned Israelites in ancient times. However not only have they misinterpretated this passage, they don't even check the original Hebrew. The Hebrew word translated in the KJV as black here, is sheharhor or sh'harhoret meaning ''a little black'' ''before black'' and not simply ''black'' (shachor), it relates then to a swarthy or dark complexion obtained from the sun, not natural black or dark skin. Knowing this, many Bible editions have corrected this mistake, which is why, the word has been translated instead of ''black'' as ''dark'' or ''dusky'' (see for example YLT and WEB translations). What follows Song of Solomon 1: 5, is a verse which explains this very clearly, however Afrocentrics never of course read this verse, Song of Solomon 1: 6 (KJV):

''Look not upon me, because I am black (sh'harhoret - dark/dusky ''before black''), because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.''

In brackets above i have placed the coorect Hebrew definition. But what is important here, is that this verse explains about how the Israelite female obtained dark skin - from the sun, ''the sun hath looked upon me''. This is very similar to Job 30: 30. What we are also informed is that this Israelite obtained her darkish skin via the sun as she worked in the vineyard. She was thus outside, doing slaves work, traditionally Israelite females would not have done this and this is why the Israelite in question is though ''proud to be dark''. They broke the tradition, her family here angry with her. One must logically assume, the skin of this female Israelite must have been whitish to have turned dark by the sun. For if this Israelite was originally dark skinned, how could she have turned dark because of the sun? From this passage alone we can conclude:

(a) Israelite females were pale skinned, and were not traditionally meant to work outside which would darken their skin.
(b) Israelites did not like to see their women ''darken'' by the sun. We are told in Song of Solomon 1: 6, that the family of the Israelite girl who darkned was angry with her.

We are also informed from the Bible alone, about the hair of the ancient Israelites.

A woman's hair was never cut except as a sign of deep mourning or of degradation (Jer. vii. 29; comp. Deut. xxi. 12). Israelite females grew their hair very long. This is a simple point which alone refutes Afrocentrism, blacks can not grow natural long hair, because their hair texture was not meant for longness. We are told in Numbers 6: 1-5 about how the male Nazirites were to grow long hair naturally, and this also would not be possible if they had wooly negroid type hair:

''As long as he is a Nazirite, he must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins. During the entire period of his vow of separation no razor may be used on his head. He must be holy until the period of his separation to the LORD is over; he must let the hair of his head grow long.''

See also Judges 13: 5; 16: 19 which reveals Samson was a Nazirite who grew very long natural hair and also 1 Samuel 1: 11. A bald head or very short hair, therefore, was an object of mockery (II Kings ii. 23; comp. Isa. iii. 17, 24).

The following is a list of Biblical figures, of Israelite heritage who i have analysed from the Bible and other historical documentation. Provided is what they physically looked like.

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Paul of Tarsus

Saul (whose Roman cognomen was Paul; see Acts xiii. 9), better known as Paul of Tarsus was of Isrealite stock, from the tribe of Benjamin, as told in Philippians 3:5 (KJV):

''...of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews''

This is also repeated in Romans 11: 1. What did Paul look like? We are not provided with any detailed physical features of Paul in the Bible. However an apocryphal source from the 2nd century BC, called Acta Pauli et Theclae or The Acts of Paul and Thecla physically describes Paul as follows (translation by Edgar J. Goodspeed, 1901, p. 186):

''A man of moderate stature, with crisp hair, crooked legs, blue eyes, large knit brows, and long nose, at times looking like a man, at times like an angel, Paul came forward and preached to the men of Iconium: 'Blessed are they that keep themselves chaste [unmarried]; for they shall be called the temple of God. Blessed are they that mortify their bodies and souls; for unto them speaketh God. Blessed are they that despise the world; for they shall be pleasing to God. Blessed be the souls and bodies of virgins; for they shall receive the reward of their chastity.''

Paul according to this source was blue eyed, of medium height and long nosed.

David

David was born in Bethlehem. And we are told of his Judahite ancestry through his father (Ruth 1: 1; 4: 17). What did David look like? We are informed by four physical descriptions from the Bible.

Song of Solomon 5: 10 (KJV)

''My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand''

The Hebrew for white here is tsach (tsakh). Strong's Hebrew Dictionary # 6703 tsach from tsachach, i.e bright...white, # 6705 tsachach – to glare ie. dazzling white. The word for ruddy (red) is Adom or Adomi (#119 - from ''aw-dawm'' meaning to show blood in the face i.e flush or turn rosy). Accordingly here then, David was considered to be white skinned and rosy/ruddy.

Two following quotes from I Samuel repeat similarly what is stated above.

I Samuel 16: 12 (KJV):

''Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance''

I Samuel 17: 42 (KJV):

''...for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.''

The final physical description describes his hair and head, Song of Solomon 5: 11 (KJV):

''His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.''

His head is described ''as'' or ''like'' (in other translations) gold, meaning his crown. This is the literal translation, since we are informed in the Bible King David wore a gold crown. However we are also informed his hair was black in this verse. The translation for ''bushy'' is also quite disputable, since the original Hebrew word, comes more closely to ''wavy''. But it seems clear from these quotes, and is undispitable that King David was white-rosy skinned and black haired.

Note: BBE, among a few other minority Bible translations wrongly translated Adom/Adomi in Song of Solomon 5: 10 as well as in Samuel, as ''red haired''. This obviously majorly contradicts Song of Solomon 5: 11 which describes David's hair as ''black and a raven''. David was not a redhead, but he was certianly white skinned and ''ruddy''. The latter is easily explained in relation to white skin (Chambers Concise Dictionary, 1988, p. 932):

"Ruddy: red; reddish; of the colour of healthy skin in white-skinned peoples"

Sarah

The wife of Abraham, Sarah, who gave birth to Isaac, is described in the Bible (Hebrew) as &#1497;&#1464;&#1508;&#1462;&#1492; transliteration: ''Yapheh'' (pronounced: yaw-feh) meaning ''fair''. Strong's Hebrew Dictionary #3303 translates Yapheh as:

''beautiful, beauty, comely, fairest''

The root of this word is from ''Yaphah'', according to Strong's Hebrew Dictionary #3302 which means ''to be bright'', ''to be bright in countanance''. ''to be bright skinned''.

Yapheh appears three times in Genesis when describing Sarah (Genesis 12: 11; 24: 16; 26: 7) which relates in description to her colour of skin, and this is made very clear especially in Genesis 24: 16 (KJV) - ''And the damsel was very fair (Yapheh) to look upon''.

The Bible alone then is clear that Sarah had a bright, light or fair coloured skin, not dark. Anyone who doubts this, can also check Rabbinic sources and various Apocrypha which also describes Sarah's skin as white or bright coloured. I will now show a few of such sources.

1QapGen or Genesis Apocryphon, Column XX, from the Dead Sea Scrolls, describes Sarah as follows (translation by Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Genesis Apocryphon of Quaman Cave I, 2nd ed. Rome, 1971 p. 63):

''During the party, the Egyptians must have seen Saraii, and on their return they praised her to the king, saying "How beautiful is her face! How fine are the hairs of her head! How lovely are ho eyes! How desirable her nose and all the radiance of her countenance. How fair are her breasts and how beautiful all her whiteness! How pleasing are her arms and how perfect her hands, and how desirable all the appearance of ho hands! How fair are her palms and how long and slender are her fingers! How comely are her feet, how perfect ho thighs! No virgin or bride led into the marriage chamber is more beautiful than she; she is fairer than all other women Truly, her beauty is greater than theirs Yet together with all this grace she possesses abundant wisdom, so that whatever she does is perfect."

Take note of the mention of her ''whiteness'' and repeated fairness of hands and feet. Rabbinic sources also repeat note of Sarah's whiteness. In one Rabbinic source collected by Gilbert Genebrard in his Chronographiae libri IV (compiled in 1580), Sarah is described as light skinned:

''hivhiqaq eres misrayim me’orah''

translated:

''[Sarah’s] light skin brightened Egypt''

Abraham

Is not physically described in detail in the Bible, however since his descendants and relatives are, it can easily be concluded he was light skinned. Based on the fact Sarah was his part-relation, and she is described as fair, bright or white of skin (as detailed above) in various sources, Abraham then must of had the same complexion as her. Others have come exactly to this conclusion, Pastor Ted R. Weiland wrote (God's Covenant People, 1995, p. 340):

"Unfortunately as far as is known, no description of Abraham appears in the Dead Sea scrolls, but as Sarah's description is that of her racial attributes, one can only conclude that Abraham [being a relative of Sarah, see Gen 20:12] would be identical"

Esau

The twin-brother of Jacob, later renamed Israel (Genesis 32: 28). Esau traded his birthright. We are provided a physical description of Esau in Genesis 25: 25 (KJV):

''And the first came out red (Adomi), all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau''

The Hebrew word for red here is &#1488;&#1463;&#1491;&#1456;&#1502;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1460;&#1497; - Admoni (meaning exactly red or ruddy). Esau was therefore believed to be red or reddish skinned. A confusion on this translation has led many to believe Esau was a redhead, which in not the case with this passage. His redness is only compared to a ''hairy garment''. According to this passage Esau was red skinned not red haired. Interestingly the early Jewish historian Josephus (Antiquities, VI. 164) changed red for yellow or yellowish (xanthos) because red was apparently associated by some Jews as a sign of evil. Note though, that Josephus followed the correct translation and did not believe Esau was a redhead only red skinned, but he swapped his skin colour for yellow because of his superstition.

Note: In Genesis 27: 11, Esau is related to being hairy (while his brother as ''smooth''). Though we are not told what colour his hair is. It could have been red. But guessing, really is not Biblical. So we will leave it at only the possibility that he was red haired, while that he certianly was reddish skinned.

Joseph

The eleventh son of Jacob. Not physically described in great detail in the Bible but there are several brief descriptions of Joseph in the Babylonian Talmud. For example he is described as having a ''rose'' (pink/red) coloured face (Tractate Sotah 36a):

''[Joseph's] face was like a rose.''

He is also described as physically and racially resembling a ''Germani'' (Genesis Rabah 86:3) meaning very light of skin (as already discussed above).

Note: In Genesis 42: 7-8 and 43: 32-33 Joseph is confused for an egyptian, and there is also a language barrier described. Nothing though here is told of his skin. Many have misinterpretated this passage, and from it tried to either claim the egyptians were dark skinned or the Israelites were dark skinned from it. Joseph was simply confused for an egyptian because of the clothes he wore and the different language he spoke not his skin complexion (this is even confirmed in a later verse, 42: 23).

Laban

Laban &#1500;&#1464;&#1489;&#1464;&#1503; was a distant relative of Abraham and the father in law of Jacob. He is described as a ''Syrian'' (Genesis 31: 20), and his name translates literally as ''white'' (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, #3835; 3836 as already cited earlier). His name was derived from the fact he was a ''white Syrian'', a name which appears in numerous ancient writings. The white Syrians (Greek: Leuco-Syrians) according to ancient geographer Strabo (Geographica, XII. 3. 9) derived their name from the fact they kept their skin pale white and not ''burnt'' (sunburnt/tanned):

''The boundary of the Paphlagonians to the east is the river Halys, which flows from the south between the Syrians and the Paphlagonians; and according to Herodotus, (who means Cappadocians, when he is speaking of Syrians,) discharges itself into the Euxine Sea. Even at present they are called Leuco-Syrians, (or White Syrians,) while those without the Taurus are called Syrians. In comparison with the people within the Taurus, the latter have a burnt complexion; but the former, not having it, received the appellation of Leuco- Syrians (or White Syrians).''

It is clear therefore then, that Laban was a ''Leuco-Syrian'', who had very pale white skin.

Leah

Daughter of Laban, and a wife of Jacob. She is described in Genesis 29: 17 (KJV):

''Leah was tender eyed; but Rachel was beautiful and well favored''

The Hebrew word translated as tender here, is Rakkot, plural form of Rak. Strong's Hebrew Dictionary # 7390:

''tender, delicate, soft''

Some translations and commentaries say that it may have meant light coloured eyes, probably blue. As early as the 12th century Jewish Medieval commentators had added Leah was blue eyed. Rashbam (1085 -1158) for example noted on Genesis 29: 17:

''Dark eyes are not tender (Rakkot) like light-colored ones''

The commentaries of Robert Jamieson, A.R. Fausset & David Brown, originally published in 1871 as Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary noted on Genesis 29: 17:

''Leah tender-eyed-that is, soft blue eyes''

It can be then concluded that Leah was light eyed. We already know her father Laban was a pale white skinned Leuco-Syrian or ''white syrian'', so it would make sense Leah would of had related features such as light coloured eyes.

Esther

The queen of the Persian king Ahasuerus, she was of the Israelite tribe of Benjamin (Esther 2:5). A physical description of her is provided (Esther 2: 7):

''He [Mordecai] brought up … Esther … and the maid was fair (Yapheh) and beautiful.''

This word “fair” Yapheh is the same word that was used when speaking of Sarah. It's etymological root meaning is “to be bright” and is the only place in all the book of Esther where this word is used. She thus had a “bright” skin, meaning not a dark complexion.

Who are modern Jews?

The current people we know as Jews today, are a result of a mongrelisation at Babylon in the 6th century BC. The phenotype of the Jew changed because of simple racial admixture at Babylon. Historical evidences support this fact, that the Middle-east by this stage was a melting pot. Sources from later periods also seem to confirm that modern Jews knew they were the product of a mongrelisation, hence why Jewish author Joseph ben Nathan in the 13th century wrote:

‘‘We are from a pure white seed, and our faces are dark''

And another:
''We Jews come from a pure, white source, and so our faces are black''

Many Jews indeed have declared and accepted they are mongrels, and are not pure descendants from the tribe of Judah. This is a historical fact and well documented.

Conclusion

Our conclusion is therefore simply that modern Jews, are not pure descendants of the tribe of Judah. Historical and Biblical evidence has proven the Israelites and Judahites of the Bible, differ to the physiognomy of the Jew as portrayed and detailed in the Talmud and other Rabbinic Sources. Though these works, also acknowledge that earlier ancestors were of a pure type racially, i.e Joseph is described as a Germani (very light skinned).

As to who the modern descendants of Israel are today? Just who are those people with pure white skins, light eyes and blonde, red and brown hairs? I wonder...

Physical appearance of Jesus


The true physical appearance of Jesus, with analysed Bible passages and descriptions from other sources.

Physical descriptions of Jesus in the Bible

We must firstly note that the physical description of Jesus in the Book of Revelation, is of Jesus in ''Heavenly form'' and is from a vision (the entire nature of Revelation is outlined in 1: 1). This leads us to an immediate question, according to scripture what do people in Heaven look like?

We are told Angels in Heaven in both the Bible and apocrypha have a light countanance, meaning light skin or appearence (Matthew 28: 3 calls the &#953;&#948;&#949;&#945; = countanance of angels like &#945;&#963;&#964;&#961;&#945;&#960;&#951; = ''lightning''): ''...countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow'', this is also repeated in Revelation 10: 1-3 where an Angel is described as having a face like the sun (&#7973;&#955;&#953;&#959;&#962; = radiant/light), Angels are also described as wearing white garments which shone light (Luke 24: 4; John 20: 12; Matthew 28: 3; Revelation 15: 6). The entire appearence of an Angel, according to the Bible is therefore white, radiant or like ''lightning'', and this includes their skin complexion (&#953;&#948;&#949;&#945; = countanance, see Matthew 28: 3). In apocrypha it is also added, that many Angels also have light coloured eyes (2 Enoch).

However according to the Bible, people don't become Angels after death, Angels are not glorified Human beings, and the Bible makes clear distinctions between Angels and Humans in Heaven (Matthew 22: 30; Hebrews 12: 22-23). How then do Humans appear then in Heaven according to the Bible? We are told the most on this issue in 1 Corinthians, 15. Paul states Heavenly bodies will be different from the natural bodies of Humans, the latter are characterized by mortality (being susceptible to death), but Heavenly bodies will be characterized by immortality (not susceptible to death). They are then of a completely different form and substance, however they are still physical (Luke 24: 37-43) but have different powers (John 20: 19).

Our best clue to how people will appear in Heaven is in Philippians 3:21, which says in Heaven, the bodies of Humans will be conformed to Jesus' glorious body (this is also stated in 1 John 3: 2). So how is Jesus' physically described in the Bible? His Heavenly form is detailed in Revelation 1: 14, therefore in conclusion this passage details his appearance, so let's look at it.

Revelation 1: 13-16 (KJV)

''There was someone like the Son of Man among the lamp stands. He was wearing a robe that reached his feet. He wore a gold belt around his waist. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.''

We may first note, Revelation 1: 14 of this passage:

''His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire''

This appears in Greek as follows:

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Of interest is &#954;&#949;&#966;&#945;&#955;&#951; - kephale (kef-al-ay'): meaning the head, literally -- head. Strong's Hebrew Dictionary # 2776 defines kephale:

''the head, both of men and often of animals''

Without doubt or dispute, it is therefore clear in this passage Jesus' head (&#954;&#949;&#966;&#945;&#955;&#951 is described as white (Greek: &#955;&#949;&#965;&#954;&#945;&#953;, leukos).

We are also informed of the whiteness of his hair (&#964;&#961;&#953;&#967;&#949;&#962. Note though, that both head and hair is written seperately. Afrocentrics try to twist this passage to exclude the mention of Jesus' ''white head'' and only maintain focus on white hair. Of course, some negroes in old age have white hair (as do whites and other races), but negroes can't have ''white heads''. This passage is undesputable, and states Jesus' head (kephale) was white and his hair, not only his hair. Afrocentrics try to twist the mention of wool, to imply Jesus had some kind of afro. Yet Revelation 1: 14 does not say Jesus' hair was like wool, only the whiteness, nothing to do with hair texture.

We therefore simply conclude from Revelation 1: 14, that Jesus had a white head, meaning a white skinned face, and white hair. We also may note the mention of Jesus' eyes as a ''flame of fire'' (&#966;&#955;&#959;&#958;, &#960;&#965;&#961;&#959;&#962 meaning a light colour.

Revelation 1: 15:

''And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters''

This appears in Greek as follows:

''&#954;&#945;&#943; &#8001; &#960;&#959;&#973;&#962; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#972;&#962; &#8005;&#956;&#959;&#953;&#959;&#962; &#967;&#945;&#955;&#954;&#959;&#955;&#943;&#946;&#945;&#957;&#959;&#957; &#8033;&#962; &#7952;&#957; &#954;&#940;&#956;&#953;&#957;&#959;&#962; &#960;&#965;&#961;&#972;&#969; &#954;&#945;&#943; &#8001; &#966;&#969;&#957;&#942; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#972;&#962; &#8033;&#962; &#966;&#969;&#957;&#942; &#8021;&#948;&#969;&#961; &#960;&#959;&#955;&#973;&#962;''

Here the feet of Jesus are stated as being like brass. The Greek word translated as brass, is &#967;&#945;&#955;&#954;&#959;&#955;&#953;&#946;&#945;&#957;&#969; (chalkolibanon), Strong's Hebrew Dictionary #5474:

''Neuter of a compound of chalkos and libanos (in the implied mean of whiteness or brilliancy); burnished copper, an alloy of copper (or gold) and silver having a brilliant lustre -- fine brass.''

Chalkos/&#967;&#945;&#955;&#954;&#972;&#962; #5475: copper or bronze. We are therefore informed Jesus' feet were the colour of glowing fine brass (glowing/light since they are compared to a burning furnace) the colour of his feet were thus a radiant light brown-reddish colour. Afrocentrics of course latch onto this description, but as we have already proven Jesus' head was white skinned, so Jesus was not dark. Strong under #5474 understood chakolibanon in relation to implied ''whiteness' or brilliancy - which is the related context here, since the brass is related to a burning, light or glowing effect - certianly not the skin colour of a dark pigment, but a light colour.

In Revelation 1: 16 (KJV), we are provided with more evidence of Jesus' whiteness:

''And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.''

This appears in Greek as follows:

&#954;&#945;&#8054; &#7956;&#967;&#969;&#957; &#7952;&#957; &#964;&#8135; &#948;&#949;&#958;&#953;&#8119; &#967;&#949;&#953;&#961;&#8054; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#959;&#8166; &#7936;&#963;&#964;&#941;&#961;&#945;&#962; &#7953;&#960;&#964;&#8048; &#954;&#945;&#8054; &#7952;&#954; &#964;&#959;&#8166; &#963;&#964;&#972;&#956;&#945;&#964;&#959;&#962; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#959;&#8166; &#8165;&#959;&#956;&#966;&#945;&#943;&#945; &#948;&#943;&#963;&#964;&#959;&#956;&#959;&#962; &#8000;&#958;&#949;&#8150;&#945; &#7952;&#954;&#960;&#959;&#961;&#949;&#965;&#959;&#956;&#941;&#957;&#951; &#954;&#945;&#8054; &#7969; &#8004;&#968;&#953;&#962; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#959;&#8166; &#8033;&#962; &#8001; &#7973;&#955;&#953;&#959;&#962; &#966;&#945;&#943;&#957;&#949;&#953; &#7952;&#957; &#964;&#8135; &#948;&#965;&#957;&#940;&#956;&#949;&#953; &#945;&#8016;&#964;&#959;&#8166;.

&#7973;&#955;&#953;&#959;&#962; &#275;lios = sun
&#966;&#945;&#943;&#957;&#949;&#953; phainei = shining

Only does light skin shine, not dark. It is therefore easily to conclude that Revelation 1: 13-16 which describes Jesus physically, describes Jesus' white skinned head, white hair and radiant/glowing feet and a overall light shining countanance. In Matthew 17: 1-2 we are also provided with something similar:

''After six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.''

Again here Jesus is related and described as light/shining, such descriptions are only attributle to pale white skin, since dark skin does not shine or have anything radiant or light about it.

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Physical descriptions of Jesus from other sources

In the early 1st century AD Christian text Shepherd of Hermas (IX. VI, XII) Jesus is described as tall, though his skin complexion or other physical attributes are not mentioned. The view of the Church fathers, and early Christian writers varied. Justin Martyr pointed to Isaiah 53 as evidence that Jesus was physically unattractive:

“He has no form nor glory, nor beauty when we beheld him, but his appearance was without honor and inferior to that of the sons of men.”

At the same time, others in opposition, such as John Chysostom cited the portrayal of God in Psalm 45 as testimony that Jesus was the “most handsome of men” (Homilies on the Psalms, 44. 3). St. Augustine suggested that everyone has a different mental image of Jesus, but agreed he only could of had one (On the Trinity, 8. 7):

“The physical face of the Lord is pictured with infinite variety by countless imaginations, though whatever it was like He certainly had only one. Nor as regards the faith we have in the Lord Jesus Christ it is in the least relevant to salvation what our imaginations picture Him like…What does matter is that we think of Him as man.”

In a letter to the Emperor Theophilus attributed to John of Damascus (Patrologia Graeca , xcv. 349), we find an early physical appearence of Jesus, which states Jesus had beautiful light coloured eyes, a prominent nose, and a ''wheat-coloured complexion'' meaning a somewhat intermediate brownish. Nicephorus Callistus, who introduced his description of the picture of Christ, wrote (Patrologia Graeca , cxlv. 748):

''... the healthful appearance, with the stature, the brown hair which was not very thick but somewhat curling, the black brows which were not fully arched, the sea-blue eyes shading into brown, the beautiful glance, the prominent nose, but brown beard of moderate length, and the long hair which had not been cut since childhood, the neck slightly bent, and the olive and somewhat ruddy complexion of the oval face.''

Nicephorus however, was not the first to state the eye colour of Jesus was blue or bluish. For there exists a pseudo-historical source, a letter from the Consul Publius Lentulus of Judea to Caesar Tiberius in the early 1st century AD:

''He calls back the dead from the graves and heals all sorts of diseases with a word or touch. He is a tall man, well-shaped, and of an amiable and reverend aspect; his hair of a color that can hardly be matched, falling into graceful curls, waving about and very agreeable crouching upon his shoulders, parted on the crown of the head, running as a stream to the front after fashion of the Nazarites. His forehead high, large and imposing; his cheeks without spot or wrinkle, beautiful with a lovely red; his nose and mouth formed with exquisite symmetry; his beard, and of a color suitable to his hair, reaching below his chin and parted in the middle like a fork; his eyes bright blue, clear and serene. Look innocent, dignified, manly and mature. In proportion of body most perfect, and captivating; his arms and hands delectable to behold.''

A slightly different version exists from a collection of manuscripts from Lord Kelly:

''He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarites. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick.''

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We may also note another pseudo-historical source, copies of the following letter appear in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C (catalog card number # 56-10075), entitled a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar. This is a reprinting of an apparent letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus.

''A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the Jews -- not the poor but the rich and powerful.''

These sources seem to be in agreement that the colour of Jesus' hair was not dark, but was either blonde or a chestnut colour (reddish) and that he was light skinned and light blue (or grey) eyed. Furthermore another pseudo-historical source describes Jesus' hair as blonde, this being the Archko Volume. In a chapter entitled "Gamaliel's Interview" it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:

"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This Jew [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before..."

- Source: The Archko Volume, translated by Drs. McIntosh and Twyman of the Antiquarian Lodge, Genoa, Italy, from manuscripts in Constantinople and the records of the Senatorial Docket taken from the Vatican of Rome (1896) p. 92-93.

Isidore of Pelusium writing in the early 5th century described Jesus as fair or white skinned having referred to the phrase, "Thou art fairer than the children of men" in Psalms xlv. 2. Epiphanius Monachus writing in the 8th century AD wrote Jesus was six feet tall and golden haired with ''a skin like David's''. St. Nicodemos the Hagiorite famously remarked:

''Think of those most pure eyes of Jesus, so calm, so sweet; the straightness of His nose; the somewhat chestnut-colored and at the same time golden hair and beard of His''

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In Islamic Hadith we also find Jesus' described as reddish, or whitish skinned:

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 607:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
''Allah's Apostle said, "On the night of my Ascension to Heaven, I saw (the prophet) Moses who was a thin person with lank hair, looking like one of the men of the tribe of Shanua; and I saw Jesus who was of average height with red face as if he had just come out of a bathroom.''

Volume 9, Book 87, Number 128:
narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
''Allah's Apostle said, "I saw myself (in a dream) near the Ka'ba last night, and I saw a man with whitish red complexion, the best you may see amongst men of that complexion having long hair reaching his earlobes which was the best hair of its sort, and he had combed his hair and water was dropping from it, and he was performing the Tawaf around the Ka'ba while he was leaning on two men or on the shoulders of two men. I asked, 'Who is this man?' Somebody replied, '(He is) Messiah, son of Mary.' Then I saw another man with very curly hair, blind in the right eye which looked like a protruding out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' Somebody replied, '(He is) Messiah, Ad-Dajjal (anti christ).''

Volume 9, Book 88, Number 242:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
''Allah's Apostle said. "While I was sleeping, I saw myself (in a dream) performing Tawaf around the Ka'ba. Behold, I saw a reddish-white(after-bathroom face) man with lank hair, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, "Who is this?' They replied, 'The son of Mary.' Then I turned my face to see another man with a huge body, red complexion and curly hair and blind in one eye. His eye looked like a protruding out grape. They said (to me), He is Ad-Dajjal." The Prophet added, "The man he resembled most is Ibn Qatan, a man from the tribe of Khuza'a. "

Conclusion

The Bible and most historical sources cited, seem to agree that Jesus was certianly not dark skinned, but white (while a minority of sources maintain his complexion as ''reddish'', ruddy or ''wheatish'', a light brown). His hair is described in the Bible as white, but in other sources as blonde or golden (and in a minority of others as chestnut/reddish), it is therefore possible his hair colour was platinum-blonde, a very fair white-blonde colour only found amongst a minority of Northern Europeans. Perhaps his beard was red, chestnut or another colour. His eyes are described in the scripture as light and flame-like, and in historical sources as also light, it is therefore probable Jesus' eye colour was either blue or gray.


Interesting Links on ethnological connections between Europeans and ancient Israelites:

The Ancient Israelites were Nordic:

Ethnology

The Israelite-Trojan Origin of European Royalty:

The Trojan Origins of European Royalty!

Israelite Ethnology:

The Physical Anthropology of Israelite Peoples

Blonde and redhead Israelites:

The Christian White Nationalist Alliance - Israelite Athropology

(Note i don't support the politics of this website, but it anthropology page is very good on this topic)




Ancient Sumerian Statues with blue eyes



Blue Eyes - Nordic trait



Ancient painting of Israelite, note Blue eyes.

dana b said:

..........THE THREE CULTURES OF EUROPE ARE PREDICTED IN EXODUS....

The Bible's second book "Exodus" describes not only one exodus but two. Although the original description is about the ancient 12 tribes of Israel preparing and leaving Egypt, a second reading is also here described. Or else why would the three cultures of Europe of Latino, Germanic and Slavic be recognizable in these same verses?

...................................EXODUS CHAPTER ONE..............................

1. Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

2. Reuben, Simeon, Levi and Judah.

3. Issachar, Zebulun and Benjamin.

4. Dan and Naphtali, Gad and Asher.

5. And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls; for Joseph was in Egypt already.

....VERSE 2...........................VERSE 3.........................VERSE 4

....LATIN..............................GERMANIC.......................SLAVIC....

...Reuben..............................Issachar.........................Dan....
...Simeon..............................Zebulun..........................Naphtali
....Levi.................................Benjamin.........................Gad
...............................................................................Asher
..Judah of Leah

Notice how in verse 2 are the Catholic Latin tribes of Italy, Spain and France. In the second column verse 3 has all Gemanic names. These are the southern Bavarian and Austrian Catholic cultures and then the northern sea-going Germanic Catholics. The last name in this column is Benjanim which is also a Germanic tribe but gone Protestant.

In the third column are the Slavic tribes both Orthodox, Protestant and Catholics. All of the brothers listed above are in their birth orders, under their respective mothers and yet can be seen to represent the Latin, Germanic and Slavic European Christian peoples. These types of examples are not a coincidence to those that investigate them.

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How do you explain the scripture states the Israelites were meant to have a perpetual monarchy, yet most of those you listed have no monarchy. Most european monarchs abdicated, what's left is less than ten across Europe, including Britain and the Nordic countries.

My belief is that only UK and the Nordic nations are Israel, not the whole of europe.

GERMANY = ASSYRIA (not israel)

dana b said:

My understanding of history is that the Kings and Queens for England and Russian were taken from Hanover, Germany. If these Germans are Assyrians then so was Queen Victoria and Czar Nicolos of Russia.

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Yes, there was some mixing of royalty across Europe. However this was before the abdication of Wilhlem II in 1918.

We are told the Israelites were to have a perpetual Monarchy, Germany lost it's monarchy in 1918, therefore they are not Israel.

If Gemany is a re-generated Assyria, then why did they become such a Christian country for the last 1000 years and more? Assyrians did not become Christians, did they?

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I don't believe in 're-generation', I'm saying that the Germans are literal descendants from the Assyrians.

Evidence:

Ancient German records claim that their oldest city, Trier, was founded by a son of Ninus, an Assyrian:

"The inhabitants of Trier maintain that their city is the oldest in all Europe," writes Josef K. L. Bihl in his textbook "In deutschen Landen," page 69. "Trier was founded," he continues, "by Trebeta, a son of the famous Assyrian King Ninus.''

Jerome, who lived at the time when the Indo-Germanic tribes were invading Europe, gives the answer: "For 'Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them'"! (Letter 123, § 16, quoted from Psalm 83:8; from "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers".)

Only 300 years before Jerome, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder declared the "Assyriani" -- the Assyrians, were dwelling north of the Black Sea ("Natural History", IV, § 12, page 183). But the Assyrians did not remain there! They are not there today! Of course not, they migrated into Central Europe where the Germans live today!"

More Germany-Assyria Connections:​

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Resurgent Germany: A Fourth Reich? - by Douglas S. Winnail

A fourth Reich? - Living Church of God: Study Topic

Currently working on Germany and Biblical prophecy, i will show some scipture on this topic later.

To understand who the re-generated tribes of European Christian Isreal really are you must study until you are 40 and then, only if you really year for truth may you possible be granted the vision. Most fall by the wayside of sleazy self purpose organizations. You should study the Bible and history yourself and make your own judgments. Only they will come from God.

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I have no idea what you keept talking about 're-generation'...

The tribes of Israel, are a real alive people. You talk of it as if it as a form of spiritualism.

dana b said:

To understand who the re-generated tribes of European Christian Isreal really are you must study until you are 40 and then, only if you really year for truth may you possible be granted the vision. Most fall by the wayside of sleazy self purpose organizations.

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I respect your personal beliefs, however as i stated your beliefs are not Christian.

Your website is occultist/dabbling in spirtualism, and esoteric studies. Half of what you believe is actually condemned in Leviticus. As a Biblical literalist, i am not interested in modern 'mystic' interprtations of the Bible, i'm interested in the Bible actually says - literally.