son looks at evil websites

I know this won't help much, but I am going to post this to ease your mind somewhat about someone busting in any second to arrest your husband or son. I went to that website and read some stuff about it online. It is not child inappropriate contentography on the website, it is Japanese anime inappropriate content, which is not illegal, regardless of the revolting nature of the content on the site.

Based on what I've heard, it is not uncommon for youngsters to be into this sort of inappropriate content. Obviously you have your own feelings about whether it is right or not, but I would not be afraid of your son, unless you have other reasons to be.

I know it's not illegal because there is a fairly involved wikipedia article about 4chan, which references several mainstream media sources and there is no indication anything on the site is illegal. What I was getting at in my last post was that the cartoons may look like children to you, but that isn't what they are, it's just the way that genre of cartoons is drawn. Additionally, even if you happened to see actual cartoons of child inappropriate contentography, that wouldn't be illegal either. It is the sexual abuse of children that makes inappropriate content illegal, not the images per say. I hate to get this detailed, but I think it is an inportant distinction to make, as to what your son is actually looking at online.

I would imagine your son likes the Japanese anime genre and his liking for that style translated to inappropriate content for him.

jonasmom said:

Hi.

I have been reading these sites for a long time but I never posted anything I guess because Im shy. But today I cant stop crying because of what i saw.

I picked up the phone and heard my son and his friends talking about a homepage called four chan and saying extremly degrading things about black people and women. I know that it is wrong to listen to a phone conversation but he has been so detached lately that I need to know what is wrong.

So my friend at work taught me how to look in his cookies and bookmark history on the computer. I guess he is some kind of internet programmer in his spare time. What I found there was absolutely terrible. full of filth and inappropriate contentography and atheism. I know that I shouldn't spy and my husband doesn't know that I did this.

my son has a homepage called atheism reddit where he writes atheist things with his friends again our Lord. in his bookmarks history he has links to a site called four chan. PLEASE DO NOT GO TO THIS HOMEPAGE IT IS TERRIBLE!!! This homepage has nothing but the worst inappropriate contentagraphy i have ever seen and the worst things i have ever read. There are cartoons of children engaging in terrible acts and other kinds of things like that. now i am afraid that the police are going to come and arrest my husband because he would probably get the blame for looking at child inappropriate contentography.

So now I don't know what to do. I keep praying and crying. My husband is away on business and I amm afraid off my 17 year old son because I keep thinking of him as an someone who looks at cartoons of child inappropriate contentagraphy and is an atheist. he has never threatened me or even told me about his confusion. I could have helped him because i was very confused when I was his age but that did NOT mean i looked at child inappropriate contentography and atheism homepages.

what can i possibly do? What did I do wrong? We go to church and I talk to him all the time about his life and plans. But lately he has been so strange and now there is this. Please help me because I am afraid to tell my husband who sometimes overreacts and sometimes underreacts --- either way I don't think that is good.

Please help me somebody. have you ever heard of these homepages or anything about them? Is it wrong to look in the bookmark history?

Thank you and God bless.

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There is NOTHING wrong with snooping. That is your child, your responsibility and whatever you have to do to keep your household under control, you do it! Honey, don't you feel bad at all. It IS your business. The problem today is that parents don't want to deal with their kids, they don't want the hastle. And if a child gets upset for you snooping, so what! Your house, your business. It's sounds like there are some very spiritual things going on with your son. I would take authority over that garbage in Jesus Name! Don't beat yourself up, you just ask God what steps need to be taken and let HIM guide you. God has the final answer. I am praying for you and your family right now!

Depends on the personality and maturity of your son but obviously if he is taking the content of that website into real world, then you should consult a psychiatrist.

Consult a professional as soon as possible.

I don't know if this helps you much, but I visit 4chan and I'm relatively normal ... relatively My husband and I are both very familiar with the site. We're not disturbed individuals. We're just normal.

We leave what we see on the internet, on the internet. We don't take it away with us into the real world. I won't sit here and try to explain the reasons for our fascination with the site -- it wouldn't compute to anyone here I doubt. I obviously don't talk much about that kind of site (which I agree no one here should go off and visit -- it would be too disturbing for a lot of people here I'd imagine, though it doesn't phase me much at all, meh), and that's because it's inappropriate for this website, and also because there's really no one here save for a few people (I can think of a couple of people on CF that I also know view that website) would really understand the fascination with it.

The one and only reason I'm posting here, is to tell you that it's not the end of the world. I know a lot of completely normal people -- I'm talking business professionals in suits and ties that work 9 to 5 and go off on business trips and come home to their lovely wife and children -- who browse sites such as this.

You're over-reacting. He's not a pedophile, he's not a monster, he's not evil, and neither am I. He's just normal, even if it's not your definition of normal I'm afraid.

As far as the atheism stuff... well, some people simply lose their faith as they grow up. *shrugs* I was the opposite, I grew up atheist / agnostic and somehow wandered into Christianity as an adult, funny that. All of my other friends though, grew up Christian and wandered away into atheism. My husband grew up Christian but became Agnostic.

Anyway, the two things are completely unrelated...

If your son is taking the things he's viewing on the net into the real world with him, then yeah that's a problem. But you really need to stop freaking out, because it's not as bad as you think. It's really not.

Your son is growing up. Unfortunately sometimes when kids grow up, they don't exactly turn into the adults their parents had forseen. Your son is 17 years old, only 10 years younger than me. I remember when I was 17 very clearly as if it were yesterday. That child is going to grow up to be his own man, whether you agree with what he becomes or not. You'll need to make your peace with that one day or another.

Sorry if this was unhelpful... there's not much I can say except that very normal people do what your son is doing. He's not horribly wrong or evil. He's just human. Dont forget to treat him like that.

The human brain is a funny thing. People are fascinated by vastly different things...

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that site is not any good, it is all stupid stuff.. Most people who post on there POST LIES and post mean things about people just for the "LOL of it" also people vent about people they don't like in a very immature way.

I, Falco, 17 years old, am familliar with 4chan too. Just as beyondAshes, I'm a normal person, still having my eductation. I have never been involved in any crime, I'm a hard working person. I don't go to 4chan really often as I'm not interested in most of the things posted on there.

I went to a catholic primary school(I had to read from the bible) and my current school is catholic in theory(you can have any religion, I don't have to read from the bible). But since a few years I'm an atheist. This is not due to that site I was already atheist before I knew that site.

You really don't have to worry about your son UNLESS your son starts shouting memes at inappropriate moments. A meme is often a catchphrase(it always is when you can say it out loud), the memes that come from 4chan are often rude. An example of a rude meme is "<N word> stole my bike". This is very offensive to a lot of people and should therefore not be used in public. If he uses such phrases with his friends they will most likely laugh. That is because it's considered a "funny joke". In order to be able to laugh about such a joke you need to know 4chan's way of thinking and the context of the meme.

Of course if he uses such "memes" in public or to the wrong people, this would be very inappropriate and it would be considered extremely rude. That's the point where you have to step in and take action.
But that will most likely not happen. Someone who is familliar enough with 4chan knows that you can't just use memes when in presence of people who are not familliar with 4chan.


I also doubt the JonasMom will read this thread. her last post was in August.

Looking up inappropriate contentography is completely normal for someone of my age. Just make sure that he does it secretly so you can't get in his room while he's watching.

Might you ever walk in his room while he's watching it will NOT be your fault but his.

FPtje said:

Looking up inappropriate contentography is completely normal for someone of my age. Just make sure that he does it secretly so you can't get in his room while he's watching.

Might you ever walk in his room while he's watching it will NOT be your fault but his.

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This is true. inappropriate contentography won't be the death of him. Is it good for him to be watching? Not at all, but as a teenager he's naturally curious (all the hormones don't help either) and it can't be helped too much.

BeyondAshes said:

If your son is taking the things he's viewing on the net into the real world with him, then yeah that's a problem. But you really need to stop freaking out, because it's not as bad as you think. It's really not.

Your son is growing up. Unfortunately sometimes when kids grow up, they don't exactly turn into the adults their parents had forseen. Your son is 17 years old, only 10 years younger than me. I remember when I was 17 very clearly as if it were yesterday. That child is going to grow up to be his own man, whether you agree with what he becomes or not. You'll need to make your peace with that one day or another.

He's just human. Don't forget to treat him like that.

The human brain is a funny thing. People are fascinated by vastly different things...

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This hits the nail on the head. Your son is growing up, he's a teenager, and teenagers like to be independent. That is the sole reason for the teenage years, to help them become individual human beings (oftentimes not at all a carbon copy of their parents).

The important thing is to keep an open dialogue with him and continue to show him how much you love him.

Why not talk to him. Look at the pages together. Discuss them. Let him know your views and why. AND vice versa. Don't flame him with your replies. Find out what he is thinking. Good, sensible information will help him form his own views. Some adult input can help him with that.

John
NZ

I wont let my child get on internet until he/she moves out my home

What values will he internalise and what self regulating discriminations will your child learn from that level of control?

John
NZ

Amine is a real addiction for a lot of youths. The re-enactments carried out in their clothing, conversations, and actions in school all reflect the influence. Each generation seems to choose its own genre of uniqueness to give themselves an identity that expresses their rebellious hearts. Pray that the truth breaks through to their heart and wins them to the Will of the Lord.

my dear sister in Christ, who provides the computer and all that is involved in it? who provides a roof over his head? Who feeds him? Whose room is he using (seriously)...is it in your house? Who is responsible for him while he lives under your roof?

You have every right to see EXACTLY what he participates in. What he IS seeing and participating in is poisoning his mind, heart, and spirit to the utmost. YOU are the parent. Speak to those who are not afraid to speak out in truth. We should NEVER fear our children or hand over rights to them, under our own roofs, that WE provide for them, to use in an evil manner. This is evil. Get to, find Godly counsel. Dr Kevin Leman has written on this very thing....on young children, middle school age children, and teen children. We NEVER hand the reins of our authority as parents, to these children we have given birth to. Your son has NO RIGHT to have a secret life of evil under your own roof. He has NO rights to privacy in this manner. Pray to the God Who grants us wisdom, discernment, and the strength and courage to do what is right.

In the meantime look up Kevin Leman. He is right on in His wisdom about parenting, especially in these harrowing situations.

Calm down. Its good that he's getting all this out of his system. I know lots of people who were raised in a completely sterile moral environment and now have many unresolved issues. Truth is that most teens look at inappropriate content, and like most, he'll grow out of it. 4Chan is an imageboard, and the originator of almost all internet memes (along with ytmnd) such as rickrolling, epic fail, lolcatz, project chanology, etc. If he is a computer programmer then he probably sees many of these memes and is interested in their origin. If he has a strong heart and will, 4chan won't really effect him that much. You know what 4chans stated motive is?

for the evulz

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; If anything, if your son frequents that site a lot, then at the least he is a member of the large and prevalent computer culture, at worst he is an internet troll; not the spawn of evil.

btw visionary: the only people I know or have seen that re-enact anime are self-proclaimed geeks and cosplayers. They are not a representative of the majority of modern youth culture, and if anything, anime is an expensive hobby, not an addiction for most cosplayers.

It is big amid the tweens and teens that my child is around. From the chat rooms, to the TV to the my space pic choices, it all reflects in their conversations, their attitudes, and in their subculture. You may not think it is serious, until you are dealing with this issue on a parent to child .. one on one.. then you might be willing to take a second look. It is more subliminal in its messages, and more influential than you first thought.

Well, I realize that Anime is influencial in all aspects of culture nowadays (movies, music), but what specific attitudes or messages do you mean? I understand that especially on the internet a simple innocent search for anime or manga can very easily lead to anime inappropriate content (hentai) but thats not really a mesage but a matter of sublimation (is that the right word?). I also understand that anime is really expensive and costly, but that is again not a matter of message. I don't wish to sound crass or disputeful, but I just want a clarification of what specific messages or 'morals' you don't agree with from anime.

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