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David Ben Yosef

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Spirit Jews are not Physical Jews unless they were born physically Jewish. Physical Jews are not Spirit Jews unless they are born again believers in the Jewish Messiah Jesus.
Wow, that's clear as mud. Sounds like Platonic philosophy. ^_^
 
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I'm wondering how many Messianics realize that Sha'ul is addressing ethnic Jews in Romans chaper 2, when he says "But if you are called by the name Yehudi (Jew) and rely on the Torah and boast in Hashem?" He's obviously talking about Jews who do not keep covenant with HaShem when he goes on to say "He is not a Jew who is one outwardly." You would think their first clue would be when he says "Circumcision has its value if you keep the Torah; but if you go on breaking the Torah, you are no more circumcised than the uncircumcised."

This isn't rocket science. NOWHERE in that passage does Sha'ul say Gentiles become "spiritual Jews." That's ludacris! ^_^
 
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I'm wondering how many Messianics realize that Sha'ul is addressing ethnic Jews in Romans chaper 2, when he says "But if you are called by the name Yehudi (Jew) and rely on the Torah and boast in Hashem?" He's obviously talking about Jews who do not keep covenant with HaShem when he goes on to say "He is not a Jew who is one outwardly." You would think their first clue would be when he says "Circumcision has its value if you keep the Torah; but if you go on breaking the Torah, you are no more circumcised than the uncircumcised."

This isn't rocket science. NOWHERE in that passage does Sha'ul say Gentiles become "spiritual Jews." That's ludacris! ^_^
It's good to see someone around here is still thinking clearly. Nice to read your post, David Ben Yosef.
 
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