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that's the way i feel sometimes too...but to think about giving up on God scares me and I get anxious when the thought even crosses my mind---but i also get anxious whenever i hear christian things because im afraid of having bad thoughts or doing something blasphemous. the only thing i can tell you is to keep praying for strength and just hang in there.

your like me..im in that place big time..dont care about christianity or God.actually mostly hate God..lol the whole christian thing..well i know I do...i had a very huge hurtful experience with Christianity..etc false doctrine and alot more..left me confused and wounded..

but I have OCD..which has hurt me alot too

you gotta realize..Gods bigger then that..He is not mad at you..there is no circumstance nothing you can say or do.how you feel..how you are..that His love will not shine through

Jesus paid the price.for all of your sins..words.thoughts..circumstances..all of your sin.past present and future..all paid..no more punishment for you..theres nothing you can do..your saved

Ive spoken things..alot....yet here I am.ive spoken things ..blasphemous things..and I meant them..yet here I am..

God loves you

the question is do you care ..if you care about have no desire then it is possible to have one for him ....its only when you stop caring that you dont care thats the danger but then again you would not even know it ..

the point is your heart is softer than you might think

only you would know that you really care. about anything. Do you not care about Church? Is it because of some people and the way they treat you?

Do you not care about Jesus? Do you really know Him? Have you read His stories? Im of the opinion that if you really knew about Him you just couldnt turn away.

If the bible you have is difficult for you there are others. Online too. free. Biblegateway.com for one. It has a lot of different translations. the NLT is very easy to read.

humble..you are unforgivablely FORGIVEN!

if Jesus paid the price for all sin..for all time..what one was left out?

forgiven..for all time..thers nothning you can do...to stop God loving you..nothing you can say..or do..nothing..nor circumstance..or trial..will keep Gods love away from you

forgiven

Because you are concerned and even worried about this indicates, to me at least, that you do care about your relationship with God. You may not FEEL any love toward Him (I don't either), but that doesn't mean that you don't care or that you are not a Christian. When you have OCD, especially OCD with spiritual issues, it is difficult to have the same type of relationship with God that non-OCD Christians have. I believe, however, that God understands this and does not condemn us for it. I don't read my Bible as much as I used to, and, at least for now, I've given up on prayer because of OCD issues, but I still consider myself a Christian and could never walk away from God. As scripture indicates,"He will never leave or forsake us". Try to take comfort in that -- it is about Him, not us. I'm currently reading a very good book: The Misunderstood God by Darin Hufford. It can be found at Border's or Barnes and Noble. He also has a website -- free believers.

I know it's not easy, and I go back and forth too, but hang in there.

fashionista1

PS: No one is unforgiveable.

fashionista1

HumbleServant94 said:

fashionista1:
Every time I try to trust in Jesus to save me, it never seems to work. People say read your Bible or pray. But I barely seem to do it. Plus I am doubting whether or not I believe in God and His existence.

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I understand exactly what you mean ...


But about God's existence it cannot be proven ....if fact the way way we can know that God exists is by his revelation We know God exists because he came to us in the person of Jesus Christ who is God himself

I know what you mean too, I feel like I'm really unforgiveable. I dont know what to say to make you feel any better, other than I know EXACTLY how you feel.

I'm 17 and I've had religious OCD since I was 16 and as far back as I remember I've always counted things or re-touched things and other non-religious stuff. I think you can develope it at any age.

Well, I believe it runs in my family because my mom and my aunt both have a type of "regular" ocd but it can come on anytime it doesn't have to start any particular way.

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Well, I say I want to be a Christian, but my actions say otherwise. It's like I don't care about Christianity anymore. I also get uncomfortable when around things about God. What should I do?

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Ask the Lord to help you want to do what you know is right. He knows all about you, he wants to hear it from you. I went though this to an extent...I grew cold toward the Lord, but my heart kept telling me it was wrong, so I just told God howI felt and to please help me to do better. And he did.

I believe God's grace and mercy far surpass any doubts we have concerning his existence. He understands we have an illness that may prevent us from relating to Him as others without OCD do. As it says in the Psalms "He knows our frame" and He knew before we were even born that we would struggle with this illness. I don't think He holds it against us. If He did, where would grace and mercy come in? No one is perfect in their relationship with God. Even "regular" people go through dry periods in their faith journey. I don't read my bible and pray much either because I tend to obsess on whether or not I'm understanding everything perfectly, and this can be very frustrating. Because of this, I too felt I was unsaved. I shared this with my therapist, and he told me this was not the case (he is a Christian) and that God does understand and that this is where faith in His promises comes in. I'm hoping that someday I will be able to read my bible in a relaxed manner and not to have to worry about understanding everything perfectly. It's weird because I can read other Christian books, both fiction and non-fiction, and not worry about this. In fact I skim through much of my reading of this material and don't even think about my understanding everything in a perfect way.

As another person indicated, the fact that you WANT to believe shows that you belong to Him. Think of it as the person in the bible who said to Jesus: "Lord I believe, help my unbelief".

I hope this helps. I'm a lot older than most of you in this thread, and I've had OCD/scrupulosity since I was 13 years old. I know how awful it can be, but hang on to whatever little faith you have.

fashionista1 (Kathy)