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kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

"Militant atheists are intellectual trolls who are so blinded by their hatred that they can't see their own hypocrisy of being exactly what they claim to hate: intolerant. If anything, I pity them as I would for anyone who is so blinded and unhappy." - Anonymous

Of course but it's the Christians that buy their music and find their hatred entertaining that I don't get.

Sitswithamouse · Oct 24, 2009

smacarena said:
I'm pretty sure Jesus doesn't need my help defending himself against a bunch of metalhead trolls. I will say this, however, that unless they repent, they're in for one hell of a shock (pun very much intended) when Jesus returns.

Does being a metal head equate to being a sinner in your eyes.
What do you equate to being a metal head troll.?
Bon Jovi?
Metallica?

Any band or singer that does not praise Jesus.
Well we could go for Tina Turner.
Beach boys
Elvis
Mott the hoople

Spinal Tap.

There will always be those that will go against the norm and it is human nature to do so. We all change we all grow up. Some more than others.

We all write how we feel , we all use imagination that we borrow from history and legends. We all need to make sense of things and vampirism does just that.
The taking of souls, the sexual feelings of the neck being carressed and bitten. Don't forget in those times imagination and reality were thrust forth to show the reader what others knew about being provocative and how that ultimatley led to anothers downfall for lust and not love showed true in Bram stokers Dracula , remember Lucy , wrongly characterised for that period?.
over the years the imagination ,the human psyche, men and religions change our perception of the devil, God and all that is around us.
What was God 2000 years ago to us what is not now??? What is the sacrifice of Issac and not to us now.
Would anyone kill their child for God and do the apologists say it is okay now?.
This change and accounts will still go on changing.

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

smacarena said:
I'm pretty sure Jesus doesn't need my help defending himself against a bunch of metalhead trolls. I will say this, however, that unless they repent, they're in for one hell of a shock (pun very much intended) when Jesus returns.

However...you bet.

It's not the non Christians I'm talking to here. It's Christians on a Christian forum who are supporting the ones headed for Hell.

ceh85 · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
"Militant atheists are intellectual trolls who are so blinded by their hatred that they can't see their own hypocrisy of being exactly what they claim to hate: intolerant. If anything, I pity them as I would for anyone who is so blinded and unhappy." - Anonymous

Of course but it's the Christians that buy their music and find their hatred entertaining that I don't get.

Maybe I've missed something but I don't remember anyone here saying they found God-hating music entertaining?

smacarena · Oct 24, 2009

Sitswithamouse said:
Does being a metal head equate to being a sinner in your eyes.
What do you equate to being a metal head troll.?
Bon Jovi?
Metallica?

I was referring to the satanic metal bands. Man, this thread has taken a ride on the hellivator, to the bottom floor.

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

"We all write how we feel , we all use imagination that we borrow from history and legends. We all need to make sense of things and vampirism does just that.
The taking of souls, the sexual feelings of the neck being carressed and bitten."

There is Godly sex within marriage which is beautiful including carressing the neck etc. but the taking of souls and biting the neck to draw blood is a perversion and a twisting of the blood sacrifice of Christ to save our soul. It smacks of the Prince of Darkness.

"Woe unto them who call good evil and evil good."

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

ceh85 said:
Maybe I've missed something but I don't remember anyone here saying they found God-hating music entertaining?

yes you did miss something. reread the thread.

Sitswithamouse · Oct 24, 2009

smacarena said:
I was referring to the satanic metal bands. Man, this thread has taken a ride on the hellivator, to the bottom floor.

Metal head has a different meaning for each of those that listen to the music.
Can you please adresse the other points in my post about the different genres and what they represent?

intricatic · Oct 24, 2009

Sitswithamouse said:
You do realise that before the cross ,the accepted symbol of christianity was the pentacle and it was the secret code of which christians aknowledged their faith to one another as christians? They then changed from the pagan symbol to the fish and then through Constantine the cross was the accepted version of how christians could identify each other?
It is only those that do not understand where the pagan , Jewish symbol of the pentagram that distorts the symbol of christianity.
Although I would assume that christians and so called satanists of the (I want to be different degree) would use such a thing to be different.

It is not the symbol of the cross that I would define christs suffering or his sacrifice, it is through his story .
The cross to me is a symbol that if christ saw it today would be just a reminder of the electric chair and who would want to be reminded of that? A symbol of the horrors of his death..His life and his works are the main teaching not his death.
Okay he died for us and he sufferred, but so have so many before or after, Look at his life, his sayings and his teachings and live by those.
He died to save us ALL and that I believe, but we have to seperate the man and the various religions of his death, then we understand.
No religion has the monoply of life.
No human or christian knows what is truly myth or true.

Actually, Christ's death is sort of the point of His life, teachings and history. He alluded towards it many times, and the crucifixion itself underlies almost everything about the gospel (good news). This is the case due to what happened immediately afterwards; Christ rose from the grave. The crucifixion was His purpose as the Lamb of God (John 1:29-31, Genesis 22:8), and His teachings revolved around that fact (Matt. 16:24, Luke 14:27, etc..).

IDDQD · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
"Militant atheists are intellectual trolls who are so blinded by their hatred that they can't see their own hypocrisy of being exactly what they claim to hate: intolerant. If anything, I pity them as I would for anyone who is so blinded and unhappy." - Anonymous

Of course but it's the Christians that buy their music and find their hatred entertaining that I don't get.

Sitswithamouse · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
yes you did miss something. reread the thread.

If a band chooses to be representive of satan, then that is their perogotive. It does not mean that all those that listen to heavy metal take it seriously.

intricatic · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
nope...

are you brainwshed to by atheist propaganda? satan hates the cross of Christ. christians of all people should get that. I could post some real eye opening stuff but I have to remember this is a christian forum

"Foresee the death of the holy alliance
The withering corpse of christ
Mock the cross
Mock the cross!"

These lyrics mock CHRIST and His cross!

There is none so blind as those who are blind to the truth.

Those lyrics were written by people who probably don't even believe that Christ was a real person in history. Otherwise, they probably use it for shock value (which is frequent in music - controversy and rebellion sells). There are only a handfull of bands that I would worry about for the contents of their lyrics, and this band is not one of them, as it only retains an aesthetic quality with no underlying purpose. That is, it's all fat and no meat, so to speak. Bands that actually glorify Satan and denigrate Christ are much more subtle, and so is Satan. Satan isn't afraid of two parallel lines, but he is afraid of Christ.

Blank123 · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
I know you must be joking. obviously you know the scriptures. You want me to quote the scriptures about blasphemy and how blasphemers are going to end up in the lake of fire?

"Blessed is he who is not offended in me." says Jesus. Is bloodbath offended in Jesus? The lyrics are obvious.

"Those who trample underfoot the blood of the Son of God and again expose Him to open shame. God is not mocked!' from the book of hebrews.

no, I want you to substantiate your arguments, which for some reason keep changing.

You started the thread claiming that fictitional literature was somehow a fulfillment of prophecy, which you later admitted was not the case because the scripture you thought you were referncing does not exist. You seemingly confused it with the verse i posted from Isaiah.

Then you tried to argue that the cross on its own apart from the symbolism it holds in the gospel is a threat to Satan and that he actually feared it. Yet you offered no substantiation for that.

Now you're claiming that satan doesn't fear the cross, he hates it. And you posted lyrics from a band that does not claim to be satanic in order to back up those claims. Still no Scriptural backup though.

Now you're trying to switch the argument from Satan and the cross to blasphemers and their eternal destiny.

Maybe you should take some time away from this thread and decide what it is you're actually trying to argue, find out if the Bible actually supports what you're trying to argue, and then come back.

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

Sitswithamouse said:
If a band chooses to be representive of satan, then that is their perogotive. It does not mean that all those that listen to heavy metal take it seriously.

Yeah jesus doesn't take it serious when His own followers headbang to the lyrics,

"mock the cross! mock the cross!"

He wasn't bothered by people raising their fists to the words, 'crucify Him! Crucify Him!" either.

smacarena · Oct 24, 2009

Sitswithamouse said:
Metal head has a different meaning for each of those that listen to the music.
Can you please adresse the other points in my post about the different genres and what they represent?

Take it easy! I happen to enjoy lots of different types of music. I'm listening to Kiss right now. But when it comes to bands that use satanic imagery in their music, I just don't like that crap.

IDDQD · Oct 24, 2009

white dove · Oct 24, 2009

There is no reasoning here.

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

smacarena said:
Take it easy! I happen to enjoy lots of different types of music. I'm listening to Kiss right now. But when it comes to bands that use satanic imagery in their music, I just don't like that crap.

no need to apologize. except the extending of the tongue thing has a small hint of satanism. But kiss is not as blatant and bloodbath. when you liten to them they sound like satan is talking right right the lead singer.

kisstheson · Oct 24, 2009

Bands that actually glorify Satan and denigrate Christ are much more subtle, and so is Satan. Satan isn't afraid of two parallel lines, but he is afraid of Christ.

Yup! Subtle...

Satan hates those two parallel lines because of what they represent.

Markus6 · Oct 24, 2009

kisstheson said:
Bands that actually glorify Satan and denigrate Christ are much more subtle, and so is Satan. Satan isn't afraid of two parallel lines, but he is afraid of Christ.

Yup! Subtle...

Satan hates those two parallel lines because of what they represent.

Perpendicular.

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