My Evolution Challenge

AV1611VET said:

The direction the sun rises and/or sets.

I face North, and East, the direction of the rising sun, is on my right.

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Hey, that´s correct!

And now tell me how you use that to establish the orientation of earth´s magnetic field.

AV1611VET said:

The orientation of the earth's magnetic field can take a hike.

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Yay! \o/

AV1611VET said:

The orientation of the earth's magnetic field can take a hike.

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Earth's magnetic field isn't going anywhere for a long time. At least not so long as the core's made of heavy metals, such as iron.

AV1611VET said:

No --- not all of it.

He left a note behind.

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Shame he forgot to sign it.

Can't be counted as evidence for anything, anymore than the LotR can be counted as evidence for cave trolls.

AV1611VET said:

The orientation of the earth's magnetic field can take a hike.

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Whoa! Wait a minute! Is that your post here:

AV1611VET said:

You do know that the earth reversed its magnetic field in AD 58, causing the poles to switch?

And that Nero blamed it on the Christians?

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Aye, this is your post.You made this claim. You and you alone. Not your precious bible... it naturally does not make any reference to something that people didn´t have a clue about in the first century.

So while I might, marginally, if you put a gun to my head, agree that the authors of the Bible did receive divine knowledge about earth´s magnetic field and an instant switch of it... I still would like to know how old Nero would know that.

You make bold claims that are easier to shoot down than sitting ducks... and than you retreat to your standard line "it can take a hike". Now you are at the point where you even tell your own claims to take a hike.

Really, AV, you should get professional help. Such a behaviour is not a sign of a sound mind.

AV1611VET said:

The orientation of the earth's magnetic field can take a hike.

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Why don't you act like a real man and just confess you've got nothing to back up your earlier claim, instead of just /threading-out like an intellectual coward?

After reading enough threads with AV in them, I must say, you sir are a brilliant comedian.
I don't think many people on the internet have such dedication.

AV1611VET said:

Um ... excuse me.

I said Nero persecuted the Christians in AD58 for turning the world upside down.

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No, you didn´t. Call me a literalist, but you said (quote) "You do know that the earth reversed its magnetic field in AD 58, causing the poles to switch?"

You get that from this verse about the world turning upside down.

The part about the magnetic poles reversing is in respect to how it was done.

In other words, I'm agreeing with science here.

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You agree... with what? Where does "science" ever said something about a reversal of the magnetic field in 58AD or any other upturnings of the world? Nowhere!

HOWEVER, if as you say, a magnetic reversal doesn't work that way --- no problem.

(Remember, I agree with 95% of science.)

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You don´t agree with anything... you make stuff up and then you make more stuff up to support the first... and when your hand is blown, you withdraw and tell everyone and everything to "take a hike".

So if the earth's reversal in AD58 wasn't because of science, I have no problem with that.

Do you?

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"because of science"? Now what is that to mean? Another of your non-sensical word-twisters.

WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED IN 58AD? In you over-literal stance, "turning the world upside down" must refer to the planet Earth... no other interpretation possible. And so you start to make things up. Yet a magnetical reversal is out of question... whether "because of science" or whatever you want the cause to be. A magnetical reversal would simply have been ignored. It would not have been noticed. The people of that time did not have the means to notice it. You do not have the means to notice it now.

So what was it, if it wasn´t a magnetic reversal? A physical one? That would have been noticable... but no one noticed that either. No change in the turning of the sun, or the directions.

So what happened? Could that verse not be, gasp, non-literal, and refer to an upheaving of society? The Christians definitely did that, and were "persecuted" for that.

AV continues his downward spiral into insanity. Keep up the good work, Freodin.

AV1611VET said:

Excuse me --- the Bible says it, that settles it.

Why do you think the Bible portrays those living in Samaria as going "up" to the city, if Samaria wasn't south of Jerusalem?

Everything is "gradual" to you guys --- instantaneous to us, though ---

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Up probably means literally up, as in it is higher altitude, or upriver, or up in some orientation of their maps.

AV1611VET said:

Um ... excuse me.

I said Nero persecuted the Christians in AD58 for turning the world upside down.

The part about the magnetic poles reversing is in respect to how it was done.

In other words, I'm agreeing with science here.

HOWEVER, if as you say, a magnetic reversal doesn't work that way --- no problem.

(Remember, I agree with 95% of science.)

So if the earth's reversal in AD58 wasn't because of science, I have no problem with that.

Do you?

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The early christians were looked at as being sinister because they met at night, in secret, blasphemed the jewish teachings, worshipped as their savior who they claim rose from the dead, and ate his flesh and drank his blood. If this is what you consider 'turning the world upside down,' then you would be correct.

BTW, when are you going to concede that I won your challenge?

How long tell that's on FSTDT

AV1611VET said:

Once again, Nero persecuted the Christians for turning the world upside down --- as in 'reversing its poles.'

In AD57, [what is now called] Antarctica was at the top of the world --- due North.

In AD58, [what is now called] Antarctica was at the bottom of the world --- due South.

Nero used that as an excuse to persecute the Christians.

Is there any way I can make this any simpler for you?

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You are really too much AV. I hereby declare confer the title of "Uber-Poe."