Serbia still Resists!

Alexander Nevsky · Sep 20, 2009

Serbian people successfully called off a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade. To read more about it: BBC NEWS | Europe | Serbian gay parade is called off

Gwendolyn · Sep 20, 2009

That is definitely a good thing.

But what does this mean?

"In our city infidels and Satanists will not pass," it added.

Is Serbia a Muslim country? Are Christians the 'infidels' mentioned? =/

ikonographics · Sep 20, 2009

Gwendolyn said:
That is definitely a good thing.

But what does this mean?

Is Serbia a Muslim country? Are Christians the 'infidels' mentioned? =/

Serbia is an ORTHODOX country.

Mytheodos · Sep 20, 2009

A defeat for the zionists..A VICTORY FOR ORTHODOXY :clap:

Gwendolyn · Sep 20, 2009

ikonographics said:
Serbia is an ORTHODOX country.

So 'infidels' would just be people who deny the faith? Just trying to get a handle on the use of the word.

Sphinx777 · Sep 20, 2009

Serbia (Serbian: Србија, Srbija), officially the Republic of Serbia (Serbian: Република Србија, Republika Srbija), is a country located in both Central and Southeastern Europe. Its territory covers the southern part of the Pannonian Plain and central part of the Balkans. Serbia borders Hungary to the north; Romania and Bulgaria to the east; the Republic of Macedonia to the south; and Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro to the west. Although Albania, to the southwest, shares no borders with Serbia proper, it does border Kosovo, which Serbia regards as an integral part of its territory. Belgrade is the capital of Serbia and the largest city.

After the Slavic settlement in the Balkans, Serbs formed a medieval kingdom that evolved into a Serbian Empire, which reached its peak in the 14th century. In the 16th century Serbian lands were conquered by Ottomans. Serbia regained independence from the Ottoman Empire in a 19th century revolution and subsequently expanded its territory. Former Habsburg crownland of Vojvodina joined Serbia in 1918. Following the end of World War I, the country united with other South Slavic peoples into the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. After World War II it became a federal unit within Socialist Yugoslavia, which broke apart in a series of wars in the 1990s. Serbia once again became an independent state in 2006, following the breakup of a short-lived union with Montenegro.

In February 2008, the parliament of Kosovo, Serbia's southern province with an ethnic Albanian majority, declared independence. The response from the international community has been mixed. Serbia regards Kosovo as its autonomous province governed by the United Nations.

Serbia is a member of the United Nations, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, and the Council of Europe which it presided over in 2007. It is also a potential candidate for membership in the European Union and a militarily neutral country.

127.0.0.1 · Sep 20, 2009

I don't think all gay people are Satonists, let alone Jewish. Also, infidel sounds too Islamic to me. If we ran around call every non-believer an infidel it would seem to imply that The Holy Spirit does work outside the Church.

a.d.ivNonasNovembres · Sep 20, 2009

Command0182 said:
I don't think all gay people are Satonists, let alone Jewish. Also, infidel sounds too Islamic to me. If we ran around call every non-believer an infidel it would seem to imply that The Holy Spirit does work outside the Church.

Technically "infidel" just means one who does not have faith or one who is not faithful.
If faith in this context is "the faith" then infidel is exactly what a non-believer is.

But it is a word which in modern english parlance has particular connotations.

Supreme · Sep 20, 2009

Serbia is very diverse, with populations of Catholics, Orthodox Christians and Muslims (but no Protestants?). Anyway, 'infidel' is originally a Christian term. 'kafir' is used in Islam to refer to non-Muslims.

Not surprising, Serbia is hardly a modern nation when it comes to these things.

Also, why is k*fir showing up as wash my mouth?

All Englands Skies · Sep 20, 2009

Gwendolyn said:
So 'infidels' would just be people who deny the faith? Just trying to get a handle on the use of the word.

an infidel is a "non" or "Unbeliever"

Hense the name in some countries "Fidel" (like Fidel Castro), that name means "Beliver", so "Infidel" means Non/unbeliver.

Aesjn · Sep 20, 2009

Threatening violence against people who are evil because they commit a victimless crime is so wonderful!

Ortho_Cat · Sep 20, 2009

Iconographics, I just noticed your icon in your signature line. Why doesn't Jesus have a cruciform halo?

rusmeister · Sep 20, 2009

Aesjn said:
Threatening violence against people who are evil because they commit a victimless crime is so wonderful!

The threat of violence does not come from the Orthodox Church. It is an understandable, if wrong, human reaction by people (in general) who, probably more unconsciously than consciously recognize the attack that this represents on the family and society.

But none of that affects the Orthodox stand.

127.0.0.1 · Sep 20, 2009

I fail to see how legally letting gays marry somehow destroys marriage unless you think that if people could marry gay that nobody would marry straight anymore... ?

MariaRegina · Sep 21, 2009

This thread is all about how Serbians are resisting the Western urge to tolerate gay parades. Those parades are scandalous and promote a sinful lifestyle. I stay clear of them. I laud the Serbians for not tolerating public displays of sinful lifestyles.

However, violence is not the answer.

E.C. · Sep 21, 2009

Go Serbia for the resistance of Western liberality.

Nay to Serbia for the usage of violence.

MariaRegina · Sep 21, 2009

E.C. said:
Go Serbia for the resistance of Western liberality.

Nay to Serbia for the usage of violence.

rusmeister · Sep 21, 2009

Command0182 said:
I fail to see how legally letting gays marry somehow destroys marriage unless you think that if people could marry gay that nobody would marry straight anymore... ?

I don't have time to treat this fair question as it deserves, but in extreme short the question at its heart is: "What IS marriage?" Is it something specific and external to you and your desires, or is it something you can define according to your desires. If the latter, then the concept of the family, which is based on the former, becomes whatever you want it to be. And thus you make the concept of family of no effect, meaningless. You have redefined it so that it is no longer an objective thing. And by redefining it once, you open the door to anyone who wants to redefine it further, by the mere fact that you have established that it may be redefined. There is no reason to stop at calling two men in such a relationship the defining limit. And then we also have to ask "What's next?"

Catherineanne · Sep 21, 2009

ortho_cat said:
Iconographics, I just noticed your icon in your signature line. Why doesn't Jesus have a cruciform halo?

That is not an icon. No names, therefore not written.

Ortho_Cat · Sep 21, 2009

Hrm perhaps. I still find it odd to see a halo on the Theotokos but not on the Christ child though...

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