Guardian Angels

stone · Jul 27, 2009

seeker777 said:
Would it not have been wiser and easier for said supernatural being, to have grabbed her by the shirt collar, *before* she fell off the dock?

Why the need for such a dramatic and theatrical rescue?

Perhaps so that this message is given to others? Even Jesus was asked questions like this about healing the blind and he answered that it's done for the glory of God. That is, by one man being blind and as he recovred his site, millions of others throughout time and history, have also had their eyes opened.

MoNiCa4316 · Jul 27, 2009

seeker777 said:
1) There is no evidence that they are real.

2) If they are real, they aren't particularily good at their jobs.

there actually is evidence that they're real...

there are people who have seen Angels..

they are in Scripture too.

and they ARE good at their jobs, the reason bad things happen is because God allows them to, the Angels do His will and not their own.

MoNiCa4316 · Jul 27, 2009

seeker777 said:
MoNiCa4316 said:

there actually is evidence that they're real...

There are people who claim to have seen Bigfoot and Aliens. Claiming to have seen something, is not a proof.

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except these cases are approved by the Church and have been investigated (not only by theologians but by scientists and psychologists too)

Unicorns are mentioned in scripture.

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where?

Unicorns are mythical creatures that have never existed. Something having been written in a book, is not proof.

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the Bible is not just a book, it's inspired..

MoNiCa4316 · Jul 27, 2009

"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't believe, no explanation is possible."

if someone has already made up their mind not to believe something, no amount of proof will convince them. It takes a certain amount of faith to accept an explanation of any given thing.

Tigg · Jul 27, 2009

seeker777 said:
Would it not have been wiser and easier for said supernatural being, to have grabbed her by the shirt collar, *before* she fell off the dock?

Why the need for such a dramatic and theatrical rescue?

Another fair commentary, in that it is rather amazing that your daughter didn't have her ribs broken when the supernatural being pushed against her chest with such an amazing amount of force that it not only stopped her in mid-air, but also was hard enough to propel her body through the air and back onto the dock.

To be frank, I would suspect that the physical forces in play would compare to being struck by a car.

*Yes, I am highly skeptical of such a fantastic claim.*

Ahh, my daughter and I prevaricate huh? Lolololo. Why the dramatic and theatrical rescue? I don't know but I am ever so thankful for that rescue. Why this way and not that? I have no idea. I just know it happened.

Why God did choose to be dramatic and theatrical, (hummm), and chose to be crucified and hang on a cross for this miserable species is truly beyond me as well. But He did. He could have chosen an easier way but didn't. All that drama and blood and suffering. Nailed down and lifted up. Why so "dramatic". One word would have done it instead, right?

You are free to believe or not believe whatever you choose to. God bless...

KeenanParkerII · Jul 27, 2009

Another fair commentary, in that it is rather amazing that your daughter didn't have her ribs broken when the supernatural being pushed against her chest with such an amazing amount of force that it not only stopped her in mid-air, but also was hard enough to propel her body through the air and back onto the dock.

To be frank, I would suspect that the physical forces in play would compare to being struck by a car.

I understand and appreciate scientific inquiry, and a healthy dose of skepticism, but this is a little nonsensical..

Those types of forces wouldn't amount until she had completely fallen off the cliff and was plummeting towards the ground. It takes a matter of grams to cause an imbalance, and a matter of pounds to re-alight someone not in a free-fall.

source: Fall protection/hazard awareness course 08.

And I say this simply because it's true, not to be abrasive.

Tigg · Jul 27, 2009

stone said:
Perhaps so that this message is given to others? Even Jesus was asked questions like this about healing the blind and he answered that it's done for the glory of God. That is, by one man being blind and as he recovred his site, millions of others throughout time and history, have also had their eyes opened.

Without which I would not believe. I love St. Thomas as well. Wonderful man. God bless.

WarriorAngel · Jul 27, 2009

You may be entertaining angels, unaware.

JoabAnias · Jul 28, 2009

Verging on dispair and coming out of a deep depression, I came to name my guardian angel about 15 years ago. I also somehow (don't remember how) came to believe he had a companion angel and I named him too.

I have since learned the practice of naming angels is not recommened but I can't really unname them now.

I have a devotion to the nine choirs of angels. All nine are named in the St. Michaels Chaplet over in the Chapel here and I find that devotion to be a great help in overcoming the sinful nature and as a reminder of virtues that always seem to remind me of my own sins. As well as an awareness of the vast variety of spiritual enemies we have out there prowling about the world.

Mother Angelica recites that Chaplet every moring at 7 am on EWTN and claims to have seen St. Michael on several occasions. When we are with God we will also be with the Angels.

Oh yea, I named those two angels by praying for days for the proper name and when the names came to me they were Joab and Anias.

JoabAnias · Jul 28, 2009

Todays reading mentions Angels twice.

Matthew 13: 36 - 43
36 Then he left the crowds and went into the house. And his disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds of the field.” 37 He answered, “He who sows the good seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world, and the good seed means the sons of the kingdom; the weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the close of the age, and the reapers are angels. 40 Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the close of the age. 41 The Son of man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all evildoers, 42 and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

Y_Cathol · Jul 28, 2009

well, personally, I seem to know that I have my Guardian Angel and, at the same time knowing that acts as a deterant to me for doing bad stuff (if my Angel sees and is in the Presence of God....)...

Anway I feel blessed and honoured that God would "Light and Guard, Rule and Guide" me with one of His holy Angels

seeker777 · Jul 28, 2009

MoNiCa4316 said:
where?

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You asked, where are unicorns found in the Bible.

Job 39:9-10 (King James Version)

Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

seeker777 · Jul 28, 2009

MoNiCa4316 said:
there are people who have seen Angels..

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There are also people who claim to have seen Bigfoot and Aliens. That doesn't mean that aliens and bigfoot are real.

they are in Scripture too.

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Unicorns, ancient man living many centuries and giants are in the scriptures. Yet, unicorns and giants are mythical beings. People do not and have not, ever lived for many centuries.

JoabAnias · Jul 28, 2009

seeker777 said:
Job 39:9-10 (King James Version)

Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

Thats the problem.

Job 39:9-10 Shall the rhinoceros be willing to serve thee, or will he stay at thy crib? Canst thou bind the rhinoceros with thy thong to plough, or will he break the clods of the valleys after thee?
Douay-Rheims Bible, Book Of Job Chapter 39

JoabAnias · Jul 28, 2009

seeker777 said:
There are also people who claim to have seen Bigfoot and Aliens. That doesn't mean that aliens and bigfoot are real.

Unicorns, ancient man living many centuries and giants are in the scriptures. Yet, unicorns and giants are mythical beings. People do not and have not, ever lived for many centuries.

Hermeneutics: Understanding Revelation

seeker777 · Jul 28, 2009

Y_Cathol said:
knowing that acts as a deterant to me for doing bad stuff (if my Angel sees and is in the Presence of God....)

God is omniscient. God sees and knows everything you do and think. God knows what your going to do, before you even do it. God knew one trillion years ago, that I was going to write this sentence.

I would suspect that knowing that God was watching me every moment of my life and reading every single one of my thoughts, would be more than enough of a deterrent, without needing another supernatural being ( angel) watching and telling on me.

JoabAnias · Jul 28, 2009

seeker777 said:
I would suspect that knowing that God was watching me every moment of my life and reading every single one of my thoughts, would be more than enough of a deterrent, without needing another supernatural being (angel) watching and telling on me.

Heavenly Angels are friends.

Y_Cathol · Jul 28, 2009

seeker777 said:
God is omniscient. God sees and knows everything you do and think. God knows what your going to do, before you even do it. God knew one trillion years ago, that I was going to write this sentence.

I would suspect that knowing that God was watching me every moment of my life and reading every single one of my thoughts, would be more than enough of a deterrent, without needing another supernatural being ( angel) watching and telling on me.

Yeah 100% God Knowing, and watching and being within me, I dunno it's all these things together. But in the context of the post my Guardian Angel is a thought thats prevailant as well.

As far as God knowing all, God Knows all; Sees all, and is Within all. And as soon as either I have done something or am thinking of somehting bad etc. the Image of Christ Crucified is on my mind so yeah I guess it's a whole multide of things that do disuade me; I just find it comforting to know that my Guardian Angel is there also protecting me from myself.

MoNiCa4316 · Jul 28, 2009

JoabAnias said:
Verging on dispair and coming out of a deep depression, I came to name my guardian angel about 15 years ago. I also somehow (don't remember how) came to believe he had a companion angel and I named him too.

I have since learned the practice of naming angels is not recommened but I can't really unname them now.

I have a devotion to the nine choirs of angels. All nine are named in the St. Michaels Chaplet over in the Chapel here and I find that devotion to be a great help in overcoming the sinful nature and as a reminder of virtues that always seem to remind me of my own sins. As well as an awareness of the vast variety of spiritual enemies we have out there prowling about the world.

Mother Angelica recites that Chaplet every moring at 7 am on EWTN and claims to have seen St. Michael on several occasions. When we are with God we will also be with the Angels.

Oh yea, I named those two angels by praying for days for the proper name and when the names came to me they were Joab and Anias.

you know, I've always wondered! (what your name means)

JoabAnias said:
Heavenly Angels are friends.

I'm really glad that they are watching over us. And that God and all of Heaven are watching over us too. It is sad that they see all my sins, but it is still comforting and it's important to the Christian (Catholic) idea of "Communion of Saints".

Rhamiel · Jul 29, 2009

seeker777 said:
MoNiCa4316 said:

You asked, where are unicorns found in the Bible.

Job 39:9-10 (King James Version)

Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

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one of the reasons we do not use the KJV bible

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