which lens do you look at the scriptures through?

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I know. I have several friends who are Catholic. I love them dearly. That does not change the origins of the church though.



It really takes very little research to find this. [/color]

It doesn't take much research to dismiss it too.

Let's NOT go there.
 
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It doesn't take much research to dismiss it too.

Let's NOT go there.

That is hardly a good enough answer to send me backtracking on what is recorded in history. I welcome anything that you have that proves different. Except it would be off track of the OP. Perhaps you could start a thread of proof of whatever it is that you say you have dismissed due to your non-extensive research.

If you don't want to go there you should not have said that it took very little research to prove it wrong.
 
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A combination of the first and second. I believe that the Word of God has a single interpretation. That interpretation, though, is done by revelation of the Holy Spirit. I know I don't have all the correct answers when it comes to my interpretations of Scriptures. While I believe a certain way, I do continue to study and learn from others, letting the Holy Spirit guide me to the fundamental Truth.
 
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That is hardly a good enough answer to send me backtracking on what is recorded in history. I welcome anything that you have that proves different. Except it would be off track of the OP. Perhaps you could start a thread of proof of whatever it is that you say you have dismissed due to your non-extensive research.

If you don't want to go there you should not have said that it took very little research to prove it wrong.

I didn't say that I dismissed it due to my "non-extensive research." I said it didn't take much research....


I do not want to derail the thread and do want to respect the mod hat and so will drop it for now. Maybe another time in the approriate place we can discuss it.
 
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I didn't say that I dismissed it due to my "non-extensive research." I said it didn't take much research....


I do not want to derail the thread and do want to respect the mod hat and so will drop it for now. Maybe another time in the approriate place we can discuss it.

I understand, but I still welcome any proof you have uncovered with very little research. ;) Or, are you dismissing without having yet done any research and you're just stalling? If you have the proof that what I have referred to is false, then please start the thread showing such proof.

I don't consider asking for proof as a debate. However, if there is proof, it does deserve it's own thread.
 
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I understand, but I still welcome any proof you have uncovered with very little research. ;) Or, are you dismissing without having yet done any research and you're just stalling? If you have the proof that what I have referred to is false, then please start the thread showing such proof.

I don't consider asking for proof as a debate. However, if there is proof, it does deserve it's own thread.


This is NOT the thread for that dicussion. It would be off topic.

YES,I have researched it as atheists used to bring the idea that Christianity is from Mithraism frequently in the Debate a Fundamentalist forum and elsewhere.

However, I do not have the time for such a debate on it - I am actually on vacation and would like to spend time with family. And I have responsiblities to this site that take time.


So another time, SpiritPsalmist - please do not try to egg me on to have the debate in this thread, which would be off topic to this thread.
 
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If I may add..:)
Revelation trumps a lens.

Look at these words....

Said By Jewish man who knew the law,he had a lens,yet check out his insight.


Romans 10:3 For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.


1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin, and thepower of sin is the law.



Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

 
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This is NOT the thread for that dicussion. It would be off topic.

YES,I have researched it as atheists used to bring the idea that Christianity is from Mithraism frequently in the Debate a Fundamentalist forum and elsewhere.

However, I do not have the time for such a debate on it - I am actually on vacation and would like to spend time with family. And I have responsiblities to this site that take time.


So another time, SpiritPsalmist - please do not try to egg me on to have the debate in this thread, which would be off topic to this thread.

:scratch: I was not trying to egg you on to debate in this thread. I requested that you start a new thread. Twice in the post you quoted I said something about you starting a new thread. Didn't you see that part? Sheesh! Nevermind!

I'll note though, that I did not mean to give the idea that Christianity comes from Mithraism. It does not. What I meant to convey was that those who claimed Christianity under Constantine, incorporated Mithraism which was their religion before their supposed conversion. They did not like all that Jewish stuff and wanted to keep all the pagan stuff they had going with their previous gods. So they mixed and matched. And much of that stuff is still hanging around today.

If we don't search it out for ourselves we just continue in traditions that we don't even know did not come via God but another source.
Which brings us back to the OP:

When it comes to reading the scriptures, which do you prefer.

firstly, a logical one where you have to understand the meaning of the scripture and it can have only one meaning

or

secondly an intuitive approach where one scripture can have multiple meanings as the Spirit leads you to understand it / the same scripture can ean different things to different people.

or

thirdly, some other way of seeing the scriptures which I have not mentioned.


Steve

p.s. so what's your take?
 
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