If you had a million dollars, how would you spend it?

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Pardon my ignorance, but I wouldn't know what to do with a million dollars.
Besides, I have read a number of stories over the years telling of people winning big money and ending up as poor as earthworms.

And think of all the hassles that come with winning a million or two. Everyone will be after you asking for a handout. Vultures disguised as financial advisers will try to grab a piece. Best one can do is move out of town and change one's name.

Thanks, but no thanks to all that money which is no guarantee for happiness.

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This really cracks me up when I hear someone saying money can't bring happiness ! Amazing. It's considered the root of all evil and yet churches and TV evangelists are constantly begging for it. Give me a break. I'd know what to do with a million dollars thank you very much. It's not that complicated. And true. Many who win lotto's end up broke within a couple years.
 
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This really cracks me up when I hear someone saying money can't bring happiness ! Amazing. It's considered the root of all evil and yet churches and TV evangelists are constantly begging for it.

Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter.
- Ayn Rand

So true.


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Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter.
- Ayn Rand

So true.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Just gotta love her philosophy. Great stuff.
 
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And your point is?
There's nothing to love about her "philosophy". It's a gross overreaction to Soviet ideology, and every inch as simplistic, one-dimensional, and twisted as the same. Not only does she stoop to demonizing every single person who disagrees with her (which is pretty much a no-go, anyway), she doesn't even manage to correctly represent the system that she does seek to promote. Her grasp of capitalism is rather poor, in fact: the free market is not about titanic entrepeneurs kindly dragging the "rabble" along - it's about everyone participating in it. "The customer is always right", remember? Besides, her grasp of interpersonal relationships is extremely poor. She sounds like a whiny adolescent in her "misunderstood genius" phase, obsessing about herself and totally missing that it's not all about her.
Even in the rare instances when Ms. Rand happens to be right, she's right for the wrong reasons. Heck, if it weren't for the altruism of her American relations (who had nothing whatsoever to gain by keeping her), she would have remained in St. Petersburg.
 
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Hi there WW, Are you sure you're not related to someone else in here who despises Ayn Rand? You almost sound just like her.

There's nothing to love about her "philosophy". It's a gross overreaction to Soviet ideology, and every inch as simplistic, one-dimensional, and twisted as the same. Not only does she stoop to demonizing every single person who disagrees with her (which is pretty much a no-go, anyway), she doesn't even manage to correctly represent the system that she does seek to promote. Her grasp of capitalism is rather poor, in fact: the free market is not about titanic entrepeneurs kindly dragging the "rabble" along - it's about everyone participating in it. "The customer is always right", remember? Besides, her grasp of interpersonal relationships is extremely poor. She sounds like a whiny adolescent in her "misunderstood genius" phase, obsessing about herself and totally missing that it's not all about her.
Even in the rare instances when Ms. Rand happens to be right, she's right for the wrong reasons. Heck, if it weren't for the altruism of her American relations (who had nothing whatsoever to gain by keeping her), she would have remained in St. Petersburg.

If I were a visitor from another planet and I read this I would be of the impression that this woman was probably the most wicked person in the universe from your venomous description of her. Wow! I also like this quote by Ms Rand:

[SIZE=+1]The Founding Fathers were neither passive, death-worshiping mystics nor mindless, power-seeking looters; as a political group, they were a phenomenon unprecedented in history: they were thinkers who were also men of action. They had rejected the soul-body dichotomy, with its two corollaries: the impotence of man's mind and the damnation of this earth; they had rejected the doctrine of suffering as man's metaphysical fate, they proclaimed man's right to the pursuit of happiness and were determined to establish on earth the conditions required for man's proper existence, by the "unaided" power of their intellect.[/SIZE]
 
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Hi there WW, Are you sure you're not related to someone else in here who despises Ayn Rand? You almost sound just like her.
That's my wife you're talking about. And yes, great minds think alike.



If I were a visitor from another planet and I read this I would be of the impression that this woman was probably the most wicked person in the universe from your venomous description of her. Wow!
Judging by what I've seen and read, she does strike me as a rather hateful and obnoxious person with a very narrow one-track mind and no sense of humour whatsoever. A person so utterly fanatical and misguided that she'd cause grievous harm while believing to pursue the Greater Good - but wicked? Nah. I don't deal in such categories.

I also like this quote by Ms Rand:

[SIZE=+1]The Founding Fathers were neither passive, death-worshiping mystics nor mindless, power-seeking looters; as a political group, they were a phenomenon unprecedented in history: they were thinkers who were also men of action. They had rejected the soul-body dichotomy, with its two corollaries: the impotence of man's mind and the damnation of this earth; they had rejected the doctrine of suffering as man's metaphysical fate, they proclaimed man's right to the pursuit of happiness and were determined to establish on earth the conditions required for man's proper existence, by the "unaided" power of their intellect.[/SIZE]
Oh great, she was a fawning nationalist to boot, promoting historical myths as fact. That sure endears her all the more to me - NOT.
 
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That's my wife you're talking about. And yes, great minds think alike.
How do you know who I'm talking about? Your wife? Hey, I'm not against same sex marriage. No problem.



Judging by what I've seen and read, she does strike me as a rather hateful and obnoxious person with a very narrow one-track mind and no sense of humour whatsoever. A person so utterly fanatical and misguided that she'd cause grievous harm while believing to pursue the Greater Good - but wicked? Nah. I don't deal in such categories.
Wow! Amazing. I think she had a pretty good sense of humor if you ask me. I was watching a video on Youtube with her being interviewed by Phil Donahue back in the 60's and believe me, she was funny. Maybe you don't understand dry humor. I don't know. However, I think your description of her hear is also a little misguided and probably taken the wrong way.

Oh great, she was a fawning nationalist to boot, promoting historical myths as fact. That sure endears her all the more to me - NOT.
What historical myths? The founding fathers or the things they said? Again, I don't know where you are drawing your conclusions from but I think you're a little out in left field somewhere.
 
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What would I do with a million dollars? Well, first I would pay off the mortgage on my house. I would then invest some, put some away for college for my children, and then give to charity (to my church, compassion international, red cross). IMO, money is amoral - it is neither evil or good.
 
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There's nothing to love about her "philosophy". It's a gross overreaction to Soviet ideology, and every inch as simplistic, one-dimensional, and twisted as the same. Not only does she stoop to demonizing every single person who disagrees with her (which is pretty much a no-go, anyway), she doesn't even manage to correctly represent the system that she does seek to promote. Her grasp of capitalism is rather poor, in fact: the free market is not about titanic entrepeneurs kindly dragging the "rabble" along - it's about everyone participating in it. "The customer is always right", remember? Besides, her grasp of interpersonal relationships is extremely poor. She sounds like a whiny adolescent in her "misunderstood genius" phase, obsessing about herself and totally missing that it's not all about her.
Even in the rare instances when Ms. Rand happens to be right, she's right for the wrong reasons. Heck, if it weren't for the altruism of her American relations (who had nothing whatsoever to gain by keeping her), she would have remained in St. Petersburg.


Also, don't forget she was homophobic. Libertarian indeed.
 
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Also, don't forget she was homophobic. Libertarian indeed.
Yeah, and don't get me started on her stance on environmentalism and sustainability. She and her fawning lemmings wouldn't acknowledge any negative anthropogenic impact on the environment even if the toxic waste started to pool up in their back yard. They'd still ramble on about evil anti-humanitarians trying to spoil "progress". Another case of black-and-white thinking of the grossest nature.

Oh, and don't forget her version of the ideal relationship between a woman and a man. Even within a purely heterosexual setting, her views are absurd and somewhat scary.
 
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What historical myths? The founding fathers or the things they said? Again, I don't know where you are drawing your conclusions from but I think you're a little out in left field somewhere.
First off, do you know what a historical myth is? The term is commonly used in cultural science and history departments, but considering the colloquial usage of "myth", it might look like an oxymoron to the man at the bus stop. After all, "myth" is often used interchangeably with "untruth", "fairy tale", "fanciful fiction" and the like.

In this context, the term implies an identity-building tale, something that helps people to construct a sense of cultural belonging. Historical myths are not necessarily completely fictional, but may just as well revolve around a grossly inflated (and potentially misrepresented) historical event.

In a German context, one such myth would be the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in 9 C.E., where Germanic rebels annihilated three Roman legions and thus (with regards to long-term consequences) pretty much put an end to the Empire's expansion in that direction. Especially in the 19th century, when nationalism ran rampant, this historical myth was celebrated as the birth of the German nation, a battle for independence, cultural sovereignty and freedom.
In fact, it was nothing of the sort.

The same applies to your Rand quote here. It's mostly intended to instill the reader with a sense of fawning adoration, of nationalist pride, and represents the history of the united states in a way that's supposed to imply that Objectivism was more or less an invention of the founding fathers.
Another example would be her version of the history of the Dollar-sign. I guess she wouldn't have been too happy to learn that it was actually derived from the Mexican PESO. Her theory doesn't even account for the fact that the $-sign was around BEFORE THE UNITED STATES EVEN EXISTED.
With Rand, history always conforms to the way she wants it to be.
 
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Well first I would falsify all of my tax documents because automatically the government will take about half of my money. I would add most of the remaining to a secure savings account and invest several thousands into stable funds, bonds, stocks etc. to gain growth and not end up like all of the fools who go totally broke after having all of the money.

Then the actual spending; well I might actually start buying things I torrent because I could afford it. :p Or maybe I would just invest in a fancy 100 Mbit symmetrical fiber line and put the rest for college to avoid loans and debt, that sounds like a great idea.
 
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I'd also like to get this type of Vette.


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That's my wife you're talking about. And yes, great minds think alike.

If they say so themselves!

Just kidding, I enjoy both of your posts a great deal.

I'd first pay off all my bills, buy a modest house, buy a used car of good quality, go back to school and invest the rest.

Why a modest house and a used car? A million dollars isn't what it used to be.
 
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I'd do almost exactly the same thing. Get rid of all debt, buy a house with a little land so I could have a couple mini-cows and a small field to play hobby farmer in... set aside for daughters college and then I'd pick a few charities that are doing great work and do what I could to support them. Probably Equine therapy for handicaped children, the Nature Conservacy, and Oxfam. I'd keep working, but I would do more traveling, 2-3 vacations a year to places like Greece, and India, the Bahamas... :)

I don't think I would get a hybrid... I'd probably go with a Diesel, one of those Mercedes Blue-Tecs and one of these:
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I'd pay off any debt, buy a small but environmentally friendly house, a hybrid car, pay for daughter's college, and have some saved for retirement (I'd continue working). Once my family was taken care of, the rest would be put in banks and the interest would fund various charitable organizations.
 
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