Need Advice Regarding My 21-Month-Old Step-Son

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Hi! I'm new to the forums and this is my first post. My husband and I are facing a very difficult situation in our lives and I could use some advice and guidance. Here is the story:

My husband and I have been together for over 2 years, married for 1 year. Before he and I met, his girlfriend found out she was pregnant with his child and she left him. To say the least, he was crushed. And shortly afterward, he started his life over. He got involved in church, was saved, and got baptized. A couple months later, he and I met and feel in love and were engaged shortly afterward. Everything was falling into place for us and we were a happy and devoted Christian couple. However, right before the baby was to be born, the mother of his child stepped back into his life claiming that she wanted him to be involved in the child's life. This was not a problem for me, for he had told me from the start about the situation and I was accepting of it.

However, over the past 21 months since the baby was born, things have not been well between us and her. She refused to allow us to have unsupervised visitations with the child even after he was plenty old enough to spend a few hours with us. She also would cause problems while we tried to visit with the child...constantly criticizing every little thing we did and even making false accusations against us. At one time she even started writing down in a notebook exactly what time we would show up, what time me left, and everything that was said and done during the visitation and then she would threaten to turn it over to the Office of Child Support to use against us if we ever tried to get partial custody (and by the way we do pay child support and have paid it since the child was born). It seemed to us that she was very jealous of our marriage and was trying to get back at my husband by causing conflict. It got to the point where it was more than we could handle, so we stopped going to the visitations and demanded UNSUPERVISED visits which she adamently refused to give us. She also told us that if we took the matter to court ad tried to get unsupervised weekend visitaitons, that she would fight it and that her "lawyer" told her that she would win. My husband and I have been stuck not knowing what to do for several months now...and we've had no contact with the child during this time (which we hardly had any contact with him to begin with). We pretty much have no relationship with the child and he does not even know who we are and is afraid of us...it's a really sad situation. Family members have told us that the best thing for us to do would be to give up our rights to the child because it would be more cruel to force the child to have visitations with us against his will than it would be for us to give him up and allow him to be happy without us. These family members have been through similar situations with their own children and say that they know from experience how heartbreaking it was for their children to be forced to go with a parent they did not know. Other people, however, have said that it would be wrong to give him up!

So here is the dilemma. We have only two choices...we can either take the mother to court and fight for visitation so we can have him as a part of our lives, or we can give up our rights to the child. It's a difficult decision to make because each choice comes with consequences and we could really use some advice on what would be in the best interest of the child. Please help us figure out the best way to handle this situation.
 

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Personally, I would go to court. I do not know what the laws are where you are but where I am, I think you would have good chance of getting regular visitation or shared custody.
It sounds like the mother is very insecure. She probably is worried about competition from 'another mother' (which you are not really anyway) or that she will lose her child or that her child might prefer you. It's not uncommon and somewhat understandable really.
I would go to a court. If you aren't seeing the child now do you have anything to lose by trying? Before you do that though, I would maybe get a lawyer to write a letter demanding an acceptable level of unsupervised visitation and if this does not happen, you will proceed to court.
Don't do anything until you have talked to a family lawyer though.
 
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Hi, I agree that going to court for your husbands right to visitation would be good.

Keep any and all records of conversations and emails or letters or anything she has communicated to you; especially threats.

Courts see a lot of this, so prayerfully you will get someone who will see through what she had done by threatening to turn over information if ever fight for visitation.

I know it will cost money and that's difficult, though I think you can go on your own without a laywer as regards visitation.

I hope the child support is all documented so that she can not say she didn't receive when she did.

It is your husbands right and child's right to have visitation. Only the mother can make it appear to the child to be 'forced' (at this age) and that's something might be able to work with while working on getting visitation.

God bless you and I know this is so difficult. I have to say the advice you are getting saying give up your rights to the child doesn't sound right to me. That is just my opinion though.

Take care
 
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Hi! I'm new to the forums and this is my first post. My husband and I are facing a very difficult situation in our lives and I could use some advice and guidance. Here is the story:

My husband and I have been together for over 2 years, married for 1 year. Before he and I met, his girlfriend found out she was pregnant with his child and she left him. To say the least, he was crushed. And shortly afterward, he started his life over. He got involved in church, was saved, and got baptized. A couple months later, he and I met and feel in love and were engaged shortly afterward. Everything was falling into place for us and we were a happy and devoted Christian couple. However, right before the baby was to be born, the mother of his child stepped back into his life claiming that she wanted him to be involved in the child's life. This was not a problem for me, for he had told me from the start about the situation and I was accepting of it.

However, over the past 21 months since the baby was born, things have not been well between us and her. She refused to allow us to have unsupervised visitations with the child even after he was plenty old enough to spend a few hours with us. She also would cause problems while we tried to visit with the child...constantly criticizing every little thing we did and even making false accusations against us. At one time she even started writing down in a notebook exactly what time we would show up, what time me left, and everything that was said and done during the visitation and then she would threaten to turn it over to the Office of Child Support to use against us if we ever tried to get partial custody (and by the way we do pay child support and have paid it since the child was born). It seemed to us that she was very jealous of our marriage and was trying to get back at my husband by causing conflict. It got to the point where it was more than we could handle, so we stopped going to the visitations and demanded UNSUPERVISED visits which she adamently refused to give us. She also told us that if we took the matter to court ad tried to get unsupervised weekend visitaitons, that she would fight it and that her "lawyer" told her that she would win. My husband and I have been stuck not knowing what to do for several months now...and we've had no contact with the child during this time (which we hardly had any contact with him to begin with). We pretty much have no relationship with the child and he does not even know who we are and is afraid of us...it's a really sad situation. Family members have told us that the best thing for us to do would be to give up our rights to the child because it would be more cruel to force the child to have visitations with us against his will than it would be for us to give him up and allow him to be happy without us. These family members have been through similar situations with their own children and say that they know from experience how heartbreaking it was for their children to be forced to go with a parent they did not know. Other people, however, have said that it would be wrong to give him up!

So here is the dilemma. We have only two choices...we can either take the mother to court and fight for visitation so we can have him as a part of our lives, or we can give up our rights to the child. It's a difficult decision to make because each choice comes with consequences and we could really use some advice on what would be in the best interest of the child. Please help us figure out the best way to handle this situation.


I am a retired Private Investigator that specialized in domestic relations. ( child custody and property settlement )



The VERY FIRST thing I would do is invest in a good quality tape recorder and use the best quality tapes. ( ONLY ONCE RECORDED UPON ) I would want to make sure it works good on the telephone and is small enough to put in a pocket. Then I would experiment with it till I really knew how to use it. Get long tapes.





Then I would start calling her and also visiting her without the recorder visible. Let her be the big boss and just go along with whatever she does. BUT ON TAPE. Do be in a big hurry. Give them enough rope so they hang themselves well. When you are talking with her ask her for unsupervised visitation, when she would allow it, why she doesn't want you to have it. After that conversation give it a few days and again plead for it again. Always include your thinking about going to court. Remember your talk does not count so let her talk as long as she wants and do not interrupt her.



Then when you are done with that tape there are tabs you can break off so that tape can never be recorded again. Date it and put down the time it was taken. Build a little library of such. When you think you have all she is going to say after about 4 tapes then go to a attorney that will agree to taking her deposition. NOT INTEROGITORS! Make sure you attorney takes the time to listen to the tapes and make notes before the deposition. Attorney's can be lazy. In a deposition she has to come before your attorney with you present and give testimony. She will most likely lie about what she had said but when she does it's on record. INTEROGITORES just gives them time to make up lies and get others to lie for them. ( the lazy attorney's dream )



You can PM me if you have any questions.



Remember GOD'S WORD:




EphesiansChapter 5




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Take no part in the fruitless works of darkness; rather expose them,






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for it is shameful even to mention the things done by them in secret;







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but everything exposed by the light becomes visible,






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for everything that becomes visible is light. Therefore, it says: "Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."



( A Private Investigators creed )




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nope. there are three choices.. you both need to sit down with the child's mother and draw up a schedule that is acceptable to both sides. in the event that this can't be completed. then you have to start legal proceedings...
I agree with this except I do those in reverse.

1st start the legal proceedings, and as part of that - sit down with the mother and draw up a schedule that is acceptable to both.

See a lawyer in your area first, because matters like visitation rights are legal issues. Best to get their professional advice on how to proceed.
 
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