Deja vu...what is really going on?
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Stephen Kendall
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What do you think is really going on when someone experiences 'deja vu'?
Is there anywhere in scripture where something like this is mentioned?
This is from wikipedia:
Déjà vu (pronounced/ˈdeɪʒɑː ˈvuː/ (help·info); French "already seen"; also called paramnesia, from Greek παρα "para," "near" + μνήμη "mnēmē," "memory") or promnesia, is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the near past), although the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain. The term was coined by a French psychic researcher, Émile Boirac (18511917) in his book "L'Avenir des sciences psychiques" ("The Future of Psychic Sciences"), which expanded upon an essay he wrote while an undergraduate. The experience of déjà vu is usually accompanied by a compelling sense of familiarity, and also a sense of "eeriness," "strangeness," or "weirdness." The "previous" experience is most frequently attributed to a dream, although in some cases there is a firm sense that the experience "genuinely happened" in the past.
It seems to be a feeling at the time of the event, not like a vision into the future. I had a friend who told me of a vision in the future one morning as he tied his shoes on. It was like a dream for a short while (a vision). He just when on with his day and sure enough it came true before his eyes. I have had similar things to have happened to me. The time lapse of the triggering of the memory would play into whether it is a deja vu or a vision. Witnesses would help give us have a peace of mind as well. Could we be repeating an endless cycle through deja vus? That would be scary. Such a cycle sounds like a sort of robotic hell (never really getting any where). A cycle of love and spiritual growth sounds like free will and true consciousness.
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1. Dreams
Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream comes through much activity,
Ecclesiastes 5:7 For in the multitude of dreams [and many words] there is also vanity.
5:3 Dreams are often the products of natural anxieties, cares, and concerns, with little meaning behind them.
5:7 The line could be translated, "For many useless things and words [come] in an abundance of dreams."
2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
1:7 The spirit of fear may find a place by reason of one's natural temperament, but it is not merely a human disposition; it is not from God, and it can immobilize and torment its victims, making them feel powerless and alone.
2. Prophetic dreams and visions
Genesis 37:5 Now Joseph had a dream, and he told it to his brothers; and they hated him even more.
37:5 Dreams that are from God are spiritual experiences that root deep in our hearts, never to be forgotten.
3. Sign
2 Kings 20:9-11 Then Isaiah said, "This is the sign to you from the LORD, that the LORD will do the thing which He has spoken: shall the shadow go forward ten degrees or go backward ten degrees?" And Hezekiah answered, "It is an easy thing for the shadow to go down ten degrees [Lit. steps]; no, but let the shadow go backward ten degrees." So Isaiah the prophet cried out to the LORD, and He brought the shadow ten degrees [Lit. steps] backward, by which it had gone down on the sundial of Ahaz.
20:9-11 A stairway, which acted as a sundial, had been constructed during the reign of Ahaz.
4. Signs and lying wonders
2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:9 Not every "miracle" comes from God, nor are such wonders any less miraculous because of their origin.
Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream comes through much activity,
Ecclesiastes 5:7 For in the multitude of dreams [and many words] there is also vanity.
5:3 Dreams are often the products of natural anxieties, cares, and concerns, with little meaning behind them.
5:7 The line could be translated, "For many useless things and words [come] in an abundance of dreams."
2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
1:7 The spirit of fear may find a place by reason of one's natural temperament, but it is not merely a human disposition; it is not from God, and it can immobilize and torment its victims, making them feel powerless and alone.
2. Prophetic dreams and visions
Genesis 37:5 Now Joseph had a dream, and he told it to his brothers; and they hated him even more.
37:5 Dreams that are from God are spiritual experiences that root deep in our hearts, never to be forgotten.
3. Sign
2 Kings 20:9-11 Then Isaiah said, "This is the sign to you from the LORD, that the LORD will do the thing which He has spoken: shall the shadow go forward ten degrees or go backward ten degrees?" And Hezekiah answered, "It is an easy thing for the shadow to go down ten degrees [Lit. steps]; no, but let the shadow go backward ten degrees." So Isaiah the prophet cried out to the LORD, and He brought the shadow ten degrees [Lit. steps] backward, by which it had gone down on the sundial of Ahaz.
20:9-11 A stairway, which acted as a sundial, had been constructed during the reign of Ahaz.
4. Signs and lying wonders
2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:9 Not every "miracle" comes from God, nor are such wonders any less miraculous because of their origin.
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No not a lot. I was thinking about the subject last night and decided to start the thread.
There have been the times where whatever was happening seemed familiar, like it had happened before. Like someone mentioned, that fleeting moment.
The past few times, over a period of time, those moments seem more 'intense' in that there's more to it. Like bits of conversations and such. There have been times when I knew what someone was going to say or do before they said or did it. So, I'm not sure about the memory explanation because these things had never happened before.
I have never heard anyone speak of deja vu in a spiritual sense and wondered if anyone thought it could be.
We all hear from God in different ways.
Jesus did what He saw the Father do. I've wondered exactly how that 'worked'. How did He see the Father do what He Himself was about to do?
I'm not saying it was 'deja vu'. But the times I've experienced it recently have me wondering about this more than I ever did before.
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I would think a vision is something you would remember having and then when it happened you would know it was the vision.
The times I have experienced this haven't been like that. I don't 'remember' it until it happens then while I'm experiencing it I suddenly know what is going to be said or happen.
I know most people experience things like this. I don't have them real often but the most recent ones have been..different..than before. It's hard to explain.
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That's what I was wondering.
When I get deja vu's, I tend to be more annoyed, that I have been tricked. My sense of reality has been jostled. When I have a vision, even if it doesn't have an anointed feel, I sense there is an imperative. I have a knowing that this is different and outside of myself.
Sometimes I get short (flat) visions that are as abrupt as deja vu's, but they do not relate to anything that I normally think about. This year I have had some that interrupt other thoughts or dreams. My deja vu's, on the other hand, are usually about people and places that I know.
Also, sometimes I get dreams that are so based on normal life that I think they happened. Truly annoying. I usually know within a minute of waking up, but can't guarantee that this won't degrade into unreality when I'm elderly.
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