Originally posted by armothe
Well, there we go. We both believe that Christians have gone/will go through the tribulation. It's a start.
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Originally posted by armothe
If all evil in the world is due to Satan, and mankind is 100% good. Then why did God bother sending Christ to die for our sins?
I've never encountered any. Hollywood would have us believe there are, but I've never seen any, nor have I ever spoken to anyone who has seen a demon or knows of a demon possession.
The judgement happened in the 1st century- at least that is what I believe.
To stamp out evil (your definition) God would have to destroy the universe so that there would be no more death, famines, tornadoes, solar winds, volcanic erruptions, supernovas...etc.
...don't take my word for it. I've learned to listen to other's beliefs, but to search the scriptures for the truth.
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Originally posted by Evee
So the things that Go on is our own evil?
Has nothing to do with Satan?
So why is there people like Jeffery Dahmers and Hitlers?
I thought it was because of Satan being an influence.
There is people that are possed by demons right?
When is the Great white throne Judgement.
So if God can't or won't stamp out evil what is he going to do?
Originally posted by JesusServant
No one is saying mankind is 100% good.
I have witnessed demonic possession.
Originally posted by Evee
My questions has not been satisfactorily answered.
I want be back posting here it is a bummer.
Originally posted by parousia70
Please elaborate? Was this a documented case, and if so, in what publication might I find a record of it?
How exactly did you determine it was a demonic posession?
Originally posted by parousia70
The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that sin entered the world through man. (Rom.5:12)
The Bible, and therefore preterism...
.The Bible, and therefore preterism, .... wicked above all else.(Jer.17:9)
Like Armothe, I do not personally know of any, but I do know Satan and Demons have no power or authority over those in Christ. Victory is ours, total and complete.
The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that "it is appointed for man once to die, and after this, the judgement" (Hebrews 9:27)
The Great white throne Judgement was instituted in 70AD, when the dead saints were resurreted out of hades into God's presence and the wicked dead were thrown into the lake of fire, and continues today, "each in his own order".
God stamped out evil 2000 years ago for believers, and since at no point will unbelievers ever share in Christs victory over it, we can confidently proclaim Evil has been totaly defeated.
The Victory is here!
Originally posted by JesusServant
You do realize, that preterism teaches there is no great tribulation to come right? Just checking...
Originally posted by JesusServant
Anyone who calls the Holy Bible preterism is already set in their ways.
You have one thing right, when Christ died on the cross he did overcome satan and our victory is in Him. But it will be on earth one day as He comes for his bride.
Originally posted by JesusServant
It was of a personal nature, it wasn't "publicated" and it wasn't "proven with logic by science", you'll just have to take me at my word. And if you don't that's fine, it's the truth. I know no one finds honor in their word anymore. But I do.
Originally posted by JesusServant
In the private PM's you sent me trying to convert me, you said, "show me some scripture that proves me wrong, I'd like to see it and adjust my views accordingly" (paraphrased) You were either lying or misleading.
Originally posted by JesusServant
You do realize, that preterism teaches there is no great tribulation to come right? Just checking...
Originally posted by parousia70
I have no desire to "convert" you, or anyone. It makes no difference to me if you are preterist or futurist. It has no bearing on salvation.
Again, the so called "proof" you have offered is no such thing.
Your "Proof" It is akin to me citing Jesus comand that we be "Born again" as proof that we must physically pass through our mothers womb a 2nd time.
You have no respect for biblical precident, you are merely reading your 21st century fantasys into a 1st century document.
Originally posted by Evee
Hey Armothe I read Revelation 21 and there is no way that all this has happened here on earth.
We still have oceans they have not passed away.
We are still dying and crying and there is still pain.
It has not gone forever.
Originally posted by Evee
I was not going to reply again but I just couldn't help myself. Evee
Originally posted by JesusServant
What fanasies? I do not believe in 21st or 22nd century anything. You, like armothe ASSUME that I do. If you would take time to read what people write and not read INTO what they write you'd already know this about me my friend.
(Revelation 21:1) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.(Revelation 21:2) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.(Revelation 21:3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
(Revelation 21:4) And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
If you call this, Revelation 21, a fantasy then what do you call the rest of Revelation? I believe this is a promise of Jesus Christ to me, his servant, along with many many many other servants. And if you think being born again is being reborn in the womb then you haven't read all of John 3. You sound like Nicodemus. God bless.