How many of you creationists...

AV1611VET said:

but I sure don't plan on letting you spread any Godless scientific rhetoric unchecked, either.

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The irony in this statement is hysterical.

AV1611VET said:

Fair enough --- it'll certainly simplify this conversation, won't it?

I'm not sure why you're here then, but I sure don't plan on letting you spread any Godless scientific rhetoric unchecked, either.

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but she has a christian symbol next to her name. how could she possibly spread "Godless scientific rhetoric"? Because you know, that's really my department.

I know many christains that have no problem reconsidering their beliefs with modern science.

MoonLancer said:

I know many christains that have no problem reconsidering their beliefs with modern science.

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They do it by subordinating the Bible to Science.

I do just the opposite --- giving God the preeminence, not Mother Nature.

I'm wondering when I'll start having terrifying nightmares about banana's.

AV1611VET said:

I do just the opposite --- giving God the preeminence, not Mother Nature.

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Because God is the author of Mother Nature, signed with His own signature, I think your missing the boat.

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AV1611VET said:

Fair enough --- it'll certainly simplify this conversation, won't it?

I'm not sure why you're here then, but I sure don't plan on letting you spread any Godless scientific rhetoric unchecked, either.

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Why would I spread anything Godless? I believe in God and in Jesus. I just don't believe in talking snakes and fairy tales.

I really suggest you read Finding Darwin's God if you're so open minded toward science. Or how about reading Francis Collins's book The Language of God for that matter?

OldStyleBlues said:

What I want to know is a banana still the Atheists nightmare?

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AV1611VET said:

They do it by subordinating the Bible to Science.

I do just the opposite --- giving God the preeminence, not Mother Nature.

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You yourself said that the Bible is not a scientific textbook. And it's clearly not. It doesn't teach us a thing about the cosmos at large nor does it teach us anything about quantum physics.

If one believes that God created the Earth and the heavens, then surely the Earth and the heavens are God's primary work. Study of the Earth and the heavens should be foundational. Placing an object such as the Bible before them is idolotry.

AV1611VET said:

They do it by subordinating the Bible to Science.

I do just the opposite --- giving God the preeminence, not Mother Nature.

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I think you mean that they do it by subordinating your flawed interpretation of scripture to reality. You do the opposite. You give preemenence to your flawed interpretation of scripture and call it "God's Word."

LightSeaker said:

Because God is the author of Mother Nature, signed with His own signature, I think your missing the boat.

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I happen to have a copy of His diary (as I'm sure you do too), and It says Mother Nature is hostile to His creation.

For one thing, we tend not to live nearly as long.

loveiseverywhere said:

I really suggest you read Finding Darwin's God if you're so open minded toward science. Or how about reading Francis Collins's book The Language of God for that matter?

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No, thanks.

If, after having read those books, it led you to call it a "talking snake" --- I'll pass.

Mother Nature IS His creation.

AV1611VET said:

I happen to have a copy of His diary (as I'm sure you do too), and It says Mother Nature is hostile to His creation.

For one thing, we tend not to live nearly as long.

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Hmmm... which part of that "diary" did God write with his own hands??

AV1611VET said:

No, thanks.

If, after having read those books, it led you to call it a "talking snake" --- I'll pass.

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The Bible is what led me to call it a talking snake. According to the Bible, this magic snake developed the ability to speak to humans via vocal chords that snakes are not known to have.

loveiseverywhere said:

You yourself said that the Bible is not a scientific textbook. And it's clearly not. It doesn't teach us a thing about the cosmos at large nor does it teach us anything about quantum physics.

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And yet, through faith, we understand more than those who prefer science:

Hebrews 11:3 said:

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

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Why do you suppose that is?

loveiseverywhere said:

If one believes that God created the Earth and the heavens, then surely the Earth and the heavens are God's primary work. Study of the Earth and the heavens should be foundational.

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You can study all you want --- but if you do it from a uniformitarian perspective --- well --- as my mother used to say: "Study long - study wrong."

loveiseverywhere said:

Placing an object such as the Bible before them is idolotry.

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I've already shown from the Scriptures how you guys tend to subordinate retaining God in your knowledge to retaining nature in your knowledge is a form of worship.

You even have your own bibles: The 2009 McGraw-Hill Bible --- [constantly-updated version].

loveiseverywhere said:

Mother Nature IS His creation.

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She is?

Show me entropy in Genesis 1.

Split Rock said:

Hmmm... which part of that "diary" did God write with his own hands??

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You don't know the principles of amanuensis, do you?

But to answer your question (sorta) --- God autographed 4 things --- can you name them?

loveiseverywhere said:

The Bible is what led me to call it a talking snake.

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Oh, my --- okay --- no comment here.

AV1611VET said:

She is?

Show me entropy in Genesis 1.

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Here it is,
For a star to work, hydrogen fusion is required. This necessitates a release of heat, which causes an increase in the universe's entropy. Thus God set in motion the processes by which the universe's entropy is increased. It is of no theological consequence, at least not when we recognize that entropy has no morality associated with it.

AV1611VET said:

She is?

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Yes. All of Creation, every bit of it, is a Created by God.

Show me entropy in Genesis 1.

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Just look up from those words on paper and look at God's own Creation and what it is showing us.



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