Flat Earth Myth

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Originally posted by lucaspa
Now, your claim was "I can not find anything, anywhere, that would suggest that anyone ever though the earth was flat."  Note, the "anyone ever".  The above falsifies that. Also note the "I cannot find anything, anywhere ".  I have falsified that by 30 seconds worth of Google search.

In order to falsify the statement, the statement would have to read, that there is no one anywere. I said I can not find anyone anywhere. The statement is not false.

I am careful with the way I word things. The truth always establishes itself with no effort on my part. Falsehoods have to be perpetuated and that requires effort.

People with the truth, will always wear down people who perpetuate falsehoods. If they stay with the truth.

Galatians 6:9 And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.

The great saints of God never gave up. They continued to represent the truth, tell they were called home to their reward.

1 Tim. 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.



 
 
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Quite interesting FoD. I really liked this picture:


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Originally posted by JohnR7
In order to falsify the statement, the statement would have to read, that there is no one anywere. I said I can not find anyone anywhere. The statement is not false.

Reminds me of a couple Slick Willy quotes:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

"That depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
 
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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie
Reminds me of a couple Slick Willy quotes:

Yep, just because you infidels are so good at finding that stuff, does not mean I am good at finding it. You have to look at who is leading you and who is leading me. I am lead by God and He does not show me the way to junk like that.

Psalm 14:1 
    The fool has said in his heart,
    "There is no God."

Psalm 14:2-3
    The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
    To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
    [3] They have all turned aside,
    They have together become corrupt;
    There is none who does good,
    No, not one.   


 
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
Yep, just because you infidels

Correction: That is just your private interpertation of scripture.

i think that just about sums up your opinion of anything we find that is NOT in the bible and NOT interpreted exactly the way you, or your preacher, sees it.
 
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Originally posted by Orihalcon
i think that just about sums up your opinion of anything we find that is NOT in the bible and NOT interpreted exactly the way you, or your preacher, sees it.

Yes. but where are the miracles? God shows who is approved and who is not. Because the truth is shown with power and a demonstration of the miracles and healings of God.
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
Because the truth is shown with power and a demonstration of the miracles and healings of God.

Prove it. There's a million bucks for your church if you can. Use it for ministry, or to feed the poor, or to buy Kent Hovind videos for every member of the NAS.

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
Yep, just because you infidels are so good at finding that stuff, does not mean I am good at finding it. You have to look at who is leading you and who is leading me. I am lead by God and He does not show me the way to junk like that.

But the "junk" is true.  So is God leading you away from truth?

Or maybe God isn't showing you how to search the web very well.  Are you saying that mere mortals are better at searching the web than God is?

Maybe you're just embarrassed that your claim was so quickly refuted?

The moral of my three rhetorical questions is:  when you overstep your claim, admit it.  Don't blame your god for your own shortcomings.
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
God shows who is approved and who is not. Because the truth is shown with power and a demonstration of the miracles and healings of God.

How about even one small miracle, something current and not something that the UFO abductees use.   Why doesn't god do something to prove his existance?   That "faith" or "he is unfathomable to human intelligence" lines are getting old.

How does god show who is approved?  Haven't seen any USDA checkmarks on foreheads, I will guess they are "invisible".

Where are the miracles and healings of god?  Other than the psychosomatic.  Any limbs regrown, ya know,  something really cool.
 
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Originally posted by Noek

How does god show who is approved?  Haven't seen any USDA checkmarks on foreheads, I will guess they are "invisible". 


It is not a mark you can see.

Ezekiel 9:4 and the Lord said to him, "Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it."


 
 
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Originally posted by Sauron
The moral of my three rhetorical questions is:  when you overstep your claim, admit it.  Don't blame your god for your own shortcomings.

*la la la i can't hear you* *what i think is true la la la you are just a figment of my imagination*
 
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Originally posted by Noek
Where are the miracles and healings of god? 

What are you blind? God performs miracles and healings all the time. How do you expect Him to perform any miracles in your life if you can not see Him working in the lives of others? You have to have faith to believe to receive from God.

Hebrews 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

James 1:6-7 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. [7] For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;

Somewhere along the way YOU are going to need a miracle, and you better be prepared to know how to receive one.


 


 
 
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Originally posted by Orihalcon
*la la la i can't hear you* *what i think is true la la la you are just a figment of my imagination*

Matthew 13:15-16  For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. [16] But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Yep, at least you admit, you have ears that do not hear, eyes that do not see, and a heart that lacks understanding.
 
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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie
Prove it. There's a million bucks for your church if you can.

A million dollar if you can convert a skeptic? All the money in the world will perish, so what good is money?

Acts 8:20  But Peter said to him, "Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!


 
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
All the money in the world will perish, so what good is money?

Acts 8:20 But Peter said to him, "Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!
LOL! Tell that to the faith healer you support, Ernest Angley.
 
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Originally posted by Neo
LOL! Tell that to the faith healer you support, Ernest Angley.

Ernest Angley is not a healer, God does the healing. He does not touch the gold and he does not touch the glory of God.

The day will come, when your going to need something from God, and you better be prepared to know how to receive what you need. All Ernest Angley does is help people to show them how to receive all of what God has for them.
 
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