Girl Kissing Catholic Media Priest becomes Episcopal

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I think this is one tradition the Catholic Church should seriously reconsider. As admirable as it is, the gift of Celibacy is just that a gift. I think this would also address the current shortage of men entering the Priesthood, I willing to bet it would skyrocket if this was lifted.
 
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I think this is one tradition the Catholic Church should seriously reconsider. As admirable as it is, the gift of Celibacy is just that a gift. I think this would also address the current shortage of men entering the Priesthood, I willing to bet it would skyrocket if this was lifted.

Enforced celibacy is only in the Latin rite. All of the other rites allow married priests. Of course, the Latin rite also happens to be the biggest...

My guess is that it will be changed eventually, but the Catholic Church is not the fastest-moving organization on the planet.
 
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The non-Latin rites are only prevalent in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. Even then the Eastern Rite Catholics are still a minority.

In the US, non-Latin clergy are forbidden to be married. They must be single.

But as always, there are exceptions. Anglican Use parishes are the biggest, but there are other exceptions--mostly in eastern Catholic parishes.
 
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He gets banned from becoming a Catholic preist but Yet He is still a priest.. Goes to show you that God does not bend to man made rules.. :)

that is a rather one sided bold statement. Alot of Non Denom and Fundamental Church's have a no alchol rules for membership in there parish's charter. What if a Preacher was caught having a drink. Then he was thrown out of the Church and became a Preacher in another Church that didn't have this man made rule?

ahh the double standards just keep coming. :p
 
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I think this is one tradition the Catholic Church should seriously reconsider. As admirable as it is, the gift of Celibacy is just that a gift. I think this would also address the current shortage of men entering the Priesthood, I willing to bet it would skyrocket if this was lifted.

Well, then you would have to explain why we also have a shortage of Deacons (who are not called to celibacy). The shortage of priests has far more to do with the secularization of Western culture than it does with the discipline of priestly celibacy. Sure, there might be an increase in those applying for the priesthood if the Church relaxed that requirement, but the real problem behind the shortage lies much deeper, imo.

Think of it this way...back a century ago there was no shortage of priests. Right? But back then the Church still required celibacy (in the Roman Rite) - just like now. So what has changed? Well...our CULTURE has changed. It is now more secular. And what does a more secular culture bring with it? A whole host of problems and ills. The problem is not a celibate priesthood - rather - the problem is a culture that is seduced by sex (sex is a good thing and a gift given to us by God) to the degree where it no longer values the benefit of putting it aside for another good (celibacy and self-sacrifice).

The solution isn't putting a band-aid on the problem (i.e., relaxing the celibacy discipline), but rather finding a real solution (i.e., combating against secularization of our culture).

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The solution isn't putting a band-aid on the problem (i.e., relaxing the celibacy discipline), but rather finding a real solution (i.e., combating against secularization of our culture).
I agree, that would be the only solution.
It would also apply to all the wrongs and sins committed by us today.
 
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that is a rather one sided bold statement. Alot of Non Denom and Fundamental Church's have a no alchol rules for membership in there parish's charter. What if a Preacher was caught having a drink. Then he was thrown out of the Church and became a Preacher in another Church that didn't have this man made rule?

ahh the double standards just keep coming. :p
Don't know which denom you are talking about.. For it is not what goes into the body that makes you unclean but what comes out of the mouth. For the Kingdom of God is not in food or drink..
 
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that is a rather one sided bold statement. Alot of Non Denom and Fundamental Church's have a no alchol rules for membership in there parish's charter. What if a Preacher was caught having a drink. Then he was thrown out of the Church and became a Preacher in another Church that didn't have this man made rule?

ahh the double standards just keep coming. :p

You have proof that MamaZ's group has such a rule ?
 
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He gets banned from becoming a Catholic preist but Yet He is still a priest.. Goes to show you that God does not bend to man made rules.. :)

That's because you don't understand the orthodox doctrine of imputed characteristics.

Once ordained, you are ordained. You could later be defrocked and inhibited from performing as an ordained minister, but you do not loose your holy orders. The reason is because by doing so, you eliminate the possibility of forgiveness and mercy; the reconciliation of a penitent is part of the very heart of Christian belief.

So it isn't man-made. Your implied Montanism is, but defrocking and inhibitions are fully in line with Christian belief and practice.
 
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No where in scripture is it ever stated that a man of the clergy cannot be married.. We read that elder Pastors are to be one woman men not no women men..
You are quite correct.

The scriptures also do not require the clergy to be married. There is also nothing found which keeps priests from taking a vow of celibacy.
 
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