What's wrong with Jesus?

Nazi troops were issued buckles which read, "Gott mit uns" - "God with us."

The SS were extremely far from Christian. The SS were the ones most involved in the NAzi Gay subculture, and as soneone mentioned were heavily, heavily into the occult. They had big secret initiation ceremonies, etc.

I don't believe Hitler had much use for Jesus, to tell the truth. He was more interested in the Norse gods, with their warrior ethic. Remember that Hitler killed alot of Priests and other Christians.

 

As regards the issue of Jews' response to Jesus, I believe that it is mainly due to a knee-jerk response stemming from ignorance and misdirected anger.

As a Jewish child, I was told that Jesus was a "harlot-monger" and sundry other falsities. Generation after generation is taught such nonsense. Sometimes the anger is appropriate: Martin Luther did say those terrible things about how to treat Jews, John Chrysostom also is on record as having said some of the most hateful things about Jews also.

I find it interesting that a Jew who becomes a Buddhist, atheist, or Communist usually retains good relatione with his family, but a Jew (such as myself) who accepts Christ is made an outcast and is considered crazy, or to have joined a "cult."

 

 

 

Interesting overview Matthew. I enjoyed perspective.

Matthew: I know many who have had the same experience. Some in my own liniage.

God's Word says..."But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; "
( 1 Corinthians 1:23 KJV )


Love in Christ,
Nita

Originally posted by Br. Max
 

FYI: the Inquisition had authority ONLY over the Baptized.  The only "Jews" who were EVER brought before the inquisition were those accused of having made FALSE conversions.  The legends of those put to death by the inquisition are GREATLY exagerated.

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1.) Every Jew who converted was treated as suspicious. But then so was every Jew who didn't convert. Just like Hitler killed all Jews, not only those who were religiously Jewish - even those who had converted to Christianity or were atheists. Religious practice has seldom mattered when it comes to anti-Semitism.

2.) Your assertions contradict everything I've ever read about the Inquisition. You may be correct, but I'll need sources for your information before I can evaluate it for myself.

 

The Nazis kept excellent records of everything they did. They were especially proud of their spiffy uniforms. There are hundreds of military reference books detailing every facet of the Nazi uniforms. In addition, Nazi memorabilia is a huge business with many, many collectors. I used to be a military collector myself, before I enlisted in the Army.

Therefore, we do not rely upon eyewitness accounts of Nazi regalia.

So if there are any SS belt buckles which have the name of Jesus on them, they (or, at the very least, pictures of them) should be very, very easy to find.

If you can show me one, I'll be happy to eat my words. 

I think the fundemantal reason that Orthodox Jews are offended with Christ, is because they don't believe He is the true Messiah.

But in the meanwhile... they worship Him!!! Don´t forget that

Orthodox Jews do not worship Christ. Where are you getting this?

Hajjj Pray4Isrel,

You are right because Yeshua is G´d, but ...

... The Jews worship Adonai (YHVH; I AM) and HaSjem (The ´Name´ and that ìs YHVH; I AM). I try to explain. I´m not that good with English, but I´ll try...

YHVH is The Name like we know as ´I AM´: And God said unto Moses: 'I AM THAT I AM' (YHVH/Adonai/HaSjem); and He said: 'Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent&nbsp;Me unto you.'&nbsp; And God said moreover unto Moses: 'Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: The LORD (Adonai/HaSjem; the Name), the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this is My name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.&nbsp; <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: NL; mso-fareast-language: NL; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Exodus 3:14 + 15 </SPAN>

Yeshua said in John 8:58: ´I AM´
Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am!". They worship Yeshua, because Yehsua IS I AM in Person, but they do not see because of the blindness G´d gave to them so the gentiles could be also saved in His Glorious Name! G´d the Father is YHVH El Sjaddai/El Eljon. G´d is ONE is YHVH Elohiem (the Holy Trinity: YHVH El Sjaddai, YHVH Yeshua and the Roeach HaKodesh).
Well, Yeshua said He is the only Way! It is not accident Mosje heard Yeshua (I AM) in that particular bush...

Well I´ll put 1 and 2 together:
&nbsp;And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born. Zach. 12:10
And so all Israel shall be saved, as it is written: "There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. Rom.&nbsp;11:26
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Baruch Shem Yeshua HaAdon k´vod Mal´chuto l´olam va´ed.&nbsp;

(Blessed the Holy Name Yeshua HaAdon of His Kingdom for ever).

Shalom

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Originally posted by Bruno
But why do Orthodox Jews NOT believe Jesus is the Mesiah. That's what I don't understand. What did He do to make them doubt Him???

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Here's a great site to visit if you really want to know why Observant Jews do not believe that Jesus is Messiah:

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/j4j-2000/html/reflib/knowbase.html

(Scroll down a bit for the topics.)

Also feel free to browse the rest of their site: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/j4j-2000/index.html

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for my family- they dont believe in y'shua because they dont really know enough about what he did, his life, etc.

also, there were so many false calls before the Lord gave us his son.The jews were tricked so many times, what means that this time it is any different?

Matthew,

You have come up with some imformative stuff on this thread and many others.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Bruno
Why are Jewish people so offended by Jesus Christ? I have Jewish friends and just a mention of Jesus makes&nbsp;them cringe. Has He done anything wrong according to the New Testament?

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i am sure that someone already talked about this little nit-picky thing, but i find it important to mention and i couldnt find anyone else who already talked about it. sooo.......

Bruno- talking about christ to your jewish friends can be difficult for all of the reasons that others have mentioned, but in your question you mentioned the new testament.

growing up i was not allowed to read the new testament. we didnt talk about it, i knew that it was the bible of jesus, but i dont know much more than that until college.

According to the NT, y'shua hasnt done anything wrong, but a lot of jews dont know that. they havent read the NT, they dont know what is in it, they dont know that y'shua hasnt done anything wrong.

for me, when i was first allowed access to the NT, i debated reading it for some time. that was when the lord softened my heart. a series of blessings and blessings in disguise led me to faith. i still had read very little from the NT, but i&nbsp;believe that if i had been allowed access as a child i would have become a believer earlier, and maybe wouldnt have gone through so much troubled water. but g'd has a time and a place for everything.

Very well said, Noa!&nbsp; And your English is fine!

So basically you and TheBear were saying the same thing.

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Tnx Pray

Higher Truth, thank you for your kind words.

I heard a discussion on the radio (UK) on this topic which included Jewish people (including Rabbis), and the general view was that they don't particularly have a problem with Jesus, it's Paul who's the greatest problem to them.

^how so?^