Hostile
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: of or relating to an enemy <
hostile fire> b
: marked by malevolence <a
hostile act> c
: openly opposed or resisting <a
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hostile to new ideas> d (1)
: not hospitable <plants growing in a
hostile environment> (2)
: having an intimidating, antagonistic, or offensive nature <a
hostile workplace>
Sexual orientation is not a sin. Please be clear on that fact.
Depending on how you present that argument, I'd probably be inclined to agree, but the phrase "please by clear on that fact" is presumptuous and hostile.
What do you mean 'abolished'? You mean like slavery? Or the law to execute disobedient children? Or God's 4th-commandment concerning the Sabbath? What?
What in the world is slavery to do with this? Or laws executing children. This is not only hostile, but utterly ignorant. When you take a statement and liken in to unrelated issues as if you were accusing them of something, that is hostile.
Here is a relevant scripture:
Luke 21:12-17
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
KJV
It was predicted in the Bible that Christianity would be abolished? Which scripture says that?
Rev 13:15-17
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
KJV
Newsflash! The Bible is not necessary for one to possess a Jesus-like heart. In many cases, as we have seen thru'out history, the Bible has been the reason behind much strife ...even though PEOPLE and NOT the Bible were the cause. Even from a Christian perspective there are hundreds of different Christian denominations that differ on BIBLE interpretations. The Bible should be used as a guide ...NOT as a religious icon!
Newsflash? I've received counseling PM's for less. This entire response is hostile and off topic. No one ever said you could not love someone without a Bible in your hand, or that things had not happened in the past in God's name that were not Godly, but your assertions as to what is and is not Godly, fashioned as they are from the arguments of other people, are no more worthy than those in the Bible, and indeed I can not help but wonder why anyone would argue that the Bible is not a much more reliable source than you, or Bishop Spong, or anyone else?
If a church is not being productive in the 'love' department, then it probably needs to be torn down.
And I suppose you shall judge whose churches are to fall. In any event, how do you not see the hostility here?
I generally find it better not to respond to rhetoric, especially when it's rhetoric that is driven by pure emotion.
You complain that your post was dismissed, yet this is as dismissive and, yes.... hostile an attitude towards someone's statement as you might complain of having suffered, and more so.
I believe in Jesus. I tell you what, if you can point me to ONE text where Jesus had something to say about gay freedom I might consider joining you in your condemnation of if. Deal?
God gave the law, and Jesus is God. Do you not believe this? Where does this constant demand for something in red letters come from? It is illegitimate, and yes, hostile. Whenever you demand something unreasonable of someone, and then turn around and blame them for not producing it, that is hostile.
Nor can homosexuals. Isn't that the whole point of what we're discussing?
According to God, they can.
1 Cor 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
KJV
I see people full of the Spirit before every football game. They are pumped! Is this of the 'Holy' Spirit or is it caused by adrenaline? Some view 'on fire' or 'over-the-top' Christians as being so unrealistically hyped up that science can explain it with a cause other than that of an infilling of the Holy Spirit. Those that I've met who I would say are 'genuine' Christians or 'convincing' Christians are those who behave quite 'normally' other than they exude much warmth and love and total lack of condemnation for others. Yes, there ARE Christians like that. From the little that I've seen of him, I would say that Bishop John Shelby Spong is representative of a convincing Christian.
Are you likening the work of the Holy Spirit to people getting drunk and excited? Did you even read her writing before you responded. You tore what is essentially one idea -- that since she repented of sin she has renewed her sense of the presence of the Holy Spirit, and turned it into a farce. You are essentially demeaning the experience she is sharing with you. Not hostile? I guess... in your world... maybe...?
But, again ...a homosexual orientation is not a sin to begin with so why should one feel the need to repent? This is silly.
This really just becomes baiting if you repeat it over and over without support. It should be clear enough by now that many simply do not accept the excuses you give for why homosexuals supposedly cannot resist sin whereas the rest of us are required to do so.
What's clear to you? That you should kill victims of rape? kill disobedient children? Stone to death adulterers ...but only females? 
dishonor the Sabbath by instead keeping the 'man-made holy day', Sunday? What?
This is the second time in one post you just start going off on tangents basically insulting the intelligence of the person you are talking to. Yes, it feels hostile.....
What I just mentioned - and much more nasty stuff - is in the Bible to be read and obeyed. Which parts are clear to you and which parts did you toss out or ignore?
You'd get more answers to your questions if you left off mocking people. I cannot answer for her, but I can answer for me.
Acts 15:19-20
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood .
KJV
This and the verses which make clear salvation is by faith through grace in Jesus explain what is and is not required. For Jews, there was never any injunction that they should abandon the law, but rather to cease making the law the focus, or requiring both Christ and the law.
Nice, as long as you do so without ignoring the reality about LIFE and PEOPLE and not couching everything of a complex nature into some warm and fuzzy belief system that relies purely on faith.
The same faith you say you share? You do not see this statement in any way as dismissive and hostile?
If Satan - or God for that matter - causes people to do things against their will then they should seek therapy ASAP. Satan is not to blame for wrong-doing ...people are! I would say the same thing about God in regard to 'right-doing'. People are responsible for their own actions. 'The Devil made me do it' is an expression of children ...not adults.
She appears to be talking about the inner reasoning that led her to sin. It's an exceedingly common way of referencing temptations, and is Biblical. Accusing her of being a "child" is hostile.
We all have something deep within - a conscience if you like - that MAY WELL be God-given. Yes, the words that are written concerning Jesus, a caring friend, a considerate church family, etc. can bring about a change of heart from bad to good. And, of course, this is terrific if that's what 'the sinner' desires. It's a personal thing. But, homosexuality per se is NOT a bad thing so a 'change of heart' or a 'change of orientation' (?) is entirely unneccesary. One's sexual orientation should not be something that is dependent upon ANYONE to 'change'.
What we have is the Spirit of God speaking to us, showing us the nature of God. It is absolutely from God. The rest of this is just you asserting your opinion as fact. I do not have a huge problem with that, but in polite discussion people often acknowledge back and forth to one another that they realize the other does not see things the same way.
Great. But what does that have to do with homosexuality?
Turn wholeheartedly to God, repent, and He will give you this sort of life experience.
Why would she not want to reply to you? Because you butcher everything she says, say hostile, unrelated things, accuse her of being childish and judgmental, and then presumptuously present your opinion as fact.
Aside from all of that, no one is obliged to speak to you anyway, and someone saying they find you abrupt and hostile should be more a sign for you to say, "Well I didn't mean to be if I was," or some such rather than to treat the person you've been insulting as if
you are the offended party. Sure, maybe in your opinion and the opinions of others she was being hypersensitive, and I am not saying your post is so horrid I would want to report it or anything, but how in the world you do not recognize some of what you do here as hostile is beyond me.
If you want to discuss things with a certain brand of person, you have to be willing to speak to them on their own terms, or they will retreat from you. It is not their job to accomodate you any more than it is yours to accomodate them.
