Jesus Jargon--Is it necessary?

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Svt4Him

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Now if there was any logic to your statement, I'd ask you to show a case I was actually trying to prove, but I know that would be unfair of me to actually ask someone to back their claim because that's asking too much and is too logically sound. So I'll just admit I was wrong in my case, and the point I was making was way off, sorry about that.
 
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Actually jimbo, the question was where has someone painted themselves into a corner. As for my statement, I have already shown where Jesus said He only does what He sees His father in heaven do, as well as Paul's statement, those would be evidence of my claim. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure I have to side with God when He said seek first the Kingdom of God, then everything else will be added. Is that enough evidence? Not only that, but you'd find I did not say it as a statement of fact, unlike 'that's a common tactic when people paint themselves into a corner.'

But you didn't answer the question, is it a common avoidance tactic?

Or, lest we be distracted, it could mean you are deliberately trying to derail this thread, which, if I could remind you, is about “Jesus jargon” not proving some inane point about people painting themselves into corners (which they do).

Let’s try to stay on topic. :cool:

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“We were made not primarily that we may love God but that God may love us. ~C.S. Lewis
 
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jimbo, you keep accusing me of going off topic. Do I need to remind you it was you who said this in your thread, I simply asked you to show were. To not means that your statement in this thread is actually off topic because you have yet to show one time where it was done. So accuse me of it if you like, I simply like to expose fallacies, and shifting the burden of proof is a fallacy, so are stereotypical statements. So we can stop pointing out the fallacies as soon as you stop saying them.
 
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Evidence was asked of Jimbeaux but I will provide it since it was targeted at one of my posts. The poster asks where they went off topic...I say right here. There was not the topic of discussion and the poster started nit picking by making allegations that had nothing to do with the OP. You owe Jimbeaux and myself an apology for the rudeness.

You didn't say repent? Wow, so the message of the Kingdom was just forgotten simply to be real. I guess Jesus would also not be allowed in to some of these churches, as technically every word He'd say would be the Word of God. Weird if you think of it like that.

It was a deliberate twist as ususal and I don't care if I get kicked off of the forum because of crap like this. Intelligent discussions are one thing but digs are another and this was a dig.
 
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Evidence was asked of Jimbeaux but I will provide it since it was targeted at one of my posts. The poster asks where they went off topic...I say right here. There was not the topic of discussion and the poster started nit picking by making allegations that had nothing to do with the OP. You owe Jimbeaux and myself an apology for the rudeness.



It was a deliberate twist as ususal and I don't care if I get kicked off of the forum because of crap like this. Intelligent discussions are one thing but digs are another and this was a dig.

reps for you, maam.
 
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As for car bumper stickers or t-shirts, I don't have a problem with most of the Jesus jargon phrases on them, unless the phrase on the sticker or t-shirt points to a theology I disagree with, of course. ;)

To me this reminds my of that t-shirt you told me once about Jimbo. The one that says "I am the wretch that song is about". Couldn't we include that statement with some of these other phrases? Isn't the point of these kind of t-shirts or bumper stickers to get people thinking, or to plant a seed in the their minds?

"Plant a seed", a good Jesus Jargon phrase? I think so.
 
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To me this reminds my of that t-shirt you told me once about Jimbo. The one that says "I am the wretch that song is about".

I remember that discussion. It prompted me to make this photoshopped image ;)

NotAWretch.jpg


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The poster asks where they went off topic..
Where was this asked again?

It was a deliberate twist as ususal

Totally agree with you there! See, this is a great example of how things are said but have little to no basis in reality. Assuming you are talking about me, and I may be wrong, where was this question asked? That is my whole point in this tangent, it's that people say things but when asked to show their proof, they back down and somehow shift it to be a personal issue. If I have twisted something, please show me. I'll show you your post, and have highlighted the error. You get rep'ed for saying something that is not quite true, or as you said is twisted? Go figure. Sometimes it's nice to know others wear the same coloured shades as you do.
 
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I remember that discussion. It prompted me to make this photoshopped image ;)

NotAWretch.jpg


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See now that fits more with my theology, even though I didn't have a problem with the first.

I love the shirt Pete, where can I get one?
 
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Commonly Used Church Terms And Their Meanings

Anointing: Used to describe any non-regular emotion (crying in the middle of a song when you forget the words, telling the church off (particularly when its over tithes and offering), doing the Olympic shout around the church

Trick of the Enemy: Used to describe anything that happens because you didn't do what you were supposed to, like your car getting repossessed cause you didn't pay the note, lights getting shut off cause you quit work to go on tour with the pastors choir, or your child repeating the first grade cause he missed the whole second semester to go on a 90 day/90 night fasting and consecration.

Rhema Word: Any message from an out-of-town pastor or evangelist.

Prophetic Word: Same message from that out-of-town pastor, delivered 5 decibels louder, while the congregation is standing. Quiet organ music optional, but works better with silence.

Carnal: Used to describe a saint who goes to the movies. This term doesn't apply if you rent the same movie from Blockbuster.

Didn't God Move: What saints say after a long service where the pastor doesn't preach and they just shout the whole service.

Unlock Your Blessing: What preachers say after they've finished preaching, and they say you must give $50 to "unlock your blessing". For a more dramatic effect, this offering can be started at $1,000 and worked down to $25.

He'll Do It If You Let Him (followed by inaudible tongues): Round one of shouting will begin in 5 minutes. Organist get ready.

We Got To Move On: What the preacher says when he wants shout time to start up again. Organist, turn up the volume on the Leslie.

We Have Time for One More Testimony: Not really, we're just waiting on the pastor to come into service. If you're called on during this one, when you hear clapping, just stop talking, cause the pastor has walked in and people are no longer interested in what God did for you.

We Can Never Pay for the Word: Get your checkbook out, the auction will begin momentarily! This phrase always comes before the offering is taken for the guest speaker.

Didn't Our Hearts Burn: I don't know who started this one, but it sounds pretty silly. Not sure if you should reach for the Bible or Tums.

I'm Praying for Household Salvation: My whole family refuses to go to church with me, cause I'm always saying "pastor said, pastor said, pastor said..."

God Has Been Dealing with Me on Some Issues: I'm still doing what I was doing before I got saved, only now I just put in an extra $5 in my offering when I do it.

That Clap would do for me, But I said give GOD some praise!: Spoken by a vain praise and worship leader who really does want you to clap for them.

Is He Worthy?: Of course He is; why ask a question like that.

Let us go to God in our own way: This is what you say when they ask you to pray in church and you don't know what to say.

God don't need a whole lot of people, where two or three are gathered... : Classic statement by a minister with 6 members.

Get Ready, Get Ready Get Ready!!!: Don't really know what this one means, but if you're not careful, a shout could break out when you say it. It must be said three times to have real impact.

I can't get no help: Preachers say this when no one says amen in the spot they thought would get a lot of amens.

I'm Blessed and Highly Favored: Said when a fellow saint asks "how are you?" Memo to saints: you CAN be saved and answer "fine" when someone asks how are you.

Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty: Whenever you want to disrupt service and holler out when it's quiet, use this statement to justify your behavior.

Get ready to go to the next level: This means the church will be hosting another revival in a few months.

We didn't come here for form or fashion: Spoken by someone who thinks they are the sharpest dressed person in the pulpit.

I feel a shift in my spirit: I've just changed my mind; now Simon says do this...

Stand to your feet: This gives the illusion that the preacher is finished, but be prepared to stand up for at least 1/2 hour. May be cut to 15 minutes if the organist starts playing softly.

Give God a Shabach: Scream to the top of your lungs. Some church members may blow whistles and wave flags as well.

Every head bowed, every eye closed: Quick! everyone look around to see who's getting saved again this week.

Secular: Any person, place, object or event that's not under your church organization.

I mean Jesus all the way: Good. Now start acting like it.

The "Yes Lord" song: Signals the official end to shout time. Anyone still shouting when this song is over is considered to be "in self".

In Self: Used to describe someone who acts alone in church. For example,someone who is shouting alone. Add two more people to this display and its called....

In The Spirit: When three people are doing the same thing in a church service at the same time.

Spirit of Confusion: When everyone is tired of those three people and another bunch of folks start doing something else. For example, three people shouting, and another three people start singing.

Demonic Spirit: Add a tongue-talker and a prophecy to the above act (all at the same time), and the preacher declares a demonic spirit.

Cast the Devil Out: The preacher is tired of this fiasco, and wants all of the above players to sit down.

All things must be done in decency and in order: Closing speech after casting the devil out. Everyone has crossed the line and must sit out two services before participating again.

Prayer partner: Phone buddy. 5 minutes of prayer, 1 hour of church gossiping.
 
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I'll pray for you":

- Go away, your issues make me uncomfortable.

- Aren't I spiritual?

- I have absolutely no idea what to say.

- Woah, you're really screwed up!

- I don't really believe that God will heal your daughter's cancer, but this is what I'm supposed to say.

- You're whining again about your boss not admiring you enough? You're pathetic, self-absorbed, and shallow, but I'm too polite to say that.

"Let's pray" or, more properly, "Let Us Pray":

For a meal

- If we do not do this, the meal will not have the same nutritional value.

- How many "thees" and "thous" can I fit into a short five-minute blessing?

- Yes, I'm really hungry too, but it would look really bad if we ate without going through this meaningless ritual.

- (Oh no! Grandpa Phil is going to pray! The food will be cold half way through his prayer for the missionaries, sometime between the the ones in Thailand and the ones in India.)


a pastor before preaching

- this is not really a prayer God. I am actually speaking to the congregation, trying to get a message across in a way that seems indirect and inherently spiritual. I will accomplish this by using phrases such as, "Help us to remember . . " etc.

- I will instruct Thee, oh Lord, in the ways in which Thou shouldst act.

- I am about to deliver some really spiritual stuff. I want all of you to remember that every word of my sermon is BLESSED and ordained by God Himself.

- OK, so this is just a little ritual all pastors are supposed to go through before preaching. I can do this in my sleep. In fact, I probably do say similar things in my sleep, with just as much meaning.

- This introductory prayer is meant to wake people up. In this prayer I will remind God of how He feels about sin, especially lack of faith, personal discipline, and propriety. I will invoke the wrath of God, because I really love these people. It's for their own good.
 
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I remember that discussion. It prompted me to make this photoshopped image ;)

NotAWretch.jpg


:cool:

Gosh, Pete, do you and Joe really keep an itemized archive of my posts. I am really flattered (but just not that important.) :blush:

~Jim

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Gosh, Pete, do you and Joe really keep an itemized archive of my posts. I am really flattered (but just not that important.) :blush:

No, that image was in my Photobucket, but I remember the discussion.

Oh, and everyone has an itemized archive of your posts, my posts, and everyone else's posts, if they only know how to use a search engine. ;)

:cool:
 
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