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Good advice, Cindy. God has blessed you with His wisdom.
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Jere, I was praying for you before you even showed up, now I will all the more.
I'm glad you told all you did. It gave me a feel for what you're going through, and I too felt your pain. Reminds me of some of the church policies I endured at one place years ago.
I honestly don't know the answer for you. The Lord hasn't revealed it. Do I agree with how they are handling things? Not really. Not if it is like that. But also understand I am hearing one side, and Proverbs talks about the pitfalls of that. Do I have compassion for you? YES!!!!!
Hear is a word of wisdom if you will receive it. Don't dishonor those in authority. Whether they are right or wrong is not the issue. What is, is they are in authority. God has placed those in authority and we must give them honor. He will deal with them if they're wrong, and He will promote you, move you on, or bring you to honor if you handle it according to His will. Remember David and Saul? David only honored Saul all his days, yet the man was out to kill him! Still David honored him, and later arose to be a great king. Much was written about David and how he honored Saul. If you leave, leave peaceably, which is what I see you doing.
Continue to be faithful to obey the Lord. Look to Him. He will bring true friends. And......He is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.
Maybe my answer is not too popular. I believe truth must be told, truth in love. I know you hurt. Oh, I know. Btdt. I went through a thing that caused pain for quite some time in my life and its affects were there for some time after I left. Relief did come. A complete severing of all chains of bondage, for that is what the pain felt like, it came. I remember the exact moment. It was profound, and I have never been bothered by it since.
Every situation is different. I cannot say much specifically about yours. I can pray. I can love you. I can stand by you. And I do. I will stand by you because I do love you, and I will pray.
Just wish I could hug you!
FA,Jere~
As I read your post, I began to weep for your hurt. Those in leadership should be on top of that oversight and be aware of your pain and frustration and should have rectified that immediately and even asked you to sit on the members' side during that business meeting out of respect and love. As they did not I feel that they have priority problems which often come out of a church that is devoid of spiritual leadership--program over people, not people over program.
Something is rotten there and maybe--my opinion--God has just freed you without you having to confront anyone. Your friend is really not much of a friend, either, and perhaps the Lord is freeing you from her and her inflicting you with any more pain. For your leaders (who are friends!) not to immediately come and ask forgiveness and offer some kind of comfort to you, and to swiftly put things right, I detect something is very, very wrong there.
I will pray about this for you, sister, and especially as my heart actually felt your heartbreak as I read your post.
My thoughts are that God has others of His fold waiting to accept and love you.
RAL,Yeah. I have to say, "Ditto, and well said!" Something's off. It doesn't sound as if this church is helping you grow. It sounds like its pushing you out. Sometimes, the relationships that are most toxic and pathological are the ones most difficult to extricate from. (I'm one to talk....in fact, I am one to talk!) I think you need to ask God if there is any reason for you to stay. If not, leave. Like a breakup from a bad relationship, you'll cry, second-guess yourself, long to return, but in the end, you'll be so thankful you freed yourself from all that dark bondage. Church should be a place of joy, acceptance, peace.....etc. You can find it, and you deserve to have it.
I cannot say what the Lord is leading to you to do, but I can say if you feel you can leave with peace in your heart, then it is the right thing to do. If there's any sense of gnawing inside, or leaving in anger, then I'd say wait a bit till you work it out. A great sense of peace in the heart is an indication the Lord is leading you - "This is the way, walk in it."So, does that mean I need to come back under that covering or has God released me and I need to find another church family? I don't even feel like the ones in this church is my family, kwim?
I do and have honored my pastor and his wife. And, my friend as well. Over and over I have overlooked and forgiven.
So, I'm still praying.
God bless you Cindy
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lisa
Hi friends. This post is unlike any I've written thus far. I'm facing something I've not faced before. I am thankful God is the same, and that I know Him.
I am in a great battle, maybe greater than I've acknowledged. Faith doesn't stick its head in the sand in denial, but it confronts the attack and faces it with the Word.
I am at a low, actually sitting here with tears in my eyes, and struggling with how to put into words what it is. I just now have told my husband and that has brought the flood of tears. Up to this point it was merely standing in warfare, standing believing. Though I may cry I will not back down.
There is something going on in my body. Symptoms are getting my attention, and they're there to tell me something's wrong. Its' a struggle to make it to the end of the day, particularly the days that are long at work. I ignore the "tired" feeling and trudge on to do what I'm supposed to do. In the past week, a sore on my arm has enlarged in size, darkened in color, and the core of it has become raw. I wear a bandaid to keep it from messing up my nice white shirt, and to keep people from asking questions. Only now it has grown outside the size of the bandaid. I have stood in faith for this to go for a long time, because I am healed. I was healed a long time ago. Jesus took care of it before I ever even got here, let alone before it showed up.
There's other pain too that has started. I get dizzy. I get weak to where I think I've got to keep my balance and hold this tray because if it drops on those seated in the restaurant it would cause great injury to them.
So.....please stand in faith with me. I've got work still on this earth to complete before I go home.
Thanks. One thing I am sure of, I am not alone. He will never, never leave me, and never, never, no never, forsake me. He's here. And His Word prevails. He will perform it. I shall praise Him.standing my sister and beloved daughter of the Most High God......in the darkest of times, and through the furnace of affliction He allows us to be,,,,,,seemingly alone....it is for a purpose, those times we cannot begin to fathom nor understand...and in the midst of tears, He, seeming to be absent, we stand....and as the tears fall, my precious sister, we stand...and He brings His children to stand with thee....and we stand....praying for grace, for His strength, we stand....
and my sweet sister in Christ, we praise Him in the storm....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGPS8sa-bRQ
lifting you up to Abba (((((hug))))))
This gal has an anointing on her! I can't remember if I commented or not, but she is ministering under a strong anointing here at the end of this video.This is for you, Cindy. Kim Walker doing an anointed "How He Loves Us" It will move you, my friend!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoC1ec-lYps
Good stuff here.amen my sister....there's a quote from the movie "Elizabeth" ...it is this: "Never forget who you are" it was said by a friend before she (the young princess, destined to be Queen Elizabeth) was taken to be persecuted and possibly put to death.
It reminds me of our Abba's admonishment to not forget who we are, in Him.
I was also thinking of armor as i was reading your first post, and i was putting my spiritual armor, piece by piece, as i was preparing to approach His throne, and remembering that we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, darkness in high places....and i remember also, Who has already won the war and Who has already gone before us in this sometimes precarious-seeming journey.
Lifting you up to Abba, my sister and beloved daughter of our Warrior-King, the Most High God.
((((hug)))))