316 - Lost Episode 5:6

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I'm guessing the Middle Eastern man on the plane that gave his condolences to Jack will have some part in the story in the future. Maybe he will end up on the island and play a role in future episodes?

Loved seeing Jin drive up and jump out wearing a Dharma suit! It was good to see that he obviously recognized them. I bet he's wondering if Sun is there, and probably upset at the thought since he made Locke promise to tell her he was dead. Can we assume that the Losties left behind all travel back to the Dharma times and infiltrate? I wonder what they tell the Dharma people when they show up to explain who they are and what they are doing there. If we assume that Jin-Dharma and Dan-Dharma are during the same time then they must end up staying in that time period for awhile.

I'm curious to see if Sun, Ben, and Sayid are on another place in the island or what happened. I'm also curious to see if the other plane passengers are, as well.

I am also curious about all of the connections to the original flight. Have all of those been recreated by the people themselves, or does the island/spacetime continuum have some kind of way of ensuring that the important elements are the same? How responsible are the people for understanding and recreating these things?

Sayid's demeanor was very interesting to me during the boarding of the plane and the flying. He didn't act like he was super gung-ho about being there, but he definitely acted like he knew what was going on and had resigned himself to what was going to happen. Did he have any choice in his inclusion on the flight or is that something that was set up by Ben or someone/something else?

I thought that maybe Ben got in a fight with Sayid in order to get him arrested (thus the handcuffs). The only question would then be why were the police putting him on a flight to Guam.

I'm with sf48erfan...I thought that Ben went and got beaten up by Sayid so that he could get him arrested and on the flight. Who knows, though. I hope he didn't kill Pen. :(

I do think Des will end up going back, though. But I hope Penny can go with him!

Also, how did Hurley get out of jail?

Oh! Did anyone else think..at the VERY beginning of the show...that we were back to the VERY first episode? My husband thought Jack was dreaming.

I didn't think we were back, but I thought it was a GREAT opening. I have wondered for a long time if we would see more instances of the same eye-opening beginning we had in the pilot. I have actually wondered if the ending of the show will be marked with that same shot somehow.

I was very curious about Kate's attitude about whatever had happened with Aaron. She seemed really upset. It seems kind of weird that she wouldn't be willing to tell Jack what had happened. He is the kid's uncle, after all. Whatever happened, it must have been pretty horrible, or really secretive. I don't think she just gave him to Claire's mom, otherwise why would she be so hesitant to talk about it?

Mrs. Hawking didn't seem to be affected at all by the news that Dan had sent Desmond to tell her to help them. Perhaps she already knew somehow? She seemed almost like his coming there was a bother to her, or like he was giving her information that she already knew.

I think my favorite line was when Frank looked around and saw everyone and then back and Jack and said, "We aren't going to Guam, are we?" :D

This was a great episode. I think I'm going to rewatch during lunch. I loved it!
 
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Another question...

My husband had this one about Sayid and his escort on the plane. Didn't it seem a bit odd, especially with what we know about Sayid's physical abilities, that he's being escorted by a woman marshall?
 
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Another question...

My husband had this one about Sayid and his escort on the plane. Didn't it seem a bit odd, especially with what we know about Sayid's physical abilities, that he's being escorted by a woman marshall?

Sayid is still a pretty law abiding guy. I don't think he would give a marshall much grief if he were guilty.
 
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Sayid is still a pretty law abiding guy. I don't think he would give a marshall much grief if he were guilty.

True. Well sort of. Law-abiding in a murdering kind of way.
 
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I think Sayid was convinced the same way Hurley and Kate were convinced - through some kind of threat that made them willing to go back to the island, but not happily.

Yeah, I think that is a good theory, and it makes plenty of sense to me.
 
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theories from my Lost Lunch today (dunno if anyone's already thought of these here):

Widmore protected Penny, and she is not dead. His thugs just beat Ben to shreds.

Widmore is connected to Daniel Faraday's mother (Ms. Hawking, we're pretty certain) because Daniel is his son. This is why he funded Faraday's research.

Daniel Faraday's mother has connections to Widmore, but now she's "working with" Ben. Rivals. Is she a double agent? Another manipulator who won't tell you the truth? I think she's the latter, for certain.

Jin and the bus/uniform: Since Locke fixed the wheel, the Islanders stopped leaping wildly through time and they were stuck in the 70s when the Darhma Initiative was active. They're all posing as Darhma employees. Remember Daniel during the dig around the Orchid station in an earlier episode? I think that happened during this time as they faked being part of the DI.
 
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theories from my Lost Lunch today (dunno if anyone's already thought of these here):

Widmore protected Penny, and she is not dead. His thugs just beat Ben to shreds.

Widmore is connected to Daniel Faraday's mother (Ms. Hawking, we're pretty certain) because Daniel is his son. This is why he funded Faraday's research.

Daniel Faraday's mother has connections to Widmore, but now she's "working with" Ben. Rivals. Is she a double agent? Another manipulator who won't tell you the truth? I think she's the latter, for certain.

Jin and the bus/uniform: Since Locke fixed the wheel, the Islanders stopped leaping wildly through time and they were stuck in the 70s when the Darhma Initiative was active. They're all posing as Darhma employees. Remember Daniel during the dig around the Orchid station in an earlier episode? I think that happened during this time as they faked being part of the DI.
That is a great, great, great theory!!!
 
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So, did they all choose not to dress in hiking gear because of the request to recreate everything as much as possible?

And WHO is going in place of Walt? Is it supposed to be that guy from the Traitor movie? Walt's the only living person that's not returning. What are the writers DOING with Walt????
 
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So, did they all choose not to dress in hiking gear because of the request to recreate everything as much as possible?

And WHO is going in place of Walt? Is it supposed to be that guy from the Traitor movie? Walt's the only living person that's not returning. What are the writers DOING with Walt????

Well, there's also Desmond, Penny, and Aaron. ;)

Walt is too busy eating Tyson Chicken Nuggets to go back to the island. There are no microwaves on the island anymore. (How is it possible that I can't find a video of this anywhere online????)
 
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Well, there's also Desmond, Penny, and Aaron. ;)

Walt is too busy eating Tyson Chicken Nuggets to go back to the island. There are no microwaves on the island anymore. (How is it possible that I can't find a video of this anywhere online????)
oooo I saw that commercial!!!
 
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How do you know Walt wasn't on the plane? Maybe he was in the back? Perhaps he hopped on in NY and it had a connection in LA?
I'm telling you...he's in the back, holding Aaron on his lap! :thumbsup:

Well, there's also Desmond, Penny, and Aaron. ;)

Walt is too busy eating Tyson Chicken Nuggets to go back to the island. There are no microwaves on the island anymore. (How is it possible that I can't find a video of this anywhere online????)

I was like, "WAAAAAALLLLLTTTTTT!!!" Scared the dog, heh. ^_^

Well, Des and Pen weren't on the plane. Aaron is there, I just know it.

And speaking of Walt...what about ....Vincent! ;) And Locke's wheelchair. If we can have a guitar case, we need a wheel chair. And, don't we need something to represent Shannon and Boone? :scratch:
 
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Shannon and Boone died on the island... so I guess there's no need for there replication.

But then again... why does Hurley have a Charlie-esque guitar

Yeah Charlie died on the island too, but they wanted/needed his guitar. The pilot died on the island, but Lapidus (the originally scheduled pilot on 815) is flying 816. So I dunno how much they needed to recreate -- just their part, or the whole flight?

Charlie's guitar always seemed to have some kind of significance, more than other personal effects on the island. The guitar was what Charlie wanted most, and when he passed Locke's "test" (or the island's, I guess), the guitar showed up.

The only other significant personal effect I can think of was the wheelchair.
 
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Why did the episode end? It slowly built up and up until I was ready to throw something at the tv when it ended.

I really really really want that VW camper. It is a thing of beauty.

Oh I know, and if I had one of those VWs, you better believe I'd pimp it Dharma-style. I'd definitely get someone to make me a new emblem for the grill, and I'd fill it with beer and Work Mans :D
 
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One last thing:

Ms. Hawking said the room they were in was "The Lamp Post". I immediately thought of Narnia when I heard this. The Lamp Post was the first thing Lucy Penvensie saw when she entered Narnia. It was at the entrance to the Wardrobe, which is what led her from our world into Narnia.

Yes!! As soon as she mentionned the lamp post I thought of Narnia straight away!!

Thought it was a really great episode!! :clap: (I forgot to record it so I could watch it again, I really wish I had :()

They're starting to explain more slowly, although it's definetely no less crazier.

I've got a feeling it's Daniel who first discovered the island as well in that room.

Does anyone know if Claire's meant to be coming back in this episode?? It would be good to see her in it again.

I think some of them were bullied into going back as well. And I can't shake off the feeling that the motives aren't completely good ones either!
 
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