Earth's Final Harvest - isn't final?

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Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
Matthew 13:39
... the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Revelation 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”

How can the opportunity for salvation on Earth continue after the harvest is reaped? (A question for earthly millennialists)

Are there others in addition to the wheat and the tares?
 

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Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
Matthew 13:39
... the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Revelation 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”

How can the opportunity for salvation on Earth continue after the harvest is reaped? (A question for earthly millennialists)

Are there others in addition to the wheat and the tares?
According to Amills [ones who believe they are now in the Millenium], the harvest and End of the Age is already fulfilled and heck, they could be right as I am now beginning to view it as fulfilled myself :)

Matt 13:30 "Suffer-ye! to be together-growing both until the Harvest.
And in The Time of the Harvest/qerismou <2326> I shall be declaring to the Harvesters/qeristaiV <2327> 'together-collect the darnel/zizania <2215........[Reve 14:15]

Reve 14:15 And another Messenger came out out of the Sanctuary crying out in a voice great to the one sitting upon the cloud "send! the sickle of thee and reap! that came The Hour to reap, that is dried the Harvest of the land. [Joel 3:13/Matt 13:30]
 
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According to Amills [ones who believe they are now in the Millenium], the harvest and End of the Age is already fulfilled and heck, they could be right as I am now beginning to view it as fulfilled myself :)
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Only full preterists (not Amills )believe that the millenium, end of the age and the second Coming are past tense.

Amills(partial preterists) don't believe that the harvest, end of the age nor the Second Coming are already fulled.
They do believe though as you state the Millenium is now.
 
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According to Amills [ones who believe they are now in the Millenium], the harvest and End of the Age is already fulfilled and heck, they could be right as I am now beginning to view it as fulfilled myself :)
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Only full preterists (not Amills )believe that the millenium, end of the age and the second Coming are past tense.

Amills(partial preterists) don't believe that the harvest, end of the age nor the Second Coming are already fulled.
They do believe though as you state the Millenium is now.
:confused: Don't understand that as in my view once the last bowl is poured out in Revelation, IT IS ALL FINISHED, and if I thought Revelation 16 was fulfilled I would be a Full Preterist indeed :)

Matthew 24:3 Of sitting yet of Him on the mount of the olives came toward to Him His Disciples according to own saying "be telling to us! when? these shall be and what? the Sign of Thy ParousiaV <3952> and of the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age"

Reve 15:1 And I visioned another Sign in the heaven, great and marvelous, Messengers seven, having stripes/blows seven, the last, that in them is-finished/etelesqh <5055> (5681) the fury of the God.
 
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:confused: Don't understand that as in my view once the last bowl is poured out in Revelation, IT IS ALL FINISHED, and if I thought Revelation 16 was fulfilled I would be a Full Preterist indeed :)

Matthew 24:3 Of sitting yet of Him on the mount of the olives came toward to Him His Disciples according to own saying "be telling to us! when? these shall be and what? the Sign of Thy ParousiaV <3952> and of the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age"

Reve 15:1 And I visioned another Sign in the heaven, great and marvelous, Messengers seven, having stripes/blows seven, the last, that in them is-finished/etelesqh <5055> (5681) the fury of the God.
I was just giving the gist of what Amills believe.

They may have different explanations of (except the future Second Coming), of the how things have been fullfilled or are being fulfilled.

I am new to the forum and don't know what your views are. They are many views and combination of views to suit just as many people that have them. :)
 
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I was just giving the gist of what Amills believe.

They may have different explanations of (except the future Second Coming), of the how things have been fullfilled or are being fulfilled.

I am new to the forum and don't know what your views are. They are many views and combination of views to suit just as many people that have them. :)
Have you visited the Eschatology board yet? :wave:

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14
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http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=50703065#post50703065
Olivet Discourse and Revelation Same Event?
 
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I am NOT an earthly millennialist. I fail to see any question about the teaching of Scripture. The harvest is at the end of the age, when Jesus returns and takes His people home to heaven. The wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming, and there is no human life on the planet during the thousand years. I recall a Scripture speaking of the land, the earth, having its 'rest.' I see no Scriptural support for the notion that there will be anyone else saved during the thousand years, since all those who did not go home to heaven with Jesus have perished. According to Rev. 20, at the end of the thousand years, the wicked are raised for the final judgment. (Cf. Jn. 5:44?) and fire comes down from heaven and devours them. No second chance IOW.

Dave
 
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Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
Matthew 13:39
... the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Revelation 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe

How can the opportunity for salvation on Earth continue after the harvest is reaped? (A question for earthly millennialists)

Are there others in addition to the wheat and the tares?
The millennial reign is on earth and heaven.

Isaiah 44:26
who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills the predictions of his messengers, who says of Jerusalem, 'It shall be inhabited,' of the towns of Judah, 'They shall be built,' and of their ruins, 'I will restore them,'

Isaiah 45:18
For this is what the LORD says— he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited— he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Jeremiah 17:25
then kings who sit on David's throne will come through the gates of this city with their officials. They and their officials will come riding in chariots and on horses, accompanied by the men of Judah and those living in Jerusalem, and this city will be inhabited forever.

Joel 3:20
Judah will be inhabited forever and Jerusalem through all generations.

Zechariah 14:11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
 
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The concept of preterism and amillennialism are two separate but related issues. Most preterists are actually postmillennialists.

I am an amillenialist but not a preterist--at least not a full-preterist. Revelation 14:15 pretty clearly seems to be speaking about the second coming of Christ which has not happened yet.
 
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I am NOT an earthly millennialist. I fail to see any question about the teaching of Scripture. The harvest is at the end of the age, when Jesus returns and takes His people home to heaven. The wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming, and there is no human life on the planet during the thousand years. I recall a Scripture speaking of the land, the earth, having its 'rest.' I see no Scriptural support for the notion that there will be anyone else saved during the thousand years, since all those who did not go home to heaven with Jesus have perished. According to Rev. 20, at the end of the thousand years, the wicked are raised for the final judgment. (Cf. Jn. 5:44?) and fire comes down from heaven and devours them. No second chance IOW.

Dave

The millennial reign is on earth and heaven.

Isaiah 44:26
who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills the predictions of his messengers, who says of Jerusalem, 'It shall be inhabited,' of the towns of Judah, 'They shall be built,' and of their ruins, 'I will restore them,'

Isaiah 45:18
For this is what the LORD says— he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited— he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Jeremiah 17:25
then kings who sit on David's throne will come through the gates of this city with their officials. They and their officials will come riding in chariots and on horses, accompanied by the men of Judah and those living in Jerusalem, and this city will be inhabited forever.

Joel 3:20
Judah will be inhabited forever and Jerusalem through all generations.

Zechariah 14:11
It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
 
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