316 - Lost Episode 5:6

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Please make sure you use spoilers until tomorrow morning. Even if you are not directly discussing events of the episode, even relating things like your post gives an awful lot away.

I'm really so sorry. :blush: :doh:

I'm so used to being what seems like the only one that doesn't read the spoilers, that I thought I was just referring to things that had already been read by everyone else posting here. I'm also used to things then being discussed outside of the spoilers....oh...I just got lost here...and no pun intended.

I'll go back and change my post right away. Mea culpa
 
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Wow....

I noticed! And yeah. But the painting of Thomas was kinda oogie. :sorry:

Also,

Who was that guy on the plane?? We haven't seen him before, have we?

And,

When is it?? Now both Jin and Daniel have been in Dharma suits. :eek:

And,

... Sun, Sayid, and Ben??

And,

... was Sayid in handcuffs??? Like Kate was, even wearing a coat over them so it wasn't obvious!

And finally,

... did Hurley know to be on the plane AND with Charlie's guitar case???
 
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This one left me with so many questions. I am assuming the island is still moving in time. The van that Jin was driving looked too new. I am also wondering what Kate did with Aaron. Maybe she gave him to Claire's mom.

That thought occured to me on my drive in this morning.

As for the crash, van, etc... I think that a flash happened as soon as the plane flew over the island, and those that had been on the island just 'landed' on the island, but I think the plane made it to Guam. I'm not quite sure about Lapidus though... that would be freaky to say the least, for the co-pilot to have lost his pilot, etc.

As for Sun, Sayid, and Ben... I bet they are around somewhere, just haven't located them yet.

As for Sayid being in hand-cuffs.. remember how the Mrs Hawkins told Jack that they needed to recreate the events of the crash as closely as possible; well, in the original crash Kate was under arrest and in this one Sayid was, but I'm not sure how he pulled that off.

Was anyone else upset that they wasted several minutes replaying at the end what happened in the beginning? I was thinking... GET on with it already.

I think this has been said; but I think they are still going to have a problem since Aaron wasn't with them, and he was technically on Oceanic.

OHHH.. and is the airline that they flew on the name of the airline stuff that they found on the beach a couple of weeks ago?
 
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This one left me with so many questions. I am assuming the island is still moving in time. The van that Jin was driving looked too new. I am also wondering what Kate did with Aaron. Maybe she gave him to Claire's mom.

Something in me says...he's on that plane! He could be with the passengers in the back. And what about Sun and Jin's daughter? :confused:
 
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Very good episode. The pace of the show is really picking up heading for that conclusion!!!
Yeah, it's great.

That thought occured to me on my drive in this morning.

As for the crash, van, etc... I think that a flash happened as soon as the plane flew over the island, and those that had been on the island just 'landed' on the island, but I think the plane made it to Guam. I'm not quite sure about Lapidus though... that would be freaky to say the least, for the co-pilot to have lost his pilot, etc.

As for Sun, Sayid, and Ben... I bet they are around somewhere, just haven't located them yet.

As for Sayid being in hand-cuffs.. remember how the Mrs Hawkins told Jack that they needed to recreate the events of the crash as closely as possible; well, in the original crash Kate was under arrest and in this one Sayid was, but I'm not sure how he pulled that off.

Was anyone else upset that they wasted several minutes replaying at the end what happened in the beginning? I was thinking... GET on with it already.

I think this has been said; but I think they are still going to have a problem since Aaron wasn't with them, and he was technically on Oceanic.

OHHH.. and is the airline that they flew on the name of the airline stuff that they found on the beach a couple of weeks ago?
I was thinking that Sayid got arrested for killing so many people, although why he is going to Guam is beyond me.

I thought that maybe Ben got in a fight with Sayid in order to get him arrested (thus the handcuffs). The only question would then be why were the police putting him on a flight to Guam.

Also, how did Hurley get out of jail?

Yeah, that could be the thing with Ben and Sayid...good point, and the Guam thing makes no sense to me either. Or Ben could have gotten bloodied up getting Hurley out of jail.

We thought it was VERY weird that Jack isn't shown asking Ben what happened to him.
 
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Other possible Biblical connections that occurred to me this morning...

The Biblical Jacob is the father of Ben(jamin). Benjamin is his youngest son...and his only other child with Rachel (his favored wife) along with Joseph.

That just made me think a bit more about the Jacob/Ben connection, but I have no ideas beyond that.

Once Doubting Thomas physically touched the risen Jesus...he was a true believer. Oh! He was the first missionary to....India! And that's where the airline is from! Hmm, that just came to mind as I typed this. They sure did make a big deal of that picture, showing it and discussing it. Interesting that Jack did not know the story of doubting Thomas, but Ben sure did.

Anyone notice the "halo" behind Ben's head when he was praying? The window at the back of the church gave that effect from the camera angle.

Not being Catholic, I don't really understand the meaning of lighting a vigil candle, but they sure wanted to feature both Eloise and Ben doing just that, and I wonder if that is supposed to mean anything.

And...off the religious topic....Ben's mother did NOT teach him to read, unless he had some surrogate mother we don't know about. His mother died giving birth to him.
 
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Other possible Biblical connections that occurred to me this morning...

The Biblical Jacob is the father of Ben(jamin). Benjamin is his youngest son...and his only other child with Rachel (his favored wife) along with Joseph.

That just made me think a bit more about the Jacob/Ben connection, but I have no ideas beyond that.

It is interesting if you look at the relationship Jacob and Benjamin had.

Once Doubting Thomas physically touched the risen Jesus...he was a true believer. Oh! He was the first missionary to....India! And that's where the airline is from! Hmm, that just came to mind as I typed this. They sure did make a big deal of that picture, showing it and discussing it. Interesting that Jack did not know the story of doubting Thomas, but Ben sure did.

Interesting about Ajira being an Indian airline and the facts about St. Thomas.

Anyone notice the "halo" behind Ben's head when he was praying? The window at the back of the church gave that effect from the camera angle.
Must watch episode again....

Not being Catholic, I don't really understand the meaning of lighting a vigil candle, but they sure wanted to feature both Eloise and Ben doing just that, and I wonder if that is supposed to mean anything.
It means you are in prayer for something/someone.

And...off the religious topic....Ben's mother did NOT teach him to read, unless he had some surrogate mother we don't know about. His mother died giving birth to him.

I think that was just Ben being a smart guy to Jack.
 
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I think the promise that Ben had to keep for an old friend was killing Penny


Whoa, I didn't even think of that. For the overall story, I think that would be an interesting development, but for Desmond I'd feel terrible.
 
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And I think they would have left the LA area on their boat by that point.

Did they even come on their boat? I was thinking that Des came to LA alone, since the last place the boat was, was in England. Much faster for him to fly there....make his contact with Daniel's mother, and turn around and leave. I don't think they stayed in England either...wanting to be away from Pen's father.
 
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Did they even come on their boat? I was thinking that Des came to LA alone, since the last place the boat was, was in England. Much faster for him to fly there....make his contact with Daniel's mother, and turn around and leave. I don't think they stayed in England either...wanting to be away from Pen's father.

Penny tells Desmond (after he tells her that Daniel's mother is in LA) that they are going with him.
 
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