Do you feel it is morally wrong to mission to children without parental permission? In other words, is it good to try to convert a Muslim child to Christianity if the child's parents are nowhere nearby?
Prostletyzing to Children
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Jane_the_Bane
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Absolutely! (But I'm against the indoctrination of children in general, anyway.)
(Oh, and that's a really interesting letter salad in your thread title, b&w.)
(Oh, and that's a really interesting letter salad in your thread title, b&w.)
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So, (totally ignoring whether your accusation is accurate or not, and just letting it stand like that) you think that one wrong justifies another, and that behaviour should be determined by the lowest (literally!) common denominator?Nope. If yall can pass out condoms and take them to get abortions without parental consent, then I can surely preach the Gospel to them without parental consent.
That paints a very dour picture, you know?
And I'm sure you would be among the first to rally against Non-Christian missionaries proselytizing your children, handing them nice little comic strips about the Qur'an and "letting Allah do the converting", for example.
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Zaac
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Did I say that me sharing the Gospel was wrong? Preaching the Gospel ain't wrong.
See above.
We live in a world where everyone who isn't a Christian is a non-Christian missionary proselytizing to our children. That's why I'm there to give them the REAL TRUTH so that they know the difference between Truth and lies.
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Kris10leigh
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Whoa. No, I think it is absolutely wrong to go against a parent's wish. I would be seriously ticked if anyone did that with my child. Think about it. How would you react if a Muslim tried to convert your child?
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Well, I'd certainly think it was outrageous.......imagine if I had a kid and s/he came home and started calling me a satanist and saying I'm going to hell!
I think that religious or other pressure groups targeting children is not OK. Teenagers, another matter entirely, since most have the ability to reason.
I think that religious or other pressure groups targeting children is not OK. Teenagers, another matter entirely, since most have the ability to reason.
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Nope. If yall can pass out condoms and take them to get abortions without parental consent, then I can surely preach the Gospel to them without parental consent.
We lack the power to convert. Preach the Gospel and let God do the converting.
If I ever find someone doing this to my children, they better hope for some divine intervention because I will be showing them exactly how wrong they are to have targeted my children.
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Honestly, speaking for myself (and hypothetically because I don't have kids) I'm going to teach my kids that God is an imaginary friend for grown ups, and if someone wants to tell them about God then they should let me know and I'll answer their questions. So while it may be a kind of dirty trick, it's one that's easily prepared for by talking to your kids. And if my kid decided to buy into it, well I'm not going to disown him or her unlike some people.
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corvus_corax
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Which part?
Preaching the Christian Gospel, or passing out condoms and taking your children to abortion clinics without your parental consent?
Or all three?
Just wondering, as you didnt specifically state which in response to his post.
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I do feel that it's a bit under-handed to target children, particularly if they're not accompanied by a parent or guardian. However, I don't think I'd personally be angry if someone proselytized to my child because if and when I have children, I intend to let them know that they can discuss any kinds of questions they may have about God or religion with me, at any time. If my child came home one day and said, 'mommy, I was told this by so and so,' I'd simply ask them what they thought about it, and then provide my input.
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Kris10leigh
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Since my husband and I have varying beliefs, we already do the "I believe this but Daddy believes this" routine. It works.
I hadn't thought about that fact that this method just may safeguard them against prostletyzing attempts. At least they know they can talk to us and that people have different beliefs.
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Well, I don't care much about the condoms part. I would hope my children would talk to me before having to go to an abortion clinic, but that also is because I would hope my children would feel comfortable talking to me about anything.
I would be furious at attempted religious conversion, however. Even giving children a good base, they are still a lot more impressionable and have a lot more trouble standing up to an adult when they are saying things that go against the taught beliefs.
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Jade Margery
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My parents rarely spoke of religious matters to my siblings and I, neither in support or denial, and we all grew up to be agnostics/athiests by default. Funny how god doesn't do much converting without someone spoon-feeding it to a kid.
I think, though, that by about age eight or nine, a child is past the most impressionable stage. My youngest sister had an interesting conversation with her step-grandmother, who is very religious. Step-grandma was giving her a ride somewhere and telling her all about how god made everything and the bible and such. Sis, then seven, said 'But isn't that just a book of stories?' which caused S.G. much confusion and led to further talkings about how it was the word of god and she believed in it. When relating the story to my mom, my sister said, 'Well... it may be what she believes, but that doesn't make it true...'
Children can grow into very shrewd and logical people provided they aren't brainwashed early. As for proselytizing my children, I just hope my kids are smart enough to figure things out on their own. I will answer their questions if they ask, but I'm going to try not to influence them otherwise and let them come to their own beliefs as I was allowed to come to mine.
I think, though, that by about age eight or nine, a child is past the most impressionable stage. My youngest sister had an interesting conversation with her step-grandmother, who is very religious. Step-grandma was giving her a ride somewhere and telling her all about how god made everything and the bible and such. Sis, then seven, said 'But isn't that just a book of stories?' which caused S.G. much confusion and led to further talkings about how it was the word of god and she believed in it. When relating the story to my mom, my sister said, 'Well... it may be what she believes, but that doesn't make it true...'
Children can grow into very shrewd and logical people provided they aren't brainwashed early. As for proselytizing my children, I just hope my kids are smart enough to figure things out on their own. I will answer their questions if they ask, but I'm going to try not to influence them otherwise and let them come to their own beliefs as I was allowed to come to mine.
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Thus why we give them the truth. Wouldn't want them ending up as lost and confused as their parents. Prayerfully to God, if the kids are saved, they can share the Gospel with their unsaved parents and get them saved too.
That's just completely horrible. Really, truly horrible to target children.
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Thus why we give them the truth. Wouldn't want them ending up as lost and confused as their parents. Prayerfully to God, if the kids are saved, they can share the Gospel with their unsaved parents and get them saved too.
What a load of garbage. I hope some parents sues you for every dime you have if you ever do it.
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Zaac
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Why? The devil targets them. Children need to be saved just like everyone else. And when statistics show that most people are saved before the age of 14 and become more hardened to God's truth after that age, yep, we are gonna evangelize the kids. But don't worry, we want the adults to be saved too. So if we can share the Gospel with a family,
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Why? The devil targets them. Children need to be saved just like everyone else. And when statistics show that most people are saved before the age of 14 and become more hardened to God's truth after that age, yep, we are gonna evangelize the kids. But don't worry, we want the adults to be saved too. So if we can share the Gospel with a family,
I don't believe in the devil the same way you do, but I will say that you do the work of evil. I will be instructing my children on how to combat the tactics of those who would target them, however, so I guess I don't have that much to worry about. Just a hint: Because you believe and have faith something is the truth, does not make it so. Just a thought for you.
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