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why does God have to have an unforgivable sin? Didn't Jesus come to save from ALL sins? Wouldn't that include this one? How is that God refuses to forgive someone who does this? Ugh it makes me sad, worried and angry. I just hate being me I don't want to be me anymore. I want to just not exist and wish I never existed in the first place. I don't like feeling like I want to commit this sin. I hate myself and my life so much. I have no reason to live anymore. Not God, not my kids, my husband..no reason to be here. I hate feeling empty I hate not having the right feelings..I hate that I like to do wrong. I hate that I am weak. I feel as if I have been stripped of all my morals and ethics and have been replaced by a psychopath who has no remorse or feelings. I have asked God to help me countless times and He did for awhile, but I screwed it up big time. Now I'm screwed; God has left me because I either committed the unforgivable sin or became an apostate. I have no hope anymore. God called me before and I accepted it I was happy to be with God and have Jesus as my savior. Why won't God call me again? I wish He would I wish He would let me know that I'm not lost forever, but I know this isn't going to happen. :(
 
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Tyield1102, You are loved by God. More than you could ever imagine. Do not go by feelings, because they will lead you astray. A hypocondriac may think he is having a heart attack because his chest is tight and his heart is racing like it is going to jump out of his chest. But, when he goes to the doctor they run all the tests and he is fine. His feelings lied to him. Satans job is to make you think certain things about yourself. Thst you are unworthy, unforgivable, unloveable etc...But these are total lies. Find me the passage in the Bible that says Jesus went to the Cross for everyone accept Tyield1102. You will be looking for the rest of your life because it is not there. He went to the cross specificly for you!! You were in his heart and mind when he went ot calvary. He wants to spend eternity with you, because thats how special you are to him! If you need forgivness, ASK. First John 1:9 says "If we confess our sin He is worthy and just to forgive us our sin, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness". It is impossible for Jesus to lie. He knows no sin. Satans job is to keep you from the knowledge of the truth. He is good at what he does. He has been doing it for a long time. He knows just what buttons to push to make you discouraged. Do a search on the web for a website called net-burst.com. Look for the things written by Grantley Morris on Scrupulisity. He is very insightful and I believe is used by God to help people like us.

REMEMBER: JESUS DOES LOVE YOU MORE THAN YOU WOULD EVER KNOW!!
 
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why does God have to have an unforgivable sin? Didn't Jesus come to save from ALL sins? Wouldn't that include this one? How is that God refuses to forgive someone who does this? Ugh it makes me sad, worried and angry. I just hate being me I don't want to be me anymore. I want to just not exist and wish I never existed in the first place. I don't like feeling like I want to commit this sin. I hate myself and my life so much. I have no reason to live anymore. Not God, not my kids, my husband..no reason to be here. I hate feeling empty I hate not having the right feelings..I hate that I like to do wrong. I hate that I am weak. I feel as if I have been stripped of all my morals and ethics and have been replaced by a psychopath who has no remorse or feelings. I have asked God to help me countless times and He did for awhile, but I screwed it up big time. Now I'm screwed; God has left me because I either committed the unforgivable sin or became an apostate. I have no hope anymore. God called me before and I accepted it I was happy to be with God and have Jesus as my savior. Why won't God call me again? I wish He would I wish He would let me know that I'm not lost forever, but I know this isn't going to happen. :(
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Many of we with OCD have at one time or the other thought that we had commited the unpardonable sin, I also thought I had done this, so what I did was studied exactly what the unpardonable sin is, a long time ago on this forum,"2007" I posted on what I had discovered about the unpardonable sin, believe me when I tell you that you HAVE NOT commited the unpardonable sin, and in fact that particular sin cannot be commited in the way it was when Jesus walked the earth and was speaking to the Jewish leaders of that day, you cannot commit this same sin today, the only unpardonable sin today is rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ as payment for your sin. I know that you are struggling believe me when I tell you that I know your pain, the other person who posted to you and told you that God loves you and has not forgotten about you is telling you the truth, and what does Jesus call himself the way the TRUTH and the life. God is reaching out to you right now through this forum He speaks in many different ways, Primarily through his word, but also he uses other people to speak to us as well. I have to tell you that I have not posted on the forum for many months now, and happened upon it today and I believe it was to help you. Please know that I will be praying for you, God has such purpose and destiny for you. Press on trusting in the Lord, he promises he will see you through and I know he will because he did it for me and I was in exactly the same place you are in now, you will get through this. Jan
 
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why does God have to have an unforgivable sin? Didn't Jesus come to save from ALL sins? Wouldn't that include this one? How is that God refuses to forgive someone who does this? Ugh it makes me sad, worried and angry. I just hate being me I don't want to be me anymore. I want to just not exist and wish I never existed in the first place. I don't like feeling like I want to commit this sin. I hate myself and my life so much. I have no reason to live anymore. Not God, not my kids, my husband..no reason to be here. I hate feeling empty I hate not having the right feelings..I hate that I like to do wrong. I hate that I am weak. I feel as if I have been stripped of all my morals and ethics and have been replaced by a psychopath who has no remorse or feelings. I have asked God to help me countless times and He did for awhile, but I screwed it up big time. Now I'm screwed; God has left me because I either committed the unforgivable sin or became an apostate. I have no hope anymore. God called me before and I accepted it I was happy to be with God and have Jesus as my savior. Why won't God call me again? I wish He would I wish He would let me know that I'm not lost forever, but I know this isn't going to happen. :(
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Many of we with OCD have at one time or the other thought that we had commited the unpardonable sin, I also thought I had done this, so what I did was studied exactly what the unpardonable sin is, a long time ago on this forum,"2007" I posted on what I had discovered about the unpardonable sin, believe me when I tell you that you HAVE NOT commited the unpardonable sin, and in fact that particular sin cannot be commited in the way it was when Jesus walked the earth and was speaking to the Jewish leaders of that day, you cannot commit this same sin today, the only unpardonable sin today is rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ as payment for your sin. I know that you are struggling believe me when I tell you that I know your pain, the other person who posted to you and told you that God loves you and has not forgotten about you is telling you the truth, and what does Jesus call himself the way the TRUTH and the life. God is reaching out to you right now through this forum He speaks in many different ways, Primarily through his word, but also he uses other people to speak to us as well. I have to tell you that I have not posted on the forum for many months now, and happened upon it today and I believe it was to help you. Please know that I will be praying for you, God has such purpose and destiny for you. Press on trusting in the Lord, he promises he will see you through and I know he will because he did it for me and I was in exactly the same place you are in now, you will get through this. Jan
 
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I really don't believe that this idea of unpardonable sin is just simply committing one act. I think you have to factor in "the whole counsel of scripture." When you do that, I think it then becomes apparent that maybe Jesus is speaking of something deeper than just making a single statement etc. I do not believe the unpardonable sin is something that can be done by accident or on a whim or through some period of weakness. I think most theologians would back me up on this.

I would also encourage you to read the testimonies on the website I am posting if you haven't in the past. And yes, sometimes we wish God would just give us reassurance in some huge way. He may, in some instances, but more typically though, it seems that He works through a "process of healing." Does that make sense?

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why does God have to have an unforgivable sin?
Simply because if He didn't there would be a whole lot of folk in heaven with Him who didn't want to be there. People who reject Christ are happy to do so. The last thing they want is for God to step into their life and interfere with it in any way. They say to God...."I am my own".. and God says to them.. "OK, have it your way then.
You don't fit into that category though. More than anything else you want to be with God and the thought that you might not be terrifies you beyond belief.
The terror is due to the OCD and cannot be depended upon as evidence or proof that you are lost. Remember that "if your heart condemns you that God is greater than your heart."
The emotions of OCD that make us feel condemned cannot undo the work of Christ in redeeming us. That work is finished. Time to get back to treating this as OCD and not a spiritual problem.
Praying for you.
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Thank you all for your replies. It's just so hard to think of being able to be forgiven and trust in Jesus' healing power when you think you have done the one thing He won't forgive. I tell myself I'm just going to believe that Jesus will forgive me because that's what He died for, but then the thought comes into my head "even if you ask your not gonna be forgiven because you have done that one sin" Then I think that Jesus could and might forgive it, but then that would make Him go against His own word that it would never be forgiven. In my mind it doesnt make Him a liar if He would that just makes Him merciful. If you hate this sin and wish it were never in the Bible does that also mean you haven't committed it? I wish I had never read that part of the Bible and that I never knew about this sin. I would rather be blind to it than have constant thoughts about wanting to do it. I went to that website ya'll put on here and it did help at the same time the feelings I have are so strong it's hard not to ignore. I will admit that I gave into my feelings and I started owning the thoughts instead of stating them for what they were and that was the worse thing I could have done. If you were saved before these thoughts started you can't commit this sin can you? Thank you all for your support and prayers
 
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Thank you all for your replies. It's just so hard to think of being able to be forgiven and trust in Jesus' healing power when you think you have done the one thing He won't forgive. I tell myself I'm just going to believe that Jesus will forgive me because that's what He died for, but then the thought comes into my head "even if you ask your not gonna be forgiven because you have done that one sin" Then I think that Jesus could and might forgive it, but then that would make Him go against His own word that it would never be forgiven. In my mind it doesnt make Him a liar if He would that just makes Him merciful. If you hate this sin and wish it were never in the Bible does that also mean you haven't committed it? I wish I had never read that part of the Bible and that I never knew about this sin. I would rather be blind to it than have constant thoughts about wanting to do it. I went to that website ya'll put on here and it did help at the same time the feelings I have are so strong it's hard not to ignore. I will admit that I gave into my feelings and I started owning the thoughts instead of stating them for what they were and that was the worse thing I could have done. If you were saved before these thoughts started you can't commit this sin can you? Thank you all for your support and prayers
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Matthew 12:31 & 32, If you read this passage you will see that Jesus is talking to the Pharisess here. I love Dr. J. Vernon McGee who interputs these verses perfectly, He says this, There is no sin committed yesterday that the Lord would not forgive today because He died for ALL sin. The Holy Spirit came into the world to make real the salvation of Christ to the hearts of men. If you resist the working of the Spirit of God when He speaks to you, my friend, there is no forgiveness because you have rejected salvation made real to you by the Holy Spirit. And it is the work of the Spirit of God to regenerate you. In Mark 3 the Lord amplifies the matter of the unpardonable sin by saying that it attributes the Spirits work to Satan, that Christ had performed these miracles by Beelzebub (Satan) when actually He was doing them by the power of the Spirit of God. You see, they were rejecting the witness of Himself and of the Holy Spirit. Now listen to this, In our day that particular sin cannot be committed because it could only be commited when Jesus was here upon the earth. There is no act of sin that you could commit for which there is no forgiveness. Of course, if you resist the Holy Spirit, there is no forgiveness because He is bringing forgiveness. It is like the man who is dying from a certain disease, and the doctor tells him there is a remedy for it. The man refuses to take the remedy and dies, not from the disease but from refusing to take the remedy. There is a remedy for the disease of sin, and the Holy Spirit applies it, but if you resist it, there is no remedy. That is the only way sin can be unpardonable today.
I want to tell you this again, that particular sin in Matt.12, 31&32 cannot be commited today,Again the only unpardonable sin today is to reject what Jesus did for you on the cross. A person that has OCD and believes they have committed this sin has a very very hard time letting go of the thought, we think we are doomed forever,( It is the OCD that is telling us the big LIE that we are not saved and in fact have commited the unpardonable sin) Many with OCD suffer with the Unpardonable sin and need much reassurance that they have not commited it, even with reassurance we are not completely convinced that we have not commited this sin, I know I was also in this situation, but Praise be to God, He showed me that I indeed suffered from OCD, I sought help for my OCD and I also memorized the verse in Philippians 4:8 part of the verse says, whatsoever things are TRUE, noble, right, pure, and lovely think on these things, what is the truth, Just because you think you have commited the unpardonable sin does not make it TRUE, it is not TRUE, that is the OCD telling you this, What is TRUE, God loves you, you are His and nothing can seperate you from Him, He will never leave you or forsake you. We are all here for you as well, Again I personally know what you are going through and there is that precious light at the end of the tunnel, you will not always feel the way you do right now, you will get better. Jan
 
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I myself would wrestle with believing I had done this. At the time I did not know what OCD was. It is a very disturbing thing to think you have commited this. But, just look at the number of people who have went and go through the exact same situation that are on this board. That should tell you it is definitly an effect of OCD.
 
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