No. And I cant seem to communicate that to you.
I said that
Goddoesnt need to
choose, He can do both
in one fell swoop.
Of COURSE eternal is more weighty than temporal.
That's simple logic. My 12 yo tries to save for a Wii
but ends up buying something every week.
what I am saying is that if healing brings about spiritual healing, it's a given, no brainer. If on the other hand it drives us or others further from the truth, what do you think God will choose? Remember, we have the God given right to choose whether we follow God or not, serve Him or not...we don't always have that choice with sickness...
God's authority is not in question in this thread.
it has throughout part of this thread...In fact, it is a core issue of healing...if God's authority is not final, then we can think and do anything our hearts can conceive and it's okay...that is the point of calling the elders, praying, anointing, and confessing sins, there are things that please God, things that He wishes to honor, but all of those things are spiritual in nature. They can be manifest in the physical but are spiritual in nature...when we are so determined that God will heal our physical that we forget to confess our sins, or be anointed or pray not just request, we are missing the point, and missing God.
Now I asked this before, but I'll ask it again, when was the last time you witnessed someone seeking healing and heard not only the sick person but the elders praying, confessing their sins to one another..."You know elder Tom, I lusted in my heart today...yes patient John, I commited adultry also when Judy walked in showing cleavage...unfortunately elder Tim, I lied to my wife that I didn't eat the extra piece of cake on the counter..." Is this how we behave when praying for the sick? I would be willing to lay money that if we did, everyone we prayed for (that is if all participated) would be healed...that is the word as given to us...but instead we try to make it all about faith and promises and not about obedience. That is the problem I am having...what scripture says demand God to hold to His promises....whatever the excuse depending on the person talking to? It tells us to obey and yet the hard parts of obedience we overlook and blame everything on lack of faith, not on our own lack of obedience.. which btw includes but is not limited to seeking the Kingdom of God first and allowing God to move within our physical world, our physical lives as He wills to do.
If you think that we lack fruit.
I think many in the faith healing crowd show a lack of fruit but not all by any stretch of the imagination...don't take it personal, I have not found you in the first group. I have however met many in this faith healing crowd who show a total lack of fruit, and that is really sad, because as a family, we should all share that same fruit....honestly, that is one of the things I have enjoyed about this discussion and you particularly, because I have seen the fruit, it can be rare in all groups,
Preach and heal, hand in hand.
actually healing is preaching without speaking the words though.
Yikes. ignore or excuse away!
Name it claim it? Has anyone called you names because of your beliefs?
oh so many times...
Hmmm. Do you know why they were angry?
Do you know 'why' Elijah only cleansed the one leper?
No, it doesnt sound familiar.
God allowed WHO to keep his sickness?
Naaman for one...but what constitutes sickness? we can't claim blindness as sickness, being lame is not a sickness, etc. so what is a sickness and how many accounts of sickness do we have where Jesus healed them?
If we include blindness and being lame etc., then we must also include all forms of afflictions of which we see many scriptures that tell us they aren't all healed.
follow... 
