Habakkuk's - at the end it shall speak warning

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Habakkuk 1:1
"The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see..."
so - a vision

2:1
"I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see...when I am reproved."
2:
"... Write the vision...make it plain...that he may run that readeth it."
People in another time will need to read this vision prophecy.
What time is that vision for?

v3
"For the vision...."
//as in because the vision

...is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak...."


This vision from chapter 1 - that Habakkuk in chapter 2 comes to understand is for the end - has this part in it which links us up to the New Testament.

1:6
"For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, [that] bitter and hasty nation..."
v5
"...I will work a work..."

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Acts 13:40
"Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;"
v41
"....I work a work..."


Paul seemed to believe that the work a work prophecy had yet to come to pass - and that it is a time that will befall the church people.

"lest that come upon you"
"spoken of in the prophets"
"work a work"

In Habakkuk's prophecy, he complains about all the evil and violence in the land.
The wicked are perverting judgment by circumventing the righteous.
Why doesn't God, who is too pure to look at misery and evil, do something about all this evil?

God answers that he is raising up the Chaldeans as a chastising rod, and in the end, justice will triumph
...just wait for it, it will not delay in coming (note: Heb 10:37 replaces "it" with "he", meaning "Christ").


At the time of this prophecy, Babylon (Chaldea) was just coming into power under Nebuchadnezzar,
who later subdued Judah and all the surrounding nations, thus fulfilling Habakkuk's prophecy in the "near" sense.

However it seems, in the greater "far" sense, the Chaldeans...a land of merchants and traders (Ezek 16:29, 17:4)...are the merchants and traders who are active in today's unbridled world commerce.


Here's how Habakkuk describes these commercial people (Hab 1:6-11):

6"For behold, I am raising up the Chaldeans,
That fierce and impetuous people
Who march throughout the earth
To seize dwelling places which are not theirs.

7"They are dreaded and feared;
Their justice and authority originate with themselves.

8"Their horses are swifter than leopards
And keener than wolves in the evening
Their horsemen come galloping,
Their horsemen come from afar;
They fly like an eagle swooping down to devour.

9"All of them come for violence.
Their horde of faces moves forward.
They collect captives like sand.

10"They mock at kings
And rulers are a laughing matter to them
They laugh at every fortress
And heap up rubble to capture it.

11"Then they will sweep through like the wind and pass on
But they will be held guilty,
They whose strength is their god."

Bob Frantz
 
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In Acts 13:40-41, Paul wasn't saying that the Chaldeans were going
to come (Habakkuk 1:5-6) upon the unbelieving Jews in Antioch in
Pisidia (Acts 13:14) in the first century; he was warning them, using
the principle of Habakkuk 1:5 alone as a type, not to disbelieve God
the Father's work through Jesus Christ (Acts 13:38-39).

Habakkuk 1:5-6 could have been fulfilled by the ancient Chaldeans
who conquered ancient Jerusalem in 586 BC. In that case, "at the
end" (Habakkuk 2:3) could mean at the end of the ancient period
of time between the time that the vision was given and the
"appointed time" (Habakkuk 2:3) when it was fulfilled: compare
Jeremiah 52:8 & Habakkuk 1:8; compare Jeremiah 52:14-15 &
Habakkuk 1:9; compare Jeremiah 52:10-11 & Habakkuk 1:10a; and
compare Jeremiah 52:5,7a & Habakkuk 1:10b.

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Antiochus III could have fulfilled Daniel 11:13 by, through an alliance
with Philip V of Macedon, raising a large army to invade the Ptolemaic
kingdom, which was centered in Egypt and at that time extended up
to Sidon.

The Jews could have fulfillled Daniel 11:14 by helping Antiochus III.

Antiochus III could have fulfilled Daniel 11:15 by defeating the
Ptolemaic armies in Sidon and Palestine.

But these verses could have a future fulfillment, just as Daniel 11:31
will have a future fulfillment, per Matthew 24:15, even though it
could have been fulfilled by Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 168 BC
(1 Maccabees 1:54).

Preterism could try to get around Matthew 24:15's explicit reference
to a future fulfillment of Daniel 11:31 by claiming that Jesus never
said "spoken of by Daniel the prophet". But if we start thinking that
one part of the Bible is a lie, then we've opened the way to begin
thinking that others parts could be lies too: we could begin to doubt
and reject other parts of the Bible that we don't like, that don't
agree with our current views, that don't "feel right" to us; so that
we could end up with a "buffet" theology, where we pick and choose
which parts of the Bible we'll believe are from God (2 Timothy 3:16)
and which parts we'll reject as man-made "interpolations" and
"personal opinions".

If we accept that all of the Bible is true, then we have to accept
that there'll be a future fulfillment of Daniel 11:31, for it didn't
happen at anytime after Matthew 24:15 was spoken. Daniel
11:31,36 refers to the same man, and matches 2 Thessalonians 2:4,
which refers to a still-unfulfilled action by the Antichrist.

If Daniel 11:31,36 awaits a future fulfillment by the Antichrist, then
he could fulfill all of Daniel 11:21-45, for all of Daniel 11:21-45 refers
to the career of the same man.

If all of Daniel 11:21-45 awaits a future fulfillment by the Antichrist,
then Daniel 11:11-17 could likewise await a future fulfillment, by a
predecessor of the Antichrist's, who could be an Iraqi Baathist
General (in Daniel 11:17, the Hebrew word translated as "daughter"
is "bath") who will defeat Israel and Egypt (Daniel 11:15-16) with a
huge Iraqi Army (cf. Daniel 11:13) built up by the U.S. to defeat Iran
instead.

In this case, "the robbers [or violent] of thy people shall exalt
themselves to establish the vision" (Daniel 11:14b) could refer to the
well-armed ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel becoming violent and
exalting themselves to establish their vision of a theocratic state in
Israel. Tens of thousands of them, all armed with machine guns,
could swarm upon the Old City of Jerusalem and attack the Muslim
Dome of the Rock with huge bulldozers, breaking it down to (as
they could say) "clear the site for Messiah's rebuilding of the temple",
which demolition could trigger a sudden attack on Israel by a huge,
enraged (Muslim) Iraqi Army, resulting in Israel's defeat (Daniel
11:15-16).

"In those times there shall many stand up against the king of the
south" (Daniel 11:14) could include reference to the U.S., insofar
as the king of the south is Egypt, and the U.S. is the current
hegemon over Egypt. The U.S. could put forth a peace plan, with
Egypt as its Arab sponsor, establishing a Palestinian state in the
West Bank and Gaza. But this peace plan could not satisfy many
Arab and European countries because it will let Israel keep "too
many" of its "illegal" settlements in the West Bank; and the peace
plan could enrage many Jews and Christians in Israel and around the
world because it will let the Palestinian state have East Jerusalem,
including the Temple Mount.

The peace plan could be what will spark the violent uprising by the
well-armed ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel, who see the West Bank
as THE Holy Land, "Samaria and Judea", and see the Temple Mount
as the only place where they can rebuild the temple. A formal plan
to irrevocably hand over these holy places to a Muslim state could
be just too much for the ultra-Orthodox Jews to bear. They could
see their dream of a theocratic state in the Holy Land about to be
snuffed out. They could consider that "the time has come", that
"this is our last chance" to establish a theocratic state which
follows the Mosaic law perfectly, with a temple and daily Mosaic
animal sacrifices and everything. And so they could go for broke,
make their move, trusting that God will give them the victory.
 
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