I hate everyone

Bellicus · Nov 23, 2008

I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone. I've hated people for all my life, and always thought of others as a sort of monkeys with incurable stupidity. Preprogrammed robots that just walk around acting after what their software is telling them to do, and having no idea they are doing it at all, but just experience that they do it, and getting updates from the other robots about how to continue their robotic existence. All they can reply is some robotic "bleep" that only make sense to them, about what is happening in their robot-world. They don't understand how to not be robot, and don't understand me when I talk like a human instead.

Earlier I used to feel really aggressive and I would fantasize about how I killed all the people I saw that I hated.

The aggression was my driving-force that kept me forward at young age. I was going to show them all how much better I am. They all would realize that I am superiour. I honestly thought that I would become famous in one way or another, but eventually I met the wall. I tried to put myself higher then everyone, but ended up lower then all of them. I tried to reach the top, but when I started to see my limits, I gave up on everything.

So that has been me for the last ten years ago. Still I hate people, but I also put myself lower then everyone. I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And I have ended up pretty alone. I used to be the bad boy in school that got all the pretty girls and did all the things that no one else dared, but now I am hiding inside, and need strong medications just to go out the door, and the main part of my communication with other people is trough the internet. I am really scared of people, cause I don't understand the world they are living in at all, or how they can enjoy such a sick existence.

So I guess my hate have placed me on the outside of everything, in a position where I can only observe the lives of others, but not take part in it myself, because it just seem like a lie to me. I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

Not sure if anyone understand me at all. If anyone can put the finger on anything I write and explain how I can give up this hate, I would be thankful.

This post is not meant as any kind of insult or anything like it. I've just tried to describe a problem I have that is incompatible with Christianity.

Jeshu · Nov 23, 2008

Bellicus said:
I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone. I've hated people for all my life, and always thought of others as a sort of monkeys with incurable stupidity. Preprogrammed robots that just walk around acting after what their software is telling them to do, and having no idea they are doing it at all, but just experience that they do it, and getting updates from the other robots about how to continue their robotic existence. All they can reply is some robotic "bleep" that only make sense to them, about what is happening in their robot-world. They don't understand how to not be robot, and don't understand me when I talk like a human instead.

Earlier I used to feel really aggressive and I would fantasize about how I killed all the people I saw that I hated. Beating them with baseball bats, cutting them into pieces with a chainsaw, shooting them into a pulp with a shotgun, or just taking out several at once with a machine gun or heavy explosives.

The aggression was my driving-force that kept me forward at young age. I was going to show them all how much better I am. They all would realize that I am superiour. I honestly thought that I would become famous in one way or another, but eventually I met the wall. I tried to put myself higher then everyone, but ended up lower then all of them. I tried to reach the top, but when I started to see my limits, I gave up on everything.

So that has been me for the last ten years ago. Still I hate people, but I also put myself lower then everyone. I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And I have ended up pretty alone. I used to be the bad boy in school that got all the pretty girls and did all the things that no one else dared, but now I am hiding inside, and need strong medications just to go out the door, and the main part of my communication with other people is trough the internet. I am really scared of people, cause I don't understand the world they are living in at all, or how they can enjoy such a sick existence.

So I guess my hate have placed me on the outside of everything, in a position where I can only observe the lives of others, but not take part in it myself, because it just seem like a lie to me. I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

Not sure if anyone understand me at all. If anyone can put the finger on anything I write and explain how I can give up this hate, I would be thankful.

This post is not meant as any kind of insult or anything like it. I've just tried to describe a problem I have that is incompatible with Christianity.

My loveable friend!

You just exposed yourself completely - and revealed that within you -wickedness has life in you!

a - Son of Lawlessness!

Also one who Jesus will cast dead with the breath of His mouth!

For Jesus says to you who has been so bad and a puppet on the strings of the wicked - worse than those you so despised!

My Child - I love you!

So what shall we say?

To death with all that evil stuff in your heart, hating God's Creation gone wrong. There is no forgiveness in all that!

So Jesus says - Come with Me and will show Satan who the puppets are going to be on strings!

Hang evil for doing such wickedness to life!!!

Crucify him!!!
Cut him done as he stands
Never listen to him again!

To death with the wicked within! But salvation for those who repent from evil voice! (Ezekiel 18)

Oh the blood of the Lamb - worship God alone!

Amen.

Gerry

Ezekiel 18

The Soul Who Sins Will Die

1 The word of the LORD came to me:
2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
" 'The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge'?
3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son—both alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die.

(Spiritually you may see that you are the Father in faith and love for Christ.)
5 "Suppose there is a righteous man
who does what is just and right.
6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor's wife
or lie with a woman during her period.
7 He does not oppress anyone,
but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
8 He does not lend at usury
or take excessive interest. [a]
He withholds his hand from doing wrong
and judges fairly between man and man.
9 He follows my decrees
and faithfully keeps my laws.
That man is righteous;
he will surely live,
declares the Sovereign LORD.

(Yet you have a son within (you in another part of yourself - not loving and good) who is not like you - faithful and loving that is!)
10 "Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things
[b] 11 (though the father has done none of them):
"He eats at the mountain shrines.
He defiles his neighbor's wife.
12 He oppresses the poor and needy.
He commits robbery.
He does not return what he took in pledge.
He looks to the idols.
He does detestable things.
13 He lends at usury and takes excessive interest.
Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he will surely be put to death and his blood will be on his own head.

(Yet now this evil part in you also has a child and that child sees the evil of his dad and doesn't participates in his father's sin?)
14 "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:
15 "He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor's wife.
16 He does not oppress anyone
or require a pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
17 He withholds his hand from sin [c]
and takes no usury or excessive interest.
He keeps my laws and follows my decrees.
He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live.
18 But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.

(Can you understand my friend - one moment you hate - please know God has an eye on your life - the next you repent - all evil gone and a new slate - you died! So keep dying to sin and have MANY righteous sons - godly deeds of faith and love.)
19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
21 "But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
24 "But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die.

(See how you cannot say I am loving therefore it didn't matter that I hated at another time?)
25 "Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die. 27 But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. 28 Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Are my ways unjust, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?
30 "Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

Johnnz · Nov 23, 2008

Was your upbringing hurtful? Anger like that will have roots in real experiences.

Bless you for being so honest.

John
NZ

hsmommyofmany · Nov 23, 2008

Bellicus said:
I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone. I've hated people for all my life, and always thought of others as a sort of monkeys with incurable stupidity. Preprogrammed robots that just walk around acting after what their software is telling them to do, and having no idea they are doing it at all, but just experience that they do it, and getting updates from the other robots about how to continue their robotic existence. All they can reply is some robotic "bleep" that only make sense to them, about what is happening in their robot-world. They don't understand how to not be robot, and don't understand me when I talk like a human instead.

Earlier I used to feel really aggressive and I would fantasize about how I killed all the people I saw that I hated. Beating them with baseball bats, cutting them into pieces with a chainsaw, shooting them into a pulp with a shotgun, or just taking out several at once with a machine gun or heavy explosives.

The aggression was my driving-force that kept me forward at young age. I was going to show them all how much better I am. They all would realize that I am superiour. I honestly thought that I would become famous in one way or another, but eventually I met the wall. I tried to put myself higher then everyone, but ended up lower then all of them. I tried to reach the top, but when I started to see my limits, I gave up on everything.

So that has been me for the last ten years ago. Still I hate people, but I also put myself lower then everyone. I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And I have ended up pretty alone. I used to be the bad boy in school that got all the pretty girls and did all the things that no one else dared, but now I am hiding inside, and need strong medications just to go out the door, and the main part of my communication with other people is trough the internet. I am really scared of people, cause I don't understand the world they are living in at all, or how they can enjoy such a sick existence.

So I guess my hate have placed me on the outside of everything, in a position where I can only observe the lives of others, but not take part in it myself, because it just seem like a lie to me. I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

Not sure if anyone understand me at all. If anyone can put the finger on anything I write and explain how I can give up this hate, I would be thankful.

This post is not meant as any kind of insult or anything like it. I've just tried to describe a problem I have that is incompatible with Christianity.

WOW...it sounds like you have really suffered emotionally in your life...i am sorry...it sounds like to me you may have a mental illness.

have you ever been treated by a therapist or psychiatrist? i would suggest you look up antisocial personality disorder and narcissitic personality disorder and see if it seems like you. if you have not been in therapy...i would certainly suggest you give it a try.

i do not think any personality is incompatible with christianity. christianity is about loving and following Jesus...it has nothing to do with other people. God can use us all no matter our struggle.

Mat 11:28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."

sonic purity · Nov 23, 2008

I am confused, at first you say you hate everyone. Then you say it is in incompatibility with christianity. Answering that question might help. I am really interested in what you have to say, cause my youngest son seems to have this problem.

Do you hate your family also?

drich0150 · Nov 23, 2008

I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

I have spent alot of time where you live now. This life or "theater show" is only revealed to a select few, as such.. Like you said most of us are programed to be apart of this life, but God has purposed some of us with an opportunity to help him break up the show for those who wish to not be apart of it.. For this we are called to suffer, because if we are to observe and diagnose, we can not be apart of the thing we are sent to help others out of.. Because of this, it can be lonely, very lonely.. This is where alot of us who are given an opportunity to be apart of a God's work here, either pass or burn out on christianity altogether. Because they can't see past the loneliness, hate or self loathing..

Why do you think you hate? Have you asked for Godly wisdom or to have a mind or Heart that truly seeks what he wants, to have eyes that sees what God want for you to see? or ears that hear? Ect..Ect.. You see hypocrisy and sin as God sees it. You feel it and take offense to it as he does.. But there is something missing from this equation, The Compassion and love for those who commit these sins, and the acknowledgment for the sacrifice Jesus made for the sinners.

You see the sinner and the sin as the same.. This is where the hate boils over into selfrighteousness.. But at the same time you still have a sense of perspective in that your "judgment" doesn't exclude your own sins or yourself from this hate..

You are at a cross roads in your faith. either you develop this "gift" into wisdom and strength for the glory of God. or you let yourself be consumed by this anger, this hate, and your own brand of selfrighteousness. The choice is yours to make.. You are on the path to great Godly in-site and wisdom, but what you are experiencing is just a portion of the cost that you will have to pay to receive this gift in full..
You have already suffered a great deal, and because of it I have seen a steady improvement in the quality of thought that goes into your Questions, and into your posted advice.. (there have been instances where your advice has me rethinking my own, not that I am any kind of measure.)

You show a seemingly genuine interest in where you are with God and who he would have you become.. Now complete this trial and complete this section of your "Training" by turning to God Through "open ended prayer" and by the reading of his word. Seek him in this.. This is what he wants from you.. Learn that when "emotion" is over powering you especially if you are working for his glory and you become over whelmed by negative emotions that you lean harder on him.. Why do you think "Jeshu" gave you so much scripture? It because in what ever his equivalent was of this trial in his life he learned to lean on God, and he found him in scripture.. It's time for you to learn this as well.

On a side note.. This is something that doesn't need to happen right away, but know that you will have to work on getting out and back into public life. I struggle with this too. If you ask anyone that knows me socially, i believe that they would swear the other way. I seem out going and very likable, kinda always been the life of the party... To tell you the truth though, it is something I have to work on, and force myself to do.. I know how the "robots" work I can even speak in robot code if need be, I just don't like it, but unfortunately it is apart of the job description.. It's just a matter of putting what you like aside to do for God, and the "Talents/gifts" you have been entrusted with.

Remember, Don't give up! continue to fight the good fight, and see the race to the end. Use everything that God has given you to sow the seed of the true gospel, and one day you will hear: "Well done! my good and faithful servant."

Arclight610 · Nov 24, 2008

Throughout your whole post I don't think I saw "God" once. Have you prayed about this?

sonic purity · Nov 24, 2008

Sorry, I misread the last part. Do you hate your family as well as others?

Radagast · Nov 24, 2008

Bellicus said:
I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone.

Well it's good to recognise the problem, so you can work on dealing with it, and learning to love your neighbour as yourself.

Bellicus said:
I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And hating yourself is also wrong, but probably the inevitable result of hating everyone else.

Dealing with the problem you describe is part of growing in Christ. Apart from the obvious suggestion of prayer and Bible reading, I would also suggest reading some CS Lewis (starting with The Screwtape Letters), because I think you would be able to relate to the way he explains things.

God bless you. :prayer:

sonic purity · Nov 24, 2008

Radagast said:
Well it's good to recognise the problem, so you can work on dealing with it, and learning to love your neighbour as yourself.

And hating yourself is also wrong, but probably the inevitable result of hating everyone else.

Dealing with the problem you describe is part of growing in Christ. Apart from the obvious suggestion of prayer and Bible reading, I would also suggest reading some CS Lewis (starting with The Screwtape Letters), because I think you would be able to relate to the way he explains things.

God bless you.

I agree, "The Screwtape Letters" would help you better understand what make the robots do what they do. Because it is not from a human perspective.

Ariel · Nov 24, 2008

Bellicus, you may hate me, but I don't hate you. I don't know you that well, but when I pray for you I find myself caring about you deeply.

Your words about anger and hatred make me wonder how you were raised. What were the messages given to you in childhood? What "tapes" are still playing in your head?

I also had a lot of anger as a young adult. I turned that anger inward and it became depression so deep that I had to fight to get out of it. I had to turn off the tapes that continued to tell me I was no good and listen to something foreign to me: that God loves me, and that He doesn't make trash.

I know this: God is love. He loves you, you can have a better life if you want, but you will have to fight for it. God doesn't make trash; it's not His will for you to be hurting like this.

I am praying for you.

Bellicus · Nov 24, 2008

Thanks for your post Jeshu, I'll come back to you on PM, as I promised yesterday.

Johnnz said:
Was your upbringing hurtful? Anger like that will have roots in real experiences.

Bless you for being so honest.

John
NZ

Not sure if my upbringing was more hurtful then others. My parents always used to argue a lot, cause they really wanted to divorce, but waited with it till me and my brother got adult.

But it makes no sense to blame it on upbringing though, cause my brother is perfectly normal, got his own firm, house, cars, boat, wife, 3 children, top grades from school etc.

So I guess it got more to do with personal problems.

hsmommyofmany said:
WOW...it sounds like you have really suffered emotionally in your life...i am sorry...it sounds like to me you may have a mental illness.

have you ever been treated by a therapist or psychiatrist? i would suggest you look up antisocial personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder and see if it seems like you. if you have not been in therapy...i would certainly suggest you give it a try.

Antisocial and narcissistic personality disorder is far away from me, from tests I've taken. I scored 100% as schizotypal, but I never got any diagnosis for it, since I already are diagnosed bipolar, ocd and social anxiety, and since anxiety is part of affective disorders, and since anxiety in it self can produce a lot of symptoms that is part of other kinds of mental illnesses.

And I've been to therapy, but it gave me no improvement, so I ended up on disability.

And this post is about love for others really, and I can't see how mental illness got anything to do with it.

sonic purity said:
I am confused, at first you say you hate everyone. Then you say it is in incompatibility with christianity. Answering that question might help. I am really interested in what you have to say, cause my youngest son seems to have this problem.

Do you hate your family also?

I meant that hating my neighbor is incompatible with Christianity, since the bible tells me to love them. What question should I answer?

Your son hates everyone too?

I've been putting most/all of my family in the robot-category too, and I rather want to spend time alone then to spend time with them. I would rather live on the street and sleep in a paper-box with newspapers, then to live in the same house as most of them. That is not meant as a insult towards them, but just a honest description of my feelings. I like children better, cause they have clean minds, and haven't learned to become part of the robotic society yet.

drich0150 said:
On a side note.. This is something that doesn't need to happen right away, but know that you will have to work on getting out and back into public life. I struggle with this too. If you ask anyone that knows me socially, i believe that they would swear the other way. I seem out going and very likable, kinda always been the life of the party... To tell you the truth though, it is something I have to work on, and force myself to do.. I know how the "robots" work I can even speak in robot code if need be, I just don't like it, but unfortunately it is apart of the job description.. It's just a matter of putting what you like aside to do for God, and the "Talents/gifts" you have been entrusted with.

Thanks for your reply, you have a lot of good points. And I haven't thought of it as a gift, but I know that I see things that most people don't see, and I guess my error have been to put myself above all of them because of this. Maybe it have to do with that they bring me pain by not understanding me. If I would try to explain it all, then they would become scared, and their fear would turn into aggression towards me, or they would just ignore me. So I have maybe confused it with that people want to hurt me. It's been like that since I were a child, where I fight back in the start and rebelled, and then later I've just pulled away from all of it, cause it hurts too much.

It is interesting to hear that you can speak in "robot code" if you want to. I always get ignored if I try, or people look really suspicious, cause I do such a poor job with it.

And I don't think I will learn to do this by growing in my faith, but what I hope is that I will get enough strength to be the one I am and the same time to not hate everyone else for not being like me. I used to have the aggression as driving force to be me, but that didn't work for long. So maybe I can use love as a driving force instead.

And thanks for reminding me about "it don't have to happen right away", cause I guess that is a error I do, that I try to find some theory that would transform my mind at once.

Arclight610 said:
Throughout your whole post I don't think I saw "God" once. Have you prayed about this?

Yes, a lot. I've made prayer request about it earlier, and also tried to ask how to get more love in one of the sub forums, but I never got any real replies. If there is one thing I want more of, it is love, cause my hearth have been dead for too many years.

Radagast said:
Well it's good to recognise the problem, so you can work on dealing with it, and learning to love your neighbour as yourself.

And hating yourself is also wrong, but probably the inevitable result of hating everyone else.

Dealing with the problem you describe is part of growing in Christ. Apart from the obvious suggestion of prayer and Bible reading, I would also suggest reading some CS Lewis (starting with The Screwtape Letters), because I think you would be able to relate to the way he explains things.

God bless you.

Yes, my hate for everyone else has brought me to the position where I also hate myself. "Do as others, as you want others to do to you".

I've read The Screwtape Letters before, and also a couple other books by Lewis, and I want to read them again, cause I agree it is a person I can relate to by the way he explain things. I've tried to find books by him in a local Christian bookstore, but they didn't have any. Maybe I get lucky and find some in another bookstore somewhere.

Ariel said:
Bellicus, you may hate me, but I don't hate you. I don't know you that well, but when I pray for you I find myself caring about you deeply.

Your words about anger and hatred make me wonder how you were raised. What were the messages given to you in childhood? What "tapes" are still playing in your head?

I also had a lot of anger as a young adult. I turned that anger inward and it became depression so deep that I had to fight to get out of it. I had to turn off the tapes that continued to tell me I was no good and listen to something foreign to me: that God loves me, and that He doesn't make trash.

I know this: God is love. He loves you, you can have a better life if you want, but you will have to fight for it. God doesn't make trash; it's not His will for you to be hurting like this.

I am praying for you.

I don't hate you Ariel, I care about you and many others here on the forum, but that is mostly because it is good people. Who don't care about good people? That is my problem. Cause I should care about everyone, not just those that care about me.

Again the childhood-question, and I have already answered this. You ask for what "tapes" that are playing in my head, and that is not something I want to go public with, but I know that most of it got to do with personal problems, not problems with how I was raised.

Thanks for your prayer.

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There is two things that have come to my mind while answering these posts, and that is 1) I can choose to love others if I want to, my hatred for the robotic society is not something I have to keep on to. And 2) I can act on this love, and do good things, and by this get part in love for others, instead of hate for others.

Radagast · Nov 24, 2008

Bellicus said:
There is two things that have come to my mind while answering these posts, and that is 1) I can choose to love others if I want to, my hatred for the robotic society is not something I have to keep on to. And 2) I can act on this love, and do good things, and by this get part in love for others, instead of hate for others.

Very true.

Jeshu · Nov 24, 2008

Bellicus said:
...
1) I can choose to love others if I want to, my hatred for the robotic society is not something I have to keep on to.

And

2) I can act on this love, and do good things, and by this get part in love for others, instead of hate for others.

You agree?

Please carefully rethink your personal revelation!

I will l argue that you lost you ability to be free and choose for good. In your heart and mind the hateful one will just continue to speak without Jesus removing this from you through the TRUTH of His LOVE!

You have discovered hate but have you seen what fuelled these hot fires?

For example have you and do you see the following spirituality alive within you?

Lies - deception = 6 (The false prophet, The Snake, anti-Christ)
Wrong, evil, Hate = 6 (the harlot on the beast, the anti-Christ, the son of lawlessness.)
unloving control = 6 (Satan, Dragon, Beasts, Babylon.)

all this equals - a child of perdition!
These are the unholy ones according to the Bible. This is what our Lord will kill inside of you - no choice about that my friend - into the fire with you, until the above is all gone!

For isn't this how the process goes...

You hear lies about yourself, people and our God within - hotly does wrong flare-up evil hate to feed your heart and mind and Satan is controlling you through all this and making you feel SO depressed and miserable. (Please read Isaiah 47 and 48, and Rev 9, 17, 18, for example.)

As you can see dying to your sin this is the only way out!

So lets put the parameters up for you to spiritually die in.

Truth=7 (The Bible instead of false prophet.)
loving goodness=7 (love to fill you-up with good thoughts and feelings.)
Freedom in Christ=7 (Freedom to go and do wherever be in Heaven or visit Hell and/or anything in between!)

This equals - a Child of God.

This is work of The Holy Spirit inside of you for Jesus says The TRUTH shall set you FREE!

The outcome you are looking for;

The death of all hate towards God, yourself or any other thing good Created - as this is the kernel of Satan's spirit within us!

Instead love for all good Creation and ETERNAL HATE - called - The Lake Of Fire - for those evil ones who stuffed us up so badly!

So repentance would begin if your hate is beginning to focus on evil alone, and love for everyone else Created, flowing like LIVING waters inside your Chest! As then your judgement will be OVER!

I hope this is clear!

(Read this TRUTH in your heart - listen to what thoughts and feelings come up reading this - stay in loving truth as you read - that's the trick!)

Is 27
Deliverance of Israel

1 In that day,
the LORD will punish with his sword,
his fierce, great and powerful sword,
Leviathan the gliding serpent,
Leviathan the coiling serpent;
he will slay the monster of the sea.

(Can you remember Job 41?)

2 In that day
"Sing about a fruitful vineyard:
3 I, the LORD, watch over it;
I water it continually.
I guard it day and night
so that no one may harm it.
4 I am not angry.
If only there were briers and thorns confronting me!
I would march against them in battle;
I would set them all on fire.
5 Or else let them come to me for refuge;
let them make peace with me,
yes, let them make peace with me."
(Your job my friend making peace with God.)

6 In days to come Jacob will take root,
Israel will bud and blossom
and fill all the world with fruit.
7 Has the LORD struck her
as he struck down those who struck her?
Has she been killed
as those were killed who killed her?
8 By warfare [a] and exile you contend with her
with his fierce blast he drives her out,
as on a day the east wind blows.

(Hear your lot in evil my friend!)

9 By this, then, will Jacob's guilt be atoned for,
and this will be the full fruitage of the removal of his sin:
When he makes all the altar stones
to be like chalk stones crushed to pieces,
no Asherah poles [b] or incense altars
will be left standing.
10 The fortified city stands desolate,
an abandoned settlement, forsaken like the desert;
there the calves graze,
there they lie down;
they strip its branches bare.
11 When its twigs are dry, they are broken off
and women come and make fires with them.
For this is a people without understanding;
so their Maker has no compassion on them,
and their Creator shows them no favor.

(And this will be the result!)

12 In that day the LORD will thresh from the flowing Euphrates [c] to the Wadi of Egypt, and you, O Israelites, will be gathered up one by one. 13

And in that day a great trumpet will sound. Those who were perishing in Assyria and those who were exiled in Egypt will come and worship the LORD on the holy mountain in Jerusalem.

Vollkommen Warrior · Nov 26, 2008

Bellicus said:
I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone. I've hated people for all my life, and always thought of others as a sort of monkeys with incurable stupidity. Preprogrammed robots that just walk around acting after what their software is telling them to do, and having no idea they are doing it at all, but just experience that they do it, and getting updates from the other robots about how to continue their robotic existence. All they can reply is some robotic "bleep" that only make sense to them, about what is happening in their robot-world. They don't understand how to not be robot, and don't understand me when I talk like a human instead.

Earlier I used to feel really aggressive and I would fantasize about how I killed all the people I saw that I hated.

The aggression was my driving-force that kept me forward at young age. I was going to show them all how much better I am. They all would realize that I am superiour. I honestly thought that I would become famous in one way or another, but eventually I met the wall. I tried to put myself higher then everyone, but ended up lower then all of them. I tried to reach the top, but when I started to see my limits, I gave up on everything.

So that has been me for the last ten years ago. Still I hate people, but I also put myself lower then everyone. I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And I have ended up pretty alone. I used to be the bad boy in school that got all the pretty girls and did all the things that no one else dared, but now I am hiding inside, and need strong medications just to go out the door, and the main part of my communication with other people is trough the internet. I am really scared of people, cause I don't understand the world they are living in at all, or how they can enjoy such a sick existence.

So I guess my hate have placed me on the outside of everything, in a position where I can only observe the lives of others, but not take part in it myself, because it just seem like a lie to me. I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

Not sure if anyone understand me at all. If anyone can put the finger on anything I write and explain how I can give up this hate, I would be thankful.

This post is not meant as any kind of insult or anything like it. I've just tried to describe a problem I have that is incompatible with Christianity.

First this sounds like depression doing some of the talking. Know this and realize that right now you have poop colored glasses on. Anyone with the lack of seretonin that you have would prolly feel REAL bad too.

It's not entirely your fault BUT own what is, learn from it and don't make the same mistake twice. Learn your triggers - better. Only you can figure this out by going to counseling. Get the right meds prescribed so you get the right mix of chems you were prolly missing from birth.

Regardless of whether it goes with Christianity or not know that Jesus still came to save you and Christianity (Jesus) is the only truth. Ok? Thanks God that there is a forum like this for you to speak on as well. :pray:

p.s. Go get a book called "I don't have enough faith to be an Atheist" and concentrate on killing the doubts instead of the people. You are here for a reason that God has for you! Do these things and you will be on a better path. God bless.

spidergains · Nov 26, 2008

Bellicus said:
I've come to the conclusion that I hate almost everyone. I've hated people for all my life, and always thought of others as a sort of monkeys with incurable stupidity. Preprogrammed robots that just walk around acting after what their software is telling them to do, and having no idea they are doing it at all, but just experience that they do it, and getting updates from the other robots about how to continue their robotic existence. All they can reply is some robotic "bleep" that only make sense to them, about what is happening in their robot-world. They don't understand how to not be robot, and don't understand me when I talk like a human instead.

Earlier I used to feel really aggressive and I would fantasize about how I killed all the people I saw that I hated.

The aggression was my driving-force that kept me forward at young age. I was going to show them all how much better I am. They all would realize that I am superiour. I honestly thought that I would become famous in one way or another, but eventually I met the wall. I tried to put myself higher then everyone, but ended up lower then all of them. I tried to reach the top, but when I started to see my limits, I gave up on everything.

So that has been me for the last ten years ago. Still I hate people, but I also put myself lower then everyone. I hate myself more then anything, cause I have failed utterly in almost everything in life.

And I have ended up pretty alone. I used to be the bad boy in school that got all the pretty girls and did all the things that no one else dared, but now I am hiding inside, and need strong medications just to go out the door, and the main part of my communication with other people is trough the internet. I am really scared of people, cause I don't understand the world they are living in at all, or how they can enjoy such a sick existence.

So I guess my hate have placed me on the outside of everything, in a position where I can only observe the lives of others, but not take part in it myself, because it just seem like a lie to me. I just don't have the ability to take part in it anymore, cause I am so convinced that it is just a theater-show everyone are living in. And I guess I am right. Maybe I just see it more clearly for unknown reasons.

Not sure if anyone understand me at all. If anyone can put the finger on anything I write and explain how I can give up this hate, I would be thankful.

This post is not meant as any kind of insult or anything like it. I've just tried to describe a problem I have that is incompatible with Christianity.

I had (have) similar feelings about the human race myself. We've wrecked this planet when we were entrusted by God to take care of it. I once considered humans as scum lower than animals.

Examine your words about humanity and see if any of these apply to Jesus of the Gospels. As hard as you try, you will find no fault in this man--He alone redeems and reconciles us as children in the Kingdom of God.

If Jesus can find it in his heart to forgive scum like you, me, the Romans and the Jews, then so must we! It's the only way to live the Christian life.

Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgivenfor she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little. Luke 7:47

Fairmontackside · Nov 26, 2008

You hate others.

You might have psychopathic tendencies or might actually be psychopathic.

This doesn't mean what most people think it means.

Psychopathic simply means someone who does not have the ability to feel or empathize the plight of others. You might be in this situation.

It's a disability many people have, and most psychopathic people are safe and harmless. It doesn't mean crazy or dangerous (note: there is not such thing as crazy, just mental illness, similar to physical illness).

Just keep in mind that all those people of the world who you see as robots (that word "robot" is what made me think of psychopathic) are people who are just as sad as you at times, and lonely.

When you go into a public situation and see a hundred people, keep in mind that some of them are in pain emotionally, just like you.

You can help yourself by helping them. Serve others, in the name of the Lord, and you will be freed.

Giving yourself to Jesus is very, VERY difficult. I did it a year ago and am still surprised that I did it. I sat on the front porch of my home, alone, and prayed out loud to Christ. I gave him my heart and soul, and confessed to Him my weakness.

I was in your shoes.

The Lord changed my heart overnight.

I used to look at everyone as a robot, an idiot. A moron. Give then any name you want. They were all stupid and I was better.

Now I see them all as children of God, and love them all. I know they are fools, but so am I, and God loves us all.

I want to help them. Sure, they are idiots, but so am I, and I want to make the lives of others better.

Serve your fellow man. This will please God and you.

Jeshu · Nov 27, 2008

Fairmontackside said:
You hate others.

You might have psychopathic tendencies or might actually be psychopathic.

This doesn't mean what most people think it means.

Psychopathic simply means someone who does not have the ability to feel or empathize the plight of others. You might be in this situation.

It's a disability many people have, and most psychopathic people are safe and harmless. It doesn't mean crazy or dangerous (note: there is not such thing as crazy, just mental illness, similar to physical illness).

Just keep in mind that all those people of the world who you see as robots (that word "robot" is what made me think of psychopathic) are people who are just as sad as you at times, and lonely.

When you go into a public situation and see a hundred people, keep in mind that some of them are in pain emotionally, just like you.

You can help yourself by helping them. Serve others, in the name of the Lord, and you will be freed.

Giving yourself to Jesus is very, VERY difficult. I did it a year ago and am still surprised that I did it. I sat on the front porch of my home, alone, and prayed out loud to Christ. I gave him my heart and soul, and confessed to Him my weakness.

I was in your shoes.

The Lord changed my heart overnight.

I used to look at everyone as a robot, an idiot. A moron. Give then any name you want. They were all stupid and I was better.

Now I see them all as children of God, and love them all. I know they are fools, but so am I, and God loves us all.

I want to help them. Sure, they are idiots, but so am I, and I want to make the lives of others better.

Serve your fellow man. This will please God and you.

Dear Brother I love you!

Honestly you know the secret of the kingdom - Jesus alive in your chest - my witness is like yours - LOVING TRUTH - healed me completely as well.

And so much more is He, who lives in Spirit and Truth within, - all praise to Him.

:clap:

Gerry

Jeshu · Nov 27, 2008

Zech 1:16-2:1
16 "Therefore, this is what the LORD says: 'I will return to Jerusalem with mercy, and there my house will be rebuilt. And the measuring line will be stretched out over Jerusalem,' declares the LORD Almighty. (look at your broken life and know he also means you.)

17 "Proclaim further: This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'My towns will again overflow with prosperity, and the LORD will again comfort Zion and choose Jerusalem.'"(Good news.)

18 Then I looked up-and there before me were four horns!
Horns mean powers/rulers either in or out side of ourselves. Can you see how in selfishness you have ruled your inner reality, with little thought for the good of others, unlovingness ruling your time in grace and acquiring riches for yourself - because you thought you were better than those puppets bringing your arrogance and pride. The rewards of unfaithful one listening to lies building himself an abomination which causes desolation (Matt 24 kicks into gear - Please - are you awake now?) and your terrible depression is how deep you have already fallen into the Hell of being that you have brought alive within you - utter unloving evil claiming God's grace is abominable in nature you must agree with me on that? (Please Read The book of Daniel and see for yourself.)

19 I asked the angel who was speaking to me, "What are these?" He answered me, "These are the horns that scattered Judah, Israel and Jerusalem." God's people/the chosen, where murdered and slain by these forces and taken into captivity by such thoughts and feelings ruling your heart! Four spiritual enemies here they are again - selfishness, enriching, unloving, dishonesty, the worst spiritual enemies of God in our hearts - as such makes us anti-Christ in nature - however such forces let us go Home in The End to rebuild Zion. Please understand that selfishness, you in your big I, are going to be last this first round of meeting Jesus within - that is if you want to be around at all in the next round - for that is what Jesus says - deny yourself and live for our Heavenly Father, and the other, for that is the Spirit of Christ, He is like that as well as you know to be true - so why listen to spirituality that is not His? So let God's children go home, your weak and sinful self in sin - rebuild Zion and the temple so our Heavenly Father Brother can have His throne within - and you may rule with Christ Himself over your inner being - your life. That is the job you are facing with much opposition as you will see. Once you get back in your promised land overgrown and hostile to your plans to rebuild your understand of God Almighty so you can live with Him always and not just sometimes - in agony because of your unforgiven sin - yet Christ will return and cleanse your soul of wickedness - (hopefully all attacking you and you fighting it to the hilt, when He comes!)

20 Then the LORD showed me four craftsmen.

21 I asked, "What are these coming to do?" He answered, "These are the horns that scattered Judah (that is where love for God dwells - Zion) so that no one could raise his head, but the craftsmen have come to terrify them and throw down these horns of the nations who lifted up their horns against the land of Judah to scatter its people."

Can you see spiritually these Craftsman are already working on you for years, as you also love Jesus - Nown watch them at work. How Jesus will rescue you from utter desolation (Think about Matt 24) and put you straight again - restored you in His loving truth and these CRAFTSMAN build a spiritual temple - according to Ezekiel's blueprint - in your heart - Keep watching love for God grow and blossom - it is awesome to see His glory right within. Him dwelling within you - you praising Jesus for getting you out of your Hell - for what a God you may serve!)

My building process took 14 years. The destruction of - selfishness, enriching(spiritual for me), unloving, dishonesty - I suffered terribly for I didn't know how to die to my sin but paid the last penny stuck in a very fiery jail! Yet God's LOVING TRUTH - JESUS CHRIST - got me out of this Hell and filled my starving heart with food I have never had the pleasure to eat - getting to know Him one could call that.

Have a nice feed I hope you read in LOVE FOR GOD, not just despair yourself in sin - in loving truth this message will delight you, but in sinful self you will suffer agony until you die to wickedness and find forgiveness in your heart to forgive yourself and above others for being tricked by evil to become evil. Please die to unlovingness and listening to lies, all the time, every time you fall repent - and you will be out of your desolation in no time - honestly true!

That God's Spirit of love may open your eyes to more than sinful wrong. For loving truth taste much nicer!

Gerry

Thecrossinfocus · Nov 28, 2008

Abide in His love ... the overflow of it will begin to reach into you and out of you - that is guaranteed on His word!

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