Hey guys, help me summarize

Kirk Cameron: "Darwin said that for Evolution to be true you have to be able to prove transitional forms.... one animal transitioning into another... and, all through the fossil record we never find one of these *Holds up Photo* - A crocoduck!"

"Crocoduck" on youtube shows him saying it.

suzmot said:

Kirk Cameron: "Darwin said that for Evolution to be true you have to be able to prove transitional forms.... one animal transitioning into another... and, all through the fossil record we never find one of these *Holds up Photo* - A crocoduck!"

"Crocoduck" on youtube shows him saying it.

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Aron-Ra said:

That's good, but I need to know who said it.

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The croco-duck ia a Kirk Cameron/ Ray Comfort classic. He claims that scientists are looking for a "bird-reptile transitional" and then shows a photoshoped duck with an alligator head. He then says "see you are all laughing." It both serves to showcase creationists lies and silly characitures of the theory of evolution they use to make evolution look ridiculous.
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ages?q=crocoduck+cameron&gbv=2&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Aron-Ra said:

just a photo and a quote in each case.

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Will this qualify?



Quote: "Roger --- 'go' for throttle-up."

AV1611VET said:

Will this qualify?

Quote: "Roger --- 'go' for throttle-up."

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Wow. I cannot believe you posted a completely irrelevant photo, with an irrelevant quote.

Keep up the Good Work for Creationism.

Aron-Ra said:

Once this semester is over, I hope to post the 14th video in my series of creationists' foundational falsehoods. This one counters the idea that creationism is either dependant on, supported by, or even cares about -evidence.

Since everything in the list will inevitably be a P.R.A.T.T., then rather than refute anything in this video, I want to arrange a series of stills illustrating their various allegations of a supported position; just a photo and a quote in each case. So that I don't overlook something worthy of remembrance, I would like to hear everyone's favorite examples of (1) erroneous assumptions, (2) prejudicial bias, (3) logical fallacies, (4) ridiculous parody, (5) misdefined terms, (6) misquoted authorities, (7) distorted data, (8) fraudulent figures, and (9) out-and-out lies -relevant to this topic. From that list I would also like to choose the best example of (10) creationists revealing inexcuseable ignorance in the very fields where they claim expertise.

The crazier the claim the more likely I'll want to use it.

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By 'creationist' one assume you mean modern creation belief, and the popular attempts thus far, to relate it to science. Naturally, such attempts, especially as they have been in the early stages, were crude attempts. Like science itself, it has been a learning process. Rather than focus on some individuals that were not all that interested in learning. and some silly things they promoted, it would be better to focus on what is known. What is known, according to science, is what is truly amusing, and a lot of fun to hold up and slap around, is the big bang, and the pond, and such drooling fables, that men have taken seriously!

To hold up flood geology, and misconceptions of what is called evolutionary theory as something to flog, as if it helps your busted, fraudulent fable factory lies of the devil, whether or not you are even capable of recognizing it, is the act of a coward, and a punk.

Now you don't want that do you? Go play in the sandbox.

AV1611VET said:

Will this qualify?

Quote: "Roger --- 'go' for throttle-up."

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What a good example of creationist class... exploiting death.. and still getting it wrong.

Split Rock said:

Wow. I cannot believe you posted a completely irrelevant photo, with an irrelevant quote.

Morcova said:

What a good example of creationist class... exploiting death.. and still getting it wrong.

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Oh --- I'm sorry --- I saw this ---

Aron-Ra said:

I would like to hear everyone's favorite examples of (1) erroneous assumptions,

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--- and was responding accordingly.

AV1611VET said:

Oh --- I'm sorry --- I saw this ------ and was responding accordingly.

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No you weren't, you were showing once again that you are completely ignorant of basic science, as well as history.

Morcova said:

No you weren't, you were showing once again that you are completely ignorant of basic science, as well as history.

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Kinda looks to me like others were not so up on basic science either --- either that or they were, and ignored it.

AV1611VET said:

Kinda looks to me like others were not so up on basic science either --- either that or they were, and ignored it.

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According to the investigative report on the Challenger disaster, managers at key positions were aware of the flaw that lead to the disaster since 1977 but failed to address it. They also disregarded warnings of engineers that launching on such a cold day should not be done. In other words, the science was not at fault here, but rather the organisational culture and decision-making process within NASA. If people had actually listened to the scientists, instead of disregarding them, the disaster might have been prevented.

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If people had actually listened to the scientists, instead of disregarding them, the disaster might have been prevented.

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I couldn't agree more, but are you telling me that there are no scientists in management at NASA?

Not one person in the chain of command was a scientist?

In any event --- this is my last post here --- I'm not going to hijack this thread.

AV1611VET said:

I couldn't agree more, but are you telling me that there are no scientists in management at NASA?

Not one person in the chain of command was a scientist?

In any event --- this is my last post here --- I'm not going to hijack this thread.

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So if someone who has been a scientist does management work, he suddenly should not be susceptible to the same mistakes inherent in that line of work? Becoming a scientist suddenly makes you magically incapable of making management errors? When managers ignore engineers and scientists shouting "don't do that!" make a mistake, it's just managers but when managers who also work as scientists do the same, it suddenly becomes something else? What kind of other magical powers do you assign to us?

The most blatant example of prejudicial bias is in the mission statement of the Creation Research Institute - the bit where they explicitly state that evidence contradicting the Bible must be wrong

I like the extreme disagreement between creationists over which fossil is "clearly human" and which is "clearly ape".

Well it is still good to know that no matter what happens in our world that consistency holds fast. Here you are Aron-RA still here taking your valuable time to eradicate the belief in God.

I am impressed, it must be difficult with such a busy schedule and yet you still can come in here and do what you do.

There is a certain sense of comfort in knowing that I can come here and it is always and forever the same.

Hi.

Oncedeceived said:

Well it is still good to know that no matter what happens in our world that consistency holds fast. Here you are Aron-RA still here taking your valuable time to eradicate the belief in God.

I am impressed, it must be difficult with such a busy schedule and yet you still can come in here and do what you do.

There is a certain sense of comfort in knowing that I can come here and it is always and forever the same.

Hi.

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And on the other side, you have AV1611VET, fighting the good fight by spouting nonsense about things he knows nothing about.

Just a suggestion, and I don't know if you've gone into this on your previous videos, but why not also mention good standards of evidence, so that you have a direct comparison to show why these Creationist claims of evidence fall so very short of the mark?