One day soon we are going to be knee deep in the tribulation, that anti christ will have revealed himself, the mark of the beast is going to be being distributed and no one will have been raptured. Yes many will be very disappointed.
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Big Mouth Nana
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Very!! Fortunately, the Antichrist has already been revealed to some...and not just me. I won't be deceived, and neither will those who have their eyes and ears open, and most importantly, listening to the Spirit of God!!!!!
It is going to come down to many people dropping their little Eschatologies and thinking, where did I miss it (the false rapture doctrine)? I can tell you right now where it was was missed...head study, listening to your Pastors, and not opening up your Spirits and allowing God to speak through His Word directly to YOU!! Been there and done that myself, until God in His mercy got me more into the Word on my own. Pray for the truth, and He will be faithful to show you the truth if you really want to know it. Time is short, so you better get into prayer NOW.
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There will be no disappointment for those who are born again and waiting for Him. There will certainly be disappointment for those who miss it and have to endure the time of testing.
Rev 3:10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
Rev 2:10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.
As I've said in the thread entitled Revelation says 2 sets of martyrs, there is clearly the giving of white robes to the Bride who is snatched up to the throne of God before wrath (set #1) and "the rest of her offspring" who will need to endure testing and will be judged by the Bride after wrath (set #2).
Isa 26:19But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead.
Isa 26:20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.
Isa 26:21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer.
Did you catch that? A resurrection BEFORE wrath and described as a BIRTH, no less (referring to the Rev 12 thread)!
Psa 75:2When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.
Did you catch that? God receives his people BEFORE judgment!
Rev 3:10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
Rev 2:10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.
As I've said in the thread entitled Revelation says 2 sets of martyrs, there is clearly the giving of white robes to the Bride who is snatched up to the throne of God before wrath (set #1) and "the rest of her offspring" who will need to endure testing and will be judged by the Bride after wrath (set #2).
Isa 26:19But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead.
Isa 26:20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.
Isa 26:21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer.
Did you catch that? A resurrection BEFORE wrath and described as a BIRTH, no less (referring to the Rev 12 thread)!
Psa 75:2When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.
Did you catch that? God receives his people BEFORE judgment!
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I wonder if its actually going to be us doing the judging(only when we are purified and capable) but that I can't be sure of
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HisdaughterJen
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1Cr 6:2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
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I don't believe the antichrist will revealed himself yet but I do know of a person who will revealed himself soon and his Day of Declaration is Near
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A homosexual exhibitionist should be easy to spot the moment he reveals himself. I sure hope I am raptured by then.
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??? Me too. But people tell me he will be a homosexual thus I figure he may also be an all around social deviant....who may reveal himself.
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HisdaughterJen
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You know, that may be a mistranslation or a speculative assumption. There has to be a reason, though, that we are missing....
Dan 11:37He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.
Dan 11:37He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.
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Thanks Jen,
I was trying to draw that out. Sometimes when I say it people my think "oh that just gwynedd again. "
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Thanks Jen,
I was trying to draw that out. Sometimes when I say it people my think "oh that just gwynedd again. "
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No, it's a weird thing to put in Daniel 11, describing him. If I remember correctly, someone once said that "the one desired by women" is a god that was popular at the time of Daniel. I've heard other people say that the anti-christ must be gay just as in this thread. But, it seems like we're definitely missing something either in translation or understanding of what that means exactly.
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The anti-christ is a homosexual?!?!?! Wow, that's weird. I guess nothing should be considered suprising these days. Homosexuality isn't considered so deviant, anymore.
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Whether the anti christ is gay or no we will be here when he reveals himself and many will fall away from the faith because they believed the lie of the pretrib rapture.
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You won't be here if you are born of the Spirit. Those who weren't ready when the white robes are given to the Bride will be here when the anti-christ is revealed and endure the time of testing. (Rev 2, 3, 6, 12, 13)
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Born of the Spirit does not mean dead, dead to the flesh hopefully, but not actually dead. The only way to avoid the trib is to die first. The pretrib rapture is a lie and nothing more, a satanic deception.
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The topic of this thread is that the pretribbers are going to be disappointed when the trib comes. It is not my hope to be here for the tribulation, it is just the truth of scripture. HdJ is not going to be rapture no one is except for those that are alive and the end of the tribulation and have survive the reign of the anti christ not being martyred.
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My question is, who gives a care if the Antichrist is gay or not? Personally, I don't believe that he is, but I don't really care. The problem isn't going to be with his gender preference, but deceiving the earth. His spirit has already done that quite nicely by the pre-trib doctrine already. How many with the pre-trib doctrine are going to be deceived even more since they have already allowed themselves to be deceived this far with the truth staring them in the face. Not only this, but it is plain as day in Matt 24:19-31...immediately after the tribulation of those days, then it shows Christ coming in the clouds with the sound of a trumpet. How hard is this people? He is only coming back one time for the church...immediately after the tribulation and NOT sooner. If you don't believe it, then you are calling Jesus a liar because He said it!!
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