Dark understanding of science gets darker

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Dad is right, if a person is stupid to start with, why bother to try and understand the universe?
it's so much easier to convince yourself a magical thing made it, no work no effort, I'm with Dad,
so keep spreading the word to the other stupids like us Dad.

The word is getting out that science is stabbing in the dark, no worries. You can try all you like, you ain't going to understand creation, beyond some superficial, nearby, shallow, present only nature based mickey mouse grasp. That is why so called science simply calls the vast majority of the universe dark!! To them is is! Now they even call the remnant movements of creation a dark flow! Ridiculous. How long must we suffer this ignorance, that calls itself science??
Happiness is knowing you don't need to understand, religion answers every question,
it allows us to stay as happy and as thick as we are, all hail religion,
we will stay in the dark because it's peaceful and it doesn't hurt our eyes or our brains.

I'm with Dad.
Well, sorry to break the news to ya, but, no, you are not. I fully intend to really know the mysteries of the universe, in a way science could only drool over. To us it IS given to know the mysteries of God. We have an eternity to explore, and what we will explore will NOT be what you think is the universe!! This universe will pass away. It is not even included in the useful knowledge of forever. Why piddle in puddles when there is eternity to swim in?
 
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I have an alternative question for you. How can anyone take the guesses, and ad hoc ramblings of Creationists on a prior Non-Physical Only universe, Embedded Age, Instantaneous Coal Formation. Placental mammals turning Instantaneously into Marsupials, Giant Diamonds at the center of the Earth, Greenland flipping around during The Flood, The Flood waters flying off into space to land on Mars, Nuclear Wars fouight between Angels creating 4-legged grasshoppers, etc., even somewhat seriously?[/quoote]

Embedded age is a crock, and crutch for the uninformed, and weak in faith. Not only Greenland flipped around, but the continents of earth, close to the time of the flood. Instant coal, I think is flood geology, which is weak, and passe. Whatever is at the center of the earth, we don't know, and only silly lying anti creation science pretends to know. Marsupial evolution was not instant, I have little doubt it took days, or weeks, even years possibly! The locusts "go" on all four wings. Watch them fly sometime.

Soo, you ask how God could be taken seriously? Easy. No man has squat to say about it, that is more than brain doubt candy.
Matthew 7:5
"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye"

Proverbs 1:22
"How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge"
The beam in the eye deals with judgmental attitudes of the devoid toward other men. Nothing to do with God based deductions about creation. Scorners are those that oppose God, and His word, not those that doubt Granny bacteria and the speck that created the universe. Deal with it.
 
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E: And dad, our understanding of science is not "dark". Our understanding of science is perfect.

Science's understanding of the world is imperfect.

If almost all the universe is declared DARK, by a wave of the wand of so called science, of course it's understanding is dark!! You might 'perfectly' understand a flashlight, it matters not, when the flashlight is supposed to shed light on the far reaches of the universe! The flashlight of science ends up casting almost all the universe as dark!! Ridiculous. Such extremes people go to deny God and creation, and the spiritual!



Isa 5:20 - Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
 
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From the way you write Dad, it would seem you can't wait for death,
unfortunately, when the lights go out for you, the lights will also go out for your God.
C'est la vie.

I would't know about waiting for death, sorry, ask the unsaved about that one! I do, however, look forward to the end of the reign of tyranny, and oppression, and fable mongering, and utter darkness that is so called science. The Christless, bible opposing, creation denying, spiritually null and void swallow whatever is funneled in the mouth crowd. Is that OK with you?
 
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How long must we suffer this ignorance, that calls itself science??

Yes, dad... just look around you at our civilization.. the car you drive, the house you live in, the computer you are typing on. All because of the "ignorance that calls itself science." You are a sad little scoffer, that bites the hand that feeds you.
 
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Yes, dad... just look around you at our civilization.. the car you drive, the house you live in, the computer you are typing on. All because of the "ignorance that calls itself science." You are a sad little scoffer, that bites the hand that feeds you.
Your pathetic attempts to give the glory to man's utterly limited knowledge are noted. The bits of knowledge that filtered through the fables and dreams of men are not due to their antiChrist thoughts. Sorry that is news. The dark flow that the ignoramuses decided to name it, did not bring a computer to your desk! The imaginary speck o soup did not make any planes, or cars! This is news?? Try to get some sort of grip here.
 
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Isa 5:20 - Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
But remember dad, we only know what is good because of evil.


It said so in the Tao Te Ching. Chapert two.

"Under Haven all can see beauty as beauty only because there is ugliness.
All can know good as good only because there is evil."
 
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But remember dad, we only know what is good because of evil.


It said so in the Tao Te Ching. Chapert two.

"Under Haven all can see beauty as beauty only because there is ugliness.
All can know good as good only because there is evil."

No. Think it this way:

If you only know good. Then even you do not know what good really is, you will not know what evil is either.
But if you only know evil, then you will also know there must be a thing called good.

That is why it is said: you will (must) know good, only if there is evil. It does not say: good exists because of evil.
 
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Yes, dad... just look around you at our civilization.. the car you drive, the house you live in, the computer you are typing on. All because of the "ignorance that calls itself science." You are a sad little scoffer, that bites the hand that feeds you.

Who said all those things are not items of ignorance?
 
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Yes, dad... just look around you at our civilization.. the car you drive, the house you live in, the computer you are typing on. All because of the "ignorance that calls itself science." You are a sad little scoffer, that bites the hand that feeds you.

And then scoff at the ER doctor who resets his jaw after the hand he bites decks him.
 
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Your pathetic attempts to give the glory to man's utterly limited knowledge are noted. The bits of knowledge that filtered through the fables and dreams of men are not due to their antiChrist thoughts. Sorry that is news. The dark flow that the ignoramuses decided to name it, did not bring a computer to your desk! The imaginary speck o soup did not make any planes, or cars! This is news?? Try to get some sort of grip here.

So why should we give you glory? Your knowledge is far more limited.
 
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juvenissun said:
If you only know good. Then even you do not know what good really is, you will not know what evil is either.
But if you only know evil, then you will also know there must be a thing called good.

That makes no sense. Why should knowing evil result in knowing what good is, but not the other way around?

And, AV, when I said "All of a sudden trust the methods used by science?"... That was directed, albeit poorly, to dad, not you. My pologies.

So i'd like to hear dad's explanation. If Science is such...[...]the reign of tyranny, and oppression, and fable mongering, and utter darkness that is so called science. The Christless, bible opposing, creation denying, spiritually null and void swallow whatever is funneled in the mouth [crowd],"... then dad must be a member of this crowd. I mean, he does accept the findings of science, as can be seen from the OP.

Isn't this a bit... I dunno... hypocritical? dad?
 
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Your pathetic attempts to give the glory to man's utterly limited knowledge are noted.
You can include the Bible on that list of "pathetic attempts to give the glory to man's utterly limited knowledge." Because the Bible was written by Men, not God.


The bits of knowledge that filtered through the fables and dreams of men are not due to their antiChrist thoughts. Sorry that is news.
What "Anti-Christ" thoughts? Science has nothing to do with such things.


The dark flow that the ignoramuses decided to name it, did not bring a computer to your desk! The imaginary speck o soup did not make any planes, or cars! This is news?? Try to get some sort of grip here.
So, you will pick and choose what you think (with your poor understanding of science) which science you will accept and which you will not? On what basis do you critisize experts in their field? Either accept all of what you see around you (based as it is on science), or reject all of it and live in a cave. The Peanut Gallery is close. :p
 
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dad said:
The bits of knowledge that filtered through the fables and dreams of men are not due to their antiChrist thoughts.

You think science revolves around antichristendom?

What about hindu scientists? Muslim scientists? You think they give a _____ about some random Christian God? But they must also be in science only to disprove/deny the Christian God, amirite?
 
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But remember dad, we only know what is good because of evil.


It said so in the Tao Te Ching. Chapert two.

"Under Haven all can see beauty as beauty only because there is ugliness.
All can know good as good only because there is evil."
How would you know that we did not know good before the fall?? Try to stick to what you know, if you want to come off making claims.
 
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So why should we give you glory? Your knowledge is far more limited.
It matters not what you like to believe, just don't pretend your extra observed present state universe is a certain way. You have absolutely no way of knowing.

Those that clue in to a creator might have some inkling, because we read the cheat sheet, rather than have most everything 'dark'!!

Do not call your darkness light.
 
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That makes no sense. Why should knowing evil result in knowing what good is, but not the other way around?

And, AV, when I said "All of a sudden trust the methods used by science?"... That was directed, albeit poorly, to dad, not you. My pologies.

So i'd like to hear dad's explanation. If Science is such...[...]the reign of tyranny, and oppression, and fable mongering, and utter darkness that is so called science. The Christless, bible opposing, creation denying, spiritually null and void swallow whatever is funneled in the mouth [crowd],"... then dad must be a member of this crowd. I mean, he does accept the findings of science, as can be seen from the OP.

Isn't this a bit... I dunno... hypocritical? dad?
There are no findings of science regarding the extra observed universe, are you forgetting?? Neither are there any about the spiritual of any kind! Neither are there findings of science about any same or different state, there is just story telling!!
The knowledge of us men that exists in the fishbowl is fine, long as we use it right. Believers have as much credit for actual knowledge as so called science denizens of darkness have, and then some!!

You may not have credit at all for man's actual knowledge, only the blame for the anti reason, anti God, anti history, anti spiritual, fables that have been foisted on us in the name of actual science. There is a difference. Not all so called science is equal. The trick is learning the difference, rather than ever learning, and never being able to come to a knowledge of which is which!!
 
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