No Jesus was not a "liberal" in his day. Saying "whoever divorces his wife and marrys another commits adultry" is not liberal. So please, don't put Jesus in a position he is not. Jesus is the Son of God, God on earth. There is no catagory for him.
Oh, I believe you are wrong. Jesus spoke wih prostitutes, hung out with sinners. He challenged authority even to the point of letting a woman guilty of adultery go free when she should have been executed. He changed much. He did not stick to what was perceived as the moral norm of the day, in fact he shook that at it's very core. I am not syaing that Jesus would be Democrat, nor am I saying he would be republican today Most likely he'd be neither. But at that day and age, he did not conserve the moral and ethical standards. He toppled them. Flipped them around and shook them. Certainly not in all areas, but many enough. Many enough to warrant calling Him, or at least many of His actions liberal.
Also you must be extremely unfamiliar with the Old Testament. There were many times God did deem it justifiable in terms of capital punishment. Even in the NT , ever read the book of Acts? Im sure you know about Ananias and Saphira who dropped dead in front of the apostle Peter because they lied to God. So if death is too great a punishment on people who commit crimes then you probably aren't too familiar with the bible and God's word.
OH, I don't think I am all that unfamiliar. I have written at length about this, a shorter piece is found in my blog here on CF. Feel free to read it.
I am well aware of Ananias and Saphira. I am also aware that no sword or human action caused their deaths. They were killed by the Lord. Not by man. The bible tells us if you break one commandment, you break them all. It tells us the man who looks covetously at a woman commits adultery. Which is punishable by death. So we are answerable to our thought lives as well as our actions. Jesus died in payment for our sins. Why should this include some sins that carry the death penalty, such as working on the sabbath, or having sex outside wedlock. But not others, like murder?
Please spare me. your "Uh lets just all get along" is tiring and ungenuine. The Word of God drives alot of people away and many can't stand to hear it. It pierces the heart and soul and it does divide. Jesus said it would divide.
Yes. And it will and it does. But he did not say "Divide man for all you're worth!" did he? What you're showing is not good, CIC. Do you know what left wing politics mean? Can you outline it to me, because I am not sure you're entirely familiar with it's roots and intentions.
Wonderful way of putting the blame on others and not the killer. Lotsa killers in court try to plea out of the "Uh, I didn't know what I was doing, i blacked out" excuse, when they know in their mind truely that they did it and are fully responsible.
And what if it's true?
I don't really want to go root out tons of research papers to back my argument, but here's a small article:
http://richarddawkins.net/article,9...srupt-the-brain-chemistry-of-violence,PhysOrg
Chemical imbalances in a person's brain can cause severe challenges. Such as violence, personality disruptions, extreme eotions and more. And IF a person is subject to any of these issues, through no fault of her own, should she then be punished? These are things which can be proven, CIC. You can find out whether a person has a chemical imbalance. Shouldn't we at the very least look for it before we condemn them?
Your telling me the woman that killed her baby is now at no fault of her own?. Maybe you should go tell that to the father of the child or the grandmother. 'Exterior factors', please, lol. I susppose it was all the microwaves fault because its "signals" were brainwashing the woman to kill her baby....I mean seriously, get real.
Mr, I am real. I don't have this stance because it's a feelgood-happy-hippie-flffybunny kind of thing. I have this opinion because it is highly relevant to the issue at hand. We know that chemical imbalances are present in the minds of most serial killers(that we have examined). We know that many chemical imbalances can be corrected with diets and/or medication. Such as depression or schizophrenia etc. We should not disregard these issues.
People kill because they are evil and have malicious intention. That woman had intent, it was no accident. She is a cold blooded killer in the highest degree, but most of all she is a danger to other children and puts other peoples lives at risk.
Really? Can you find any scientific data to back that up? Upon what do you base your hypothesis that all murderers are all evil?
Then you are at odds with GOd's word then because God has justified capital punishment in many parts of the bible. There are many times God deemed it justifiable for death for the greater good. There are people in this world that are simply destined for hell and are reprobates and there is nothing people can do because they are already too far into their own ways.
He has. But Jesus died so we wouldn't have to. Are you innocent of all the sins that hold the death penalty in the bible? I sincerely doubt it.
this is another off topic post of yours just like your "the electrode LSD waves made them do it" argument.
It's not off topic. It's on-topic. My question intended to ask more subtly is 'is it justifiable to kill murderers when we know studying them could help us prevent other people from killing in the future?'
We could have continued sending lepers and plague victims off to die away from eveyone else. We could have killed people infected with rabies. And it would have worked fine. But we have risen above that. We have healed them of their issues, or ensured a more dignified death where life cannot be saved. Why do we not try to do something with the root of the issue whenever the issue is no longer of the same exact nature?
