Can a person get too much of Christianity?

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I am on disability so I don't get much outside the door, and I don't have much to do, so I spend a lot of time thinking about Christianity, since this is really the only subject that fascinates me. I have been doing this for weeks or months now. When I wake up in the mornings, then the first thing that enters my mind is Christianity and when I go to be in the evenings then Christianity is the last thing I think about before I fall asleep. I am trying to follow the Holy Spirit in all things, but sometimes it feels like I get too much of all of it, I get a head-ache, I get tensed, and I try to focus on something else, but all of it feels wrong. Almost like I am going to drift off to heaven if I don't play a computer game, or read the news or something. I am diagnosed bipolar disorder, and OCD, and I have had periods all my life with thinking about specific things so much that I end up confused or even psychotic. I go so deep into things that people around me don't understand me when I try to explain what I mean. But I am thinking that Christianity should be different. It should just be healthy for me, right? But still I am a bit confused about what is healthy thoughts about God and what is part of my OCD, and I even get confused about if I am filled with the Holy Spirit or if I am psychotic and manic, cause I have felt like a spiritual being for years before I got Christian. Feeling like I am drifting inside myself is my usual feeling, I don't feel like I exist physically, and when I read something from the bible or something another Christian tells then I just get filled from top to toe, and thats a great feeling, the peace and happiness, but I am feeling like I should adjust my "spiritual antennas" or something, it feels like I am too close to the spirital world and too far away from the real one. It is the same way with other things. The emotions go to deep. I have no real contact with the physical world, I hardly ever have my feets on the ground. And I am not sure if anyone would understand this at all, but maybe it would help me if anyone could give me some hints if you see what is the confused part of me, and the Christian part of me. Do you think that it is possible to get too much Christianity, or is it the manic, obsessive, psycotic part of me that is getting too much for myself?:confused:
 

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Ha ha, good timing! I was having one of those days. For me the overload tends to hit when something goes wrong in Utopia. Yesterday brought some conflicts that I didn't resolve, and I was feeling like no matter how much I poured into the Kingdom, people would snap back with flack. (Meanwhile God is playing "Come to Jesus" in my brain... start leaning, stop striving.)

But I also get this overload when I am working on a long-term project by myself. Isolation is great for getting things done, but there's a point where suddenly nothing can get done because there is no physical need to respond, no human voice to bounce thoughts back and forth with, no challenges of human needs to attend to (like toddlers dropping things on the floor, or elderly people needing a jar opened).

And spirituality falls under that isolation umbrella, because it is often private prayer and meditation that leads us away from conversations or going out with friends. With OCD in mind, I would guess that knowing spiritual=good would imply that hyperspiritual=excellent.

I've been in churches where people live and breathe church life, and it doesn't always result in goodness. Most of the Bible was written showing people working, carrying out normal life, and God intervening when they needed a rescue.

Ex 23:12
Six days you are to do your work, but on the seventh day you shall cease from labor so that your ox and your donkey may rest, and the son of your female slave, as well as your stranger, may refresh themselves. (Work was commanded along with rest)

Mic 6:8
He has told you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?

Ps 104:14, 23
He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, Man goes forth to his work And to his labor until evening

Ps 90:10
As for the days of our life, they contain seventy years, Or if due to strength, eighty years, Yet their pride is but labor and sorrow; For soon it is gone and we fly away.

Pr 14:23
In all labor there is profit, But mere talk leads only to poverty. (Overspirituality could fall under this... waiting on God)

Eccl 2:24
There is nothing better for a man than to eat and drink and tell himself that his labor is good. This also I have seen that it is from the hand of God. (Mixed observations in Eccl)

I'm not trying to stress you out over the work issue, but to show that normal life is very scriptural -- we just don't let it fit in our mindset of what spiritual life is about.

if I don't play a computer game, or read the news or something.
When I get overloaded of Christian media, I turn on the History Channel.
 
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What I think is important as a christian is to remain BALANCED . Yes we are servants of our Lord and Saviour etc but we are also people that live in a world where other things exisit. It is good to watch movies,,go shopping and to talk about things that arent always about God and to go places that arent necessarily a church. I hav meet so many christians who are not balanced...God is their life which is fine..but they seem to have no personality, will or life outside of the church so they are almost socially dysfunctional when it comes to other communities and things that are outside the church. Just live for God and enjoy your life..get out ..do things...and always glorify God in the process.
 
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This is an interesting post because I kind of know what you mean. I've felt similar before. I spent years being isolated due to agoraphobia and over a year ago God saved me and then later completely healed me of this. In the time between when God saved me and when He healed me, I was still isolated and spent my time reading God's Word, praying, listening and watching Christian things.... that's basically all I did. Now that I'm healed, I have a desire to be out in the world (not OF the world obviously) but also have to get used to not spending ALL my time in His Word and prayer. That doesn't mean I don't spend all my day with God anymore, it's just more in my heart than in His Word. I do spend time day and night in God's Word and in prayer, I'm just not able to do it ALL day now. Because you are isolated, you are able to put God into everything and everyday more easily (I believe) and I don't see anything wrong with that.... I don't see the need for adjusting. We don't need the worldly things (games and such) and all these distractions. This doesn't mean God wants us completely isolated but what I mean is, there's nothing wrong with having God on our mind all the time. I have OCD as well and so sometimes I have wondered if my constant thoughts about God are only an obsession..... even if they were what an awesome God to be obsessed about! I'm not sure if any of this is relative to your situation but I thought I'd share. Also, I noticed in your post that you said you thought about 'Christianity' alot.... maybe I'm going off on this but Christianity is a religion.... God is our focus. That's probably what you meant anyway, but it struck me. I don't know all or pretend to know anything and I don't have the answers you're looking for but I do know that we can always pray. So, if you feel something isn't right, pray.... that's all I know to do. Also, just a side note.... I know for a proven fact that God can and does heal. He healed me of many thing, including mental disabilities and I believe will heal me of the other things I still struggle with as well! Keep praying for healing and I will pray for you as well! God bless!
 
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Being a Christian should make us more completely human, not less. We are not designed to function in just one plane, but to engage in life as fully and as healthily as we can. I think you could do with some more balance and variety in your life.

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Hi Bellicus, you've been around the traps a long time, but all the statistics on the RH page.

I am on disability so I don't get much outside the door,
Is your disability physical?

and I don't have much to do, so I spend a lot of time thinking about Christianity, since this is really the only subject that fascinates me.
I am confused, because you say that you a "non-denomonational" Christian. But you seem to speak of Christianity as an interest and not a life?

I have been doing this for weeks or months now. When I wake up in the mornings, then the first thing that enters my mind is Christianity and when I go to be in the evenings then Christianity is the last thing I think about before I fall asleep.
So, instead of thinking of Christianity, why not think of our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for your sins, and ask HIM to show you what His Will is and what HE required of you for the day?

I am trying to follow the Holy Spirit in all things, but sometimes it feels like I get too much of all of it, I get a head-ache, I get tensed, and I try to focus on something else, but all of it feels wrong.
Are you doing a Bible study?

Almost like I am going to drift off to heaven if I don't play a computer game, or read the news or something. I am diagnosed bipolar disorder, and OCD, and I have had periods all my life with thinking about specific things so much that I end up confused or even psychotic.
To walk a Christian life you need to get your thinking into your heart, your spiritual mind, and try to get out of thinking with your carnal mind. When His Word says to renew your mind, it means your heart, not you thinking mind, because that is Satan's territory.

I go so deep into things that people around me don't understand me when I try to explain what I mean.
Who are the people around you? Other Christians? Do you go to church, or involed in a church fellowship?

But I am thinking that Christianity should be different.
Remember you are following our Lord Jesus Christ!

It should just be healthy for me, right?
Yes, thinking of our Lord Jesus Christ is healty, but thinking like a Pharisee is very dangerous.

But still I am a bit confused about what is healthy thoughts about God and what is part of my OCD, and I even get confused about if I am filled with the Holy Spirit or if I am psychotic and manic, cause I have felt like a spiritual being for years before I got Christian.
You say that you felt like a "spiritual being", could you please explain what sort of a being you felt you were?

Feeling like I am drifting inside myself is my usual feeling, I don't feel like I exist physically,
Be very careful of those sorts of feelings, because that isn't what you need as a Christian. That is another sort of projection, and not of our Lord Jesus Christ.

and when I read something from the bible or something another Christian tells then I just get filled from top to toe, and thats a great feeling, the peace and happiness,
Well that's good you feel peace and happiness, but I am a bit concerned when you are by yourself that you may be being seduced or deceived.

but I am feeling like I should adjust my "spiritual antennas" or something, it feels like I am too close to the spirital world and too far away from the real one.
Well, I am sorry my dear brother, with your disability of bipolar and OCD, then your drugs you are taking could most probably be causing this feeling.

It is the same way with other things. The emotions go to deep.
Emotions is where the enemy plays around with Christians.

When we are born again we have the HIS SPIRIT in our spirit, but our soul is what needs to be healed, cleansed and filled with HIS SPIRIT as well.

When we are suffering with emotional problems, then our carnal mind comes into play and makes things these things that you are thinking, which allows Satan and his forces to come into our life, and plays around with our carnal mind through our emotions.

Many of our emotions is controlled by our hurts, offences, anger, bitterness, rejections, resentfulness, rejection, unforgiveness and many more, and while we are not thinking right, that is, we are using our carnal mind then all these things keep control of our "soul" through our "will", "pride" and "emotions", locking out our "heart", which is our "spiritual mind".

I have no real contact with the physical world, I hardly ever have my feets on the ground.
So, what are you infering here? Are you saying that you have no personal contat with other Christians?

And I am not sure if anyone would understand this at all, but maybe it would help me if anyone could give me some hints if you see what is the confused part of me, and the Christian part of me.
Mate, this sort of situation needs to be dissected by a reliable, sound, and GOD-anoited Christian counsellor, who can lead and tend to your problems.

Do you think that it is possible to get too much Christianity, or is it the manic, obsessive, psycotic part of me that is getting too much for myself?
You can never get enough of our Lord Jesus Christ, but you can get far too much of self-deception and self-seduction through being self-taught, and not having good foundation in His Word.

Are you in contact with other Christians?

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.
 
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Bellicus, my dear brother....I have to tell you, I think this could very well be an INFJ thing. I admit to sometimes being the same way and I do not have bipolar or OCD so please don't go thinking that you're psychotic. Us INFJs have been proven to be more spiritually "aware" or intune with the supernatural than most. (Please no one take that as an insult because that's not my intention.) This can be a good or a bad thing. (Everything in moderation my friend.) It just means that we're more sensitive and think more deeply about any given topic. The sentence you wrote that I can relate most deeply to was this one: "it feels like I am too close to the spirital world and too far away from the real one." I mention this because I don't want you feeling like you're alone in all of this.

You know, God uses all sorts of different personality types. He has a purpose for that deeper meaning & understanding that you seek. Our callings are all different and that's OK. So for that reason, I do not think it's possible to get "too much Christianity." Just remember that Christianity is nothing more than a label. True relationship with Christ is the thing to seek. Now - if you're not eating or are so consumed with these thoughts that you are neglecting your physical needs to stay alive, then I'd say there's a problem. Would you say that's the case here? Or no? I'm not sure if you'll agree with this but for me as an INFJ, these things come and go in phases. Some last longer than others. Perhaps God is teaching you something right now? Do you feel any sort of calling or purpose out of this? I find that when I go through those deep, very spiritual times in life, it is always because God is showing me something - He is preparing me for a "mission" of sorts. For instance, do you know what your God given spiritual gifts are? If not, perhaps that is something specific you could seek God about at this time while you're doing so much thinking. It is important to remain balanced, yes, but sometimes there is a reason behind all of the fascination and I feel in my spirit that this for you is one of those times. Ask God what it's all about. Ask Him what you're supposed to hear/feel right now. He'll answer you. Also ask Him to give you peace, to rest your mind when it's time and just enjoy your relationship with Him. I hope this makes sense to you & I hope that it has helped in some way. God bless you, brother. I'm praying for you. Just know that you're not crazy, ok?! :prayer:
 
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this could very well be an INFJ thing
So true.

When I wake up in the mornings, then the first thing that enters my mind is Christianity and when I go to be in the evenings then Christianity is the last thing I think about before I fall asleep.
It sounds like you are very devoted to God.

your drugs you are taking could most probably be causing this feeling.
Yes, make sure you read the labels. Some of these feelings are typical of the meds.
maybe it would help me if anyone could give me some hints
When I feel a rut coming on, I get up from what I'm doing. Shifting my mind to something as simple as coffee or mail will set new thoughts in motion.

This also works on a larger scale. If I am overwhelmed by something large I need to do, then taking on a new thing that's short and small will help me break it up. Even though it's more work to do, this solves the problem.

Create an odd goal for yourself. Learn a language, design a web page, start a support group, invent something. It will give your mind a new challenge to work on.
 
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Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging
by Joe Butt Profile: INFJ
Revision: 3.01
Date of Revision: 6 Mar 2005

Beneath the quiet exterior, INFJs hold deep convictions about the weightier matters of life. Those who are activists -- INFJs gravitate toward such a role -- are there for the cause, not for personal glory or political power.
INFJs are champions of the oppressed and downtrodden. They often are found in the wake of an emergency, rescuing those who are in acute distress. INFJs may fantasize about getting revenge on those who victimize the defenseless. The concept of 'poetic justice' is appealing to the INFJ.
"There's something rotten in Denmark." Accurately suspicious about others' motives, INFJs are not easily led. These are the people that you can rarely fool any of the time. Though affable and sympathetic to most, INFJs are selective about their friends. Such a friendship is a symbiotic bond that transcends mere words.
INFJs have a knack for fluency in language and facility in communication. In addition, nonverbal sensitivity enables the INFJ to know and be known by others intimately.
Writing, counseling, public service and even politics are areas where INFJs frequently find their niche.
Functional Analysis:
Introverted iNtuition

Introverted intuitives, INFJs enjoy a greater clarity of perception of inner, unconscious processes than all but their INTJ cousins. Just as SP types commune with the object and "live in the here and now" of the physical world, INFJs readily grasp the hidden psychological stimuli behind the more observable dynamics of behavior and affect. Their amazing ability to deduce the inner workings of the mind, will and emotions of others gives INFJs their reputation as prophets and seers. Unlike the confining, routinizing nature of introverted sensing, introverted intuition frees this type to act insightfully and spontaneously as unique solutions arise on an event by event basis.
Extraverted Feeling

Extraverted feeling, the auxiliary deciding function, expresses a range of emotion and opinions of, for and about people. INFJs, like many other FJ types, find themselves caught between the desire to express their wealth of feelings and moral conclusions about the actions and attitudes of others, and the awareness of the consequences of unbridled candor. Some vent the attending emotions in private, to trusted allies. Such confidants are chosen with care, for INFJs are well aware of the treachery that can reside in the hearts of mortals. This particular combination of introverted intuition and extraverted feeling provides INFJs with the raw material from which perceptive counselors are shaped.
Introverted Thinking

The INFJ's thinking is introverted, turned toward the subject. Perhaps it is when the INFJ's thinking function is operative that he is most aloof. A comrade might surmise that such detachment signals a disillusionment, that she has also been found lacking by the sardonic eye of this one who plumbs the depths of the human spirit. Experience suggests that such distancing is merely an indication that the seer is hard at work and focusing energy into this less efficient tertiary function.
Extraverted Sensing

INFJs are twice blessed with clarity of vision, both internal and external. Just as they possess inner vision which is drawn to the forms of the unconscious, they also have external sensing perception which readily takes hold of worldly objects. Sensing, however, is the weakest of the INFJ's arsenal and the most vulnerable. INFJs, like their fellow intuitives, may be so absorbed in intuitive perceiving that they become oblivious to physical reality. The INFJ under stress may fall prey to various forms of immediate gratification. Awareness of extraverted sensing is probably the source of the "SP wannabe" side of INFJs. Many yearn to live spontaneously; it's not uncommon for INFJ actors to take on an SP (often ESTP) role.
Famous INFJs:

Nathan, prophet of Israel
Aristophanes
Chaucer
Goethe
Robert Burns, Scottish poet
U.S. Presidents: Martin Van Buren James Earl "Jimmy" Carter Nathaniel Hawthorne
Fanny Crosby, (blind) hymnist
Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Fred McMurray (My Three Sons)
Shirley Temple Black, child actor, ambassador
Martin Luther King, Jr., civil rights leader, martyr
James Reston, newspaper reporter
Shirley McClain (Sweet Charity, ...)
Piers Anthony, author ("Xanth" series)
Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)
Tom Selleck
John Katz, critic, author
Paul Stookey (Peter, Paul and Mary)
U. S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Billy Crystal
Garry Trudeau (Doonesbury)
Nelson Mandela
Mel Gibson
Carrie Fisher
Nicole Kidman
Jerry Seinfeld
Jamie Foxx
Sela Ward
Mark Harmon
Gary Dourdan
Marg Helgaberger
Evangeline Lilly
Tori May
Introverted iNtuiting Feeling Judging

by Marina Margaret Heiss​
INFJs are distinguished by both their complexity of character and the unusual range and depth of their talents. Strongly humanitarian in outlook, INFJs tend to be idealists, and because of their J preference for closure and completion, they are generally "doers" as well as dreamers. This rare combination of vision and practicality often results in INFJs taking a disproportionate amount of responsibility in the various causes to which so many of them seem to be drawn.
INFJs are deeply concerned about their relations with individuals as well as the state of humanity at large. They are, in fact, sometimes mistaken for extroverts because they appear so outgoing and are so genuinely interested in people -- a product of the Feeling function they most readily show to the world. On the contrary, INFJs are true introverts, who can only be emotionally intimate and fulfilled with a chosen few from among their long-term friends, family, or obvious "soul mates." While instinctively courting the personal and organizational demands continually made upon them by others, at intervals INFJs will suddenly withdraw into themselves, sometimes shutting out even their intimates. This apparent paradox is a necessary escape valve for them, providing both time to rebuild their depleted resources and a filter to prevent the emotional overload to which they are so susceptible as inherent "givers." As a pattern of behavior, it is perhaps the most confusing aspect of the enigmatic INFJ character to outsiders, and hence the most often misunderstood -- particularly by those who have little experience with this rare type.
Due in part to the unique perspective produced by this alternation between detachment and involvement in the lives of the people around them, INFJs may well have the clearest insights of all the types into the motivations of others, for good and for evil. The most important contributing factor to this uncanny gift, however, are the empathic abilities often found in Fs, which seem to be especially heightened in the INFJ type (possibly by the dominance of the introverted N function).
This empathy can serve as a classic example of the two-edged nature of certain INFJ talents, as it can be strong enough to cause discomfort or pain in negative or stressful situations. More explicit inner conflicts are also not uncommon in INFJs; it is possible to speculate that the causes for some of these may lie in the specific combinations of preferences which define this complex type. For instance, there can sometimes be a "tug-of-war" between NF vision and idealism and the J practicality that urges compromise for the sake of achieving the highest priority goals. And the I and J combination, while perhaps enhancing self-awareness, may make it difficult for INFJs to articulate their deepest and most convoluted feelings.
Usually self-expression comes more easily to INFJs on paper, as they tend to have strong writing skills. Since in addition they often possess a strong personal charisma, INFJs are generally well-suited to the "inspirational" professions such as teaching (especially in higher education) and religious leadership. Psychology and counseling are other obvious choices, but overall, INFJs can be exceptionally difficult to pigeonhole by their career paths. Perhaps the best example of this occurs in the technical fields. Many INFJs perceive themselves at a disadvantage when dealing with the mystique and formality of "hard logic", and in academic terms this may cause a tendency to gravitate towards the liberal arts rather than the sciences. However, the significant minority of INFJs who do pursue studies and careers in the latter areas tend to be as successful as their T counterparts, as it is *iNtuition* -- the dominant function for the INFJ type -- which governs the ability to understand abstract theory and implement it creatively.
In their own way, INFJs are just as much "systems builders" as are INTJs; the difference lies in that most INFJ "systems" are founded on human beings and human values, rather than information and technology. Their systems may for these reasons be conceptually "blurrier" than analogous NT ones, harder to measure in strict numerical terms, and easier to take for granted -- yet it is these same underlying reasons which make the resulting contributions to society so vital and profound.
 
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Here's the description I was referring to which describes the more sensitive spiritual side:

INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.

INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it. Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions. This is something of a conflict between the inner and outer worlds, and may result in the INFJ not being as organized as other Judging types tend to be. Or we may see some signs of disarray in an otherwise orderly tendency, such as a consistently messy desk.

INFJs have uncanny insight into people and situations. They get "feelings" about things and intuitively understand them. As an extreme example, some INFJs report experiences of a psychic nature, such as getting strong feelings about there being a problem with a loved one, and discovering later that they were in a car accident. This is the sort of thing that other types may scorn and scoff at, and the INFJ themself does not really understand their intuition at a level which can be verbalized. Consequently, most INFJs are protective of their inner selves, sharing only what they choose to share when they choose to share it. They are deep, complex individuals, who are quite private and typically difficult to understand. INFJs hold back part of themselves, and can be secretive.

But the INFJ is as genuinely warm as they are complex. INFJs hold a special place in the heart of people who they are close to, who are able to see their special gifts and depth of caring. INFJs are concerned for people's feelings, and try to be gentle to avoid hurting anyone. They are very sensitive to conflict, and cannot tolerate it very well. Situations which are charged with conflict may drive the normally peaceful INFJ into a state of agitation or charged anger. They may tend to internalize conflict into their bodies, and experience health problems when under a lot of stress.

Because the INFJ has such strong intuitive capabilities, they trust their own instincts above all else. This may result in an INFJ stubborness and tendency to ignore other people's opinions. They believe that they're right. On the other hand, INFJ is a perfectionist who doubts that they are living up to their full potential. INFJs are rarely at complete peace with themselves - there's always something else they should be doing to improve themselves and the world around them. They believe in constant growth, and don't often take time to revel in their accomplishments. They have strong value systems, and need to live their lives in accordance with what they feel is right. In deference to the Feeling aspect of their personalities, INFJs are in some ways gentle and easy going. Conversely, they have very high expectations of themselves, and frequently of their families. They don't believe in compromising their ideals.

INFJ is a natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective. They make loving parents and usually have strong bonds with their offspring. They have high expectations of their children, and push them to be the best that they can be. This can sometimes manifest itself in the INFJ being hard-nosed and stubborn. But generally, children of an INFJ get devoted and sincere parental guidance, combined with deep caring.

In the workplace, the INFJ usually shows up in areas where they can be creative and somewhat independent. They have a natural affinity for art, and many excel in the sciences, where they make use of their intuition. INFJs can also be found in service-oriented professions. They are not good at dealing with minutia or very detailed tasks. The INFJ will either avoid such things, or else go to the other extreme and become enveloped in the details to the extent that they can no longer see the big picture. An INFJ who has gone the route of becoming meticulous about details may be highly critical of other individuals who are not.

The INFJ individual is gifted in ways that other types are not. Life is not necessarily easy for the INFJ, but they are capable of great depth of feeling and personal achievement.
 
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Thanks for the answers everyone :) I've been a bit skeptical about the personality-thing, since it reminds a bit about astrology (vague personality characteristics that anyone could find something familiar in). But it got roots in Jungian psychology, and I respect him as a scientist, and I see a lot of people on the forum trust it, so that makes the skepticism a bit smaller.

When I am seeing other people often it is uncomfortable, not because of the way I feel, but because of how others react on me. Like with my family I am mostly ignored or laughed at when I talk about how I feel and think. And when I talk to others they get uncomfortable, because I touch their emotions and speak to the person behind the mask, so I get pushed away. Instead of replying to what someone says, instead I reply to what I think they think. And I don't know how to not do this, and if I try using a mask myself then no one get convinced by it. I get ignored there too, because I don't know how to be extroverted like it is expected to be, to get along with others. So the result is a feeling about being very strange. It feels better to describe all this as my personality then a mental disorder. I get along with people very well if I can just get close to them, when there is friendly and honest people that talk from their hearts. I want people I meet to feel good and if I am not allowed that, then I can't handle it.

But about my issue in the first post: I figured out what caused it. It is not Christianity that makes me feel bad, but that I can't be free as a Christian and at the same time live with someone that think Christianity is stupid. This is what is putting pressure on me and making me feel bad about being a Christian. The place where I live is a resting place for the spirit of this world, and it is making me feel sick inside. I can only breathe when I am alone.
 
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Thanks for the answers everyone :) I've been a bit skeptical about the personality-thing, since it reminds a bit about astrology (vague personality characteristics that anyone could find something familiar in). But it got roots in Jungian psychology, and I respect him as a scientist, and I see a lot of people on the forum trust it, so that makes the skepticism a bit smaller.

I think the skepticism is normal. I felt that way too until I realized just how much this newly found understanding helped my life. I personally don't compare it to astrology in terms of it being vague. I don't find the type descriptions to be broad generalizations. For me, it has been 100% accurate. Have you not found that to be true for you?

When I am seeing other people often it is uncomfortable, not because of the way I feel, but because of how others react on me. Like with my family I am mostly ignored or laughed at when I talk about how I feel and think. And when I talk to others they get uncomfortable, because I touch their emotions and speak to the person behind the mask, so I get pushed away. Instead of replying to what someone says, instead I reply to what I think they think. And I don't know how to not do this, and if I try using a mask myself then no one get convinced by it. I get ignored there too, because I don't know how to be extroverted like it is expected to be, to get along with others. So the result is a feeling about being very strange. It feels better to describe all this as my personality then a mental disorder. I get along with people very well if I can just get close to them, when there is friendly and honest people that talk from their hearts. I want people I meet to feel good and if I am not allowed that, then I can't handle it.

Honest to goodness, I could have written those above sentiments myself. Believe me, it's not just you - you've truly expressed the heart and dilemma of an INFJ. Just remember this: You don't have to conform to any kind of "standard" to be accepted. If people don't accept you for who you are, then they probably weren't worth getting to know. You are different and that's OK! There are others (including me) who feel the exact same way you do and there's nothing wrong about it. Be you because no one can replace you in this society. We're all unique. You pretending to be someone that you're not helps no one and it especially doesn't do any good for those around you.

But about my issue in the first post: I figured out what caused it. It is not Christianity that makes me feel bad, but that I can't be free as a Christian and at the same time live with someone that think Christianity is stupid. This is what is putting pressure on me and making me feel bad about being a Christian. The place where I live is a resting place for the spirit of this world, and it is making me feel sick inside. I can only breathe when I am alone.

I can understand that. Is it possible to find a new place to call home? If not, try breaking away when you're feeling overwhelmed so that you don't come to a point where you're obsessing over your thoughts. I know it's easier said than done but don't let their feelings/thoughts about Christianity keep you from being free in yours. Stay true to your beliefs and that's all that matters. Them not agreeing with you does not (or should not) threaten your belief in God whatsoever. Don't let their pressure get to you. Whether they admit to it or not, your beliefs do influence them and that's a good thing. Maybe you're exactly where you were meant to be as purposed by God for this moment in time? Just a thought. :) Lean on God - He loves you! You're in my prayers. :prayer:
 
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Thank you Elijah2 for posting that. I should have probably done the same so that my post made a little more sense. :)

No worries mate, because I had no idea, and I thought maybe others where in the same boat as I am. A very interesting subject, and thanks for bringing it to my attention.:)

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.
 
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I can understand that. Is it possible to find a new place to call home? If not, try breaking away when you're feeling overwhelmed so that you don't come to a point where you're obsessing over your thoughts. I know it's easier said than done but don't let their feelings/thoughts about Christianity keep you from being free in yours. Stay true to your beliefs and that's all that matters. Them not agreeing with you does not (or should not) threaten your belief in God whatsoever. Don't let their pressure get to you.
I am living with my girlfriend, so I can't just move out because I am Christian. And it is not easy to be free about my faith, cause it affects the relationship in a bad way I guess. We don't have sex anymore, cause I wanted to see what the relationship was without it, and it is not very good really, but at the same time I know that probably most couples that live together would have a bad relationship without sex, and I can't do anything about it, cause I am not allowed to live like a married man when I am not, and I can't even say it like it is, cause I know she will get offended by it. She only cares about the latest hit-music, the popular TV-shows and the latest movies, and I just feel weird for wanting to live as a Christian. I know exactly how weird it feels for people that are not Christians, so I respect that, but at the same time it is really frustrating, because I know it is the truth.

Whether they admit to it or not, your beliefs do influence them and that's a good thing. Maybe you're exactly where you were meant to be as purposed by God for this moment in time? Just a thought. :) Lean on God - He loves you! You're in my prayers. :prayer:

Just wish I could know how to influence with my faith. My life is not a very good testimony I guess, since I am mentally ill and can hardly move out the door, so arguments about that Christianity is something fantastic won't really go anywhere I guess. I try to ask her every Sunday if she wants to come to church. She always says no and is very sharp about it, but then she tells some other silly excuse that make me think that she wants to go herself, but are afraid of it.

Thanks for your prayers :)
 
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You sound like a very nice considerate person. I would kind of think part of your problem really comes down to the flip side of that.

You are considerate of your girlfriend and don't want to offend her or cause conflict. But the problem is, that the gospel of Jesus Christ is indeed a very foolish thing to the world.

Often the most offended people are those whom the Holy Spirit is most working on, they are starting to be convicted of their sins, starting to be prepared to receive salvation. Yet because realizing just how sinful one is and just what would be a just reward for that sinfulness is a very uncomfortable thing, terrifying actually, they attempt to keep the truth away, even lashing out at anyone bringing it. They try to avoid the truth by attacking.

Realize if she lashes out she really isn't lashing out at you, it's a fight she is having with God.

The only real way for you to resolve the conflict you have with your girlfriend over this is to quite hiding it and bring it out. She will hopefully be converted. She will become as foolish to the world as you are. But she may run away. We don't really know.

And remember in this, she will almost certainly throw at you at some time, how you are. And to this of course the reply is it isn't about you, you are the proof of nothing. She absolutely must not put her faith in you. It's about Jesus, Christ alone, he and only he is the proof, the standard by which to judge.

I will pray for her to receive the gospel.

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She only cares about the latest hit-music, the popular TV-shows and the latest movies, and I just feel weird for wanting to live as a Christian.
Eventually there will be real things that shake up her life -- everyone has relatives who die, jobs that fizzle out, and we have to face ourselves.

What attracted you to her in the first place might have been dynamics, but you are seeing more about her now that you get to know her. And that is why people suggest that courtships be long and marriages get counseling first. Some people love to know they are connected, but don't necessarily love being together. Or they are attracted by appearances, and don't know the heart yet.

Just remember that anything you neglect to tell her now, will give her a false impression of you that will last for years. When you feel misunderstood by her, the reason will be that you hadn't fully divulged information.

She knows you go to church, so she will assume you're a Christian. But the conflicts in your heart, she might think that they come from a rule system that you're trying to follow, instead of what you really want for yourself.​
 
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