http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_south_ossetia
Lord have mercy. Let us pray that they can come to a cease fire quickly.
Lord have mercy. Let us pray that they can come to a cease fire quickly.
Prayers for Russia and Georgia
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Yes, indeed we needed a thread like this.
For the peace of the whole world and for the stability of the holy churches of God let us pray to the Lord.
I read somewhere that patriarchs Alexy & Ilia have already urged for a termination of hostilities.
For the peace of the whole world and for the stability of the holy churches of God let us pray to the Lord.
I read somewhere that patriarchs Alexy & Ilia have already urged for a termination of hostilities.
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I loved on the news last night (ABC). The headlines in order:
Olympics begin
Edwards affair
at least hundreds dead in Otessia after Georgia launches suprise attack, what Russia views as all out war.
I can see why the Olympics came first just becuase it's what is on everyone's mind in the world. i'm not saying it should have been first, but it was impossible that it wouldn't have been. But the Edwards affair before the world. It's hard to tell where tabloids end and real news begins.
Lord have mercy on these people!
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Olympics begin
Edwards affair
at least hundreds dead in Otessia after Georgia launches suprise attack, what Russia views as all out war.
I can see why the Olympics came first just becuase it's what is on everyone's mind in the world. i'm not saying it should have been first, but it was impossible that it wouldn't have been. But the Edwards affair before the world. It's hard to tell where tabloids end and real news begins.
Lord have mercy on these people!
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this situation between Georgia and Russia over Ossetia can only be described as a total
MESS
Lord have mercy on all those involved
MESS
Lord have mercy on all those involved
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South Ossetians flee cellars for safety in Russia
Thomson Reuters 2008
Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:20am EDT
By Dmitry Solovyov
JAVA, Georgia, Aug 11 (Reuters) - A safe haven in Russia was almost within sight for refugees from South Ossetia's besieged capital on Monday as they waited in parched streets for buses to ferry them over the border.
Java, between South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali and the border with Russian North Ossetia, has become a staging area for people fleeing cellars where they hid from Georgian shelling that Moscow says has nearly destroyed their city.
Some wearing only dressing gowns and sneakers, they fled Tskhinvali and surrounding villages carrying plastic bags of clothes and documents, and some scant food supplies.
Some had walked down through the mountains and slept in forests to get to Java, where buses collected them for the journey to the North Ossetian capital Vladikavkaz. Russian artillery fired from Java's outskirts as columns of tanks, armoured vehicles, howitzers and rocket launchers flowed in. South Ossetian men wielding Kalashnikov assault rifles and wearing flip-flops loitered in the shade.
"There is so much machinery flowing in from both sides. I am afraid the fighting will be so fierce there won't be a house left standing," said Zaira Slanova, aged 70, a retired engineer from Tskhinvali.
She was waiting for her sister, aged 77, to join her in Java for the short ride to Vladikavkaz. Her children, who live in Moscow, had arranged transport over the border, she said.
Slanova said she had spent four days hiding in a cellar as Georgian troops shelled Tskhinvali. Two days into the siege, an elderly man was killed by a mortar on the street outside.
"We all suffered two days from the terrible stench of putrefaction as he was decomposing in the scorching heat," Slanova said. "So we just buried him on the spot where he died."
"PUTIN DEFENDS US"
South Ossetia, which fought to break free from Georgian rule in 1991-92, maintains close ties with its Russian North Ossetia. Most of South Ossetia's 70,000 people hold Russian citizenship, entitling them to Russian state benefits.
South Ossetia's affinity with Russia has been a thorn in the side of Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who took power in a 2006 grassroots revolution. His aspirations to join NATO and promises to ensure territorial integrity have won support from Western governments.
"If Saakashvili stood in front of me, I would wish him eternal hell after what we have been through," an elderly woman said, weeping in a Tskhinvali street as she recounted how she hid from Georgian bombardment in a cellar with her two terrified grandchildren.
"Why is he trying to kill Ossetians? He should see with his own eyes what he has done with us. He would be ripped to bits on the streets if he ever came here."
As Georgian troops shelled the city, she said, her grandson screamed for "Uncle Putin" to save him. "Thank God the Russians have come," she said. "It is getting better."
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Monday criticised the West, saying it had mistaken the aggressors for victims in the conflict over South Ossetia.
"Putin is our golden leader. He defends us and gives us food," said 73-year-old Nadezhda Pliyeva, waiting in Java for a bus to Vladikavkaz after fleeing the village of Prinevi, 12 km from Tskhinvali.
Tengiz Khugayev, aged 45, a member of the South Ossetian rebel contingent dressed in camouflage uniform, was shuttling refugees between Java and the North Ossetian capital.
"One should understand that if we are cut off from Russia, we will have no future," Khugayev said.
"If Russia withdraws its troops from here, we won't be able to do anything. Look, the Georgians laid waste to Tskhinvali in just one day. We will not survive without Russia." (Additional reporting by Denis Sinyakov in Tskhinvali; Writing by Melissa Akin; Editing by Catherine Evans)
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Don't you think, please, that I ever thought, that there is any good in this or any other war. War is terrible. But I think, that Georgian leaders have made a terrible mistake, which turned to bloodshed. Believe me, Russians have no need for this war. But if before georgian intrusion there was a tiny chance, that Ossetians will ever want to live together with Georgians in the same state, today I doubt if there is a tiniest one.
Thomson Reuters 2008
Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:20am EDT
By Dmitry Solovyov
JAVA, Georgia, Aug 11 (Reuters) - A safe haven in Russia was almost within sight for refugees from South Ossetia's besieged capital on Monday as they waited in parched streets for buses to ferry them over the border.
Java, between South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali and the border with Russian North Ossetia, has become a staging area for people fleeing cellars where they hid from Georgian shelling that Moscow says has nearly destroyed their city.
Some wearing only dressing gowns and sneakers, they fled Tskhinvali and surrounding villages carrying plastic bags of clothes and documents, and some scant food supplies.
Some had walked down through the mountains and slept in forests to get to Java, where buses collected them for the journey to the North Ossetian capital Vladikavkaz. Russian artillery fired from Java's outskirts as columns of tanks, armoured vehicles, howitzers and rocket launchers flowed in. South Ossetian men wielding Kalashnikov assault rifles and wearing flip-flops loitered in the shade.
"There is so much machinery flowing in from both sides. I am afraid the fighting will be so fierce there won't be a house left standing," said Zaira Slanova, aged 70, a retired engineer from Tskhinvali.
She was waiting for her sister, aged 77, to join her in Java for the short ride to Vladikavkaz. Her children, who live in Moscow, had arranged transport over the border, she said.
Slanova said she had spent four days hiding in a cellar as Georgian troops shelled Tskhinvali. Two days into the siege, an elderly man was killed by a mortar on the street outside.
"We all suffered two days from the terrible stench of putrefaction as he was decomposing in the scorching heat," Slanova said. "So we just buried him on the spot where he died."
"PUTIN DEFENDS US"
South Ossetia, which fought to break free from Georgian rule in 1991-92, maintains close ties with its Russian North Ossetia. Most of South Ossetia's 70,000 people hold Russian citizenship, entitling them to Russian state benefits.
South Ossetia's affinity with Russia has been a thorn in the side of Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who took power in a 2006 grassroots revolution. His aspirations to join NATO and promises to ensure territorial integrity have won support from Western governments.
"If Saakashvili stood in front of me, I would wish him eternal hell after what we have been through," an elderly woman said, weeping in a Tskhinvali street as she recounted how she hid from Georgian bombardment in a cellar with her two terrified grandchildren.
"Why is he trying to kill Ossetians? He should see with his own eyes what he has done with us. He would be ripped to bits on the streets if he ever came here."
As Georgian troops shelled the city, she said, her grandson screamed for "Uncle Putin" to save him. "Thank God the Russians have come," she said. "It is getting better."
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Monday criticised the West, saying it had mistaken the aggressors for victims in the conflict over South Ossetia.
"Putin is our golden leader. He defends us and gives us food," said 73-year-old Nadezhda Pliyeva, waiting in Java for a bus to Vladikavkaz after fleeing the village of Prinevi, 12 km from Tskhinvali.
Tengiz Khugayev, aged 45, a member of the South Ossetian rebel contingent dressed in camouflage uniform, was shuttling refugees between Java and the North Ossetian capital.
"One should understand that if we are cut off from Russia, we will have no future," Khugayev said.
"If Russia withdraws its troops from here, we won't be able to do anything. Look, the Georgians laid waste to Tskhinvali in just one day. We will not survive without Russia." (Additional reporting by Denis Sinyakov in Tskhinvali; Writing by Melissa Akin; Editing by Catherine Evans)
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Don't you think, please, that I ever thought, that there is any good in this or any other war. War is terrible. But I think, that Georgian leaders have made a terrible mistake, which turned to bloodshed. Believe me, Russians have no need for this war. But if before georgian intrusion there was a tiny chance, that Ossetians will ever want to live together with Georgians in the same state, today I doubt if there is a tiniest one.
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Continued prayers for an end to this horrible tragedy. Prayers for the IOCC, other Orthodox & all relief agencies. See IOCC link http://www.iocc.org/news/8-11-08georgia.aspx Lord have mercy.
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from www.oca.org:
Metropolitan Herman issues statement on conflict in South Ossetia
Posted 08/12
SYOSSET, NY [OCA Communications] -- On August 11, 2008, His Beatitude Metropolitan Herman issued the following statement concerning the recent military conflict between Russia and Georgia that broke out in the disputed Caucasus region of South Ossetia on August 8.
"The hierarchs, clergy, and laity of the Orthodox Church in America are observing the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia with heavy hearts. In the course of many years we have regarded our close relations with the Orthodox Churches of Russia and Georgia as precious signs of communion and solidarity. It is thus deeply painful to see the war between Georgia and Russia, and the resulting suffering for many in the war zones in South Ossetia and Georgia.
"We pray that the political leaders, as they make their decisions, may care above all for the life and safety and well-being of their peoples.
"We pray that the cessation of hostilities through a cease-fire will create the conditions for a peaceful settlement.
"We pray that all political leaders and political institutions may exhibit realism and sanity as they dedicate their efforts to a peaceful resolution of a conflict which is causing suffering to many people and which has dangerous implications for the relations among states in the Caucasus, in Eastern Europe, and in the whole world.
"We thank Almighty God for the witness for peaceful relations between Russian and Georgia consistently given by the Patriarch of Moscow and the Patriarch of Georgia. May this witness be an effective avenue for the overcoming of violence and all threats to peace in the Caucasus region."
His Beatitude has also sent letters of support to His Holiness, Patriarch Aleksy of Russia and His Holiness and Beatitude, Catholicos-Patriarch Ilia of Georgia. "The violent conflict between Russia and Georgia, resulting in much suffering and bloodshed, is observed by Orthodox Christians in America with deep concern and with heavy hearts," Metropolitan Herman wrote. "I extend to you my profound sympathy as you face the tragic conflict. Your spiritual leadership is, of course, a powerful witness in the Russian and Georgian societies. May God bless your continuing efforts to promote realism, sanity, and hope."
Amin! Amin! Amin!
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Metropolitan Herman issues statement on conflict in South Ossetia
Posted 08/12
SYOSSET, NY [OCA Communications] -- On August 11, 2008, His Beatitude Metropolitan Herman issued the following statement concerning the recent military conflict between Russia and Georgia that broke out in the disputed Caucasus region of South Ossetia on August 8.
"The hierarchs, clergy, and laity of the Orthodox Church in America are observing the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia with heavy hearts. In the course of many years we have regarded our close relations with the Orthodox Churches of Russia and Georgia as precious signs of communion and solidarity. It is thus deeply painful to see the war between Georgia and Russia, and the resulting suffering for many in the war zones in South Ossetia and Georgia.
"We pray that the political leaders, as they make their decisions, may care above all for the life and safety and well-being of their peoples.
"We pray that the cessation of hostilities through a cease-fire will create the conditions for a peaceful settlement.
"We pray that all political leaders and political institutions may exhibit realism and sanity as they dedicate their efforts to a peaceful resolution of a conflict which is causing suffering to many people and which has dangerous implications for the relations among states in the Caucasus, in Eastern Europe, and in the whole world.
"We thank Almighty God for the witness for peaceful relations between Russian and Georgia consistently given by the Patriarch of Moscow and the Patriarch of Georgia. May this witness be an effective avenue for the overcoming of violence and all threats to peace in the Caucasus region."
His Beatitude has also sent letters of support to His Holiness, Patriarch Aleksy of Russia and His Holiness and Beatitude, Catholicos-Patriarch Ilia of Georgia. "The violent conflict between Russia and Georgia, resulting in much suffering and bloodshed, is observed by Orthodox Christians in America with deep concern and with heavy hearts," Metropolitan Herman wrote. "I extend to you my profound sympathy as you face the tragic conflict. Your spiritual leadership is, of course, a powerful witness in the Russian and Georgian societies. May God bless your continuing efforts to promote realism, sanity, and hope."
Amin! Amin! Amin!
Mary
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