12 Really Good Reasons Why No American Should Ever Vote For Barack Obama

#1) Barack Obama has been a rabid advocate of abortion throughout his political career.

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You know what? I may be pro-life, but I'm getting sick of hearing other pro-lifers automatically attacking someone who may be for having the option of abortion in homes. I could almost understand, with him growing up where he came from, that he would be pro-choice. No one talks about the emotional impacts that adoption usually brings. Let's also not forget that many of these "pro-life"' people could care less about the baby anyway once it's out of the mother's womb. They're on their own. No health care, many will start in the working class, and if they're sensitive, they're gonna be bullied around to harsh degrees, and who's stalling a bullying bill in congress right now? Conservatives. The bullying has become so out of control, that they have to make a law against it because people are killing themselves over such things. You call THEM pro-life now?

Don't talk to me about morals. Pro-life conservatives have proven they have no more morals than Obama. At least Obama is honest about his position.

#2) Obama also exhibits his extreme duplicity on the issue of gay marriage. He claims to be against it, but Obama says that he is FOR "civil unions" which grant all the same rights and privileges as an actual marriage. Well, if you get all the same benefits from a "civil union", then how is that any different at all from a real marriage? The truth is that it isn't, and the truth is that Obama is a tireless promoter of the homosexual agenda.

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Wasn't Bush for civil unions as well?

#5) Obama voted for sex education for children in KINDERGARTEN through the 5th grade.

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See #1. Studies have shown that since comprehensive sex education for teens have been around, kids have been having less sex. (Jay Leno joke that followed was that they're having so little sex, the teachers have to have sex with themselves now. *rimshot*)

Yeah... lame. Weird what I watch at night when I'm half-asleep.

#6) Jeremiah Wright, who was Obama's pastor and mentor for nearly 20 years, and who married Obama and his wife, and who gave Obama the name for his book, is an anti-American lunatic who hates the United States:

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I equate Rev. Wright to Rev. Hagee or Rev. Parsley. I don't see too much of a difference between them. One side hates whites to a ridiculous extent and anything that's not them, the other side hates... well... anything that's not them.

#7) "Christian" Barack Obama actually carries a small idol of a Hindu god around with him for "good luck":

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You're kidding me, right? Do I even HAVE to explain this?

#10) Barack Obama has declared to America: "We Are No Longer A Christian Nation"

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In some ways, I prefer it that way. I still am no fan of Christians who like to work on some social hierarchy system keeping themselves on top and suppressing everyone below them.

The rest are pretty much miniscule. There is no more real reason to vote for Obama than there is to vote for McCain. You can make up excuses all day, but the truth is, I'll just go with the person I think fits my views best. Right now, it's probably either McCain or Barr, but for crying out loud, I'm starting to get sick of the slack Obama gets. These little conservative "America-savers" are like a pack of wolves.

Makes me almost wanna vote for him out of sympathy.

much more likely. if cherry picking portions of bills that were voted for or against for reasons that are not related to the issues that the "12 points" suggest is a tactic that a far right fringe element chooses to imlement, it makes me feel i am definitely on the right track voting for obama.
would you be more or less inclined to feel positively toward a muslim leader that accepted a gift peacefully given from a Christian group of a crucifix that had been blessed by a bishop from the church, or if he rejected it wholeheartedly and said he had no interest in accepting this token of friendship? how is age-appropriate discussion of human sexuality a reason to reject his candidacy?
this is just a group that wants the world to conform to their vision of Christianity. they are losing this battle, gradually and day by day. the fred phelps contingent will have very little to say about who our next president will be, and that is comforting. it is informative to know that this cancer exists in our political and religious midst. Christ was constantly warning us about the hypocrisy of the reigning religious class leaders. He chose love. remember the Good Samaritan? he was from the group most hated by the religious zealots of Jesus day. Jesus chose him to be the hero of one of the most instructive parables of His ministry. perhaps today it is the hindu.

that list? far from what it purports to be, its actually simply one more REALLY GOOD reason why every American SHOULD vote for Barack Obama-

if smears, lies, and distortions are the only thing that people can come up with, this guy must be pretty stinkin good. and the people coming up with and propagating the smears, lies, and distortions are exactly the type of people patriotic Americans should want to see scared and nervous about losing their power and being exposed for what they are

well here's another one...

It appears O Hussein actually gave copies of his wall prayer to the media.

More publicity for him to show the world what a great world leader he will be...

In response, a Ma'ariv spokesman said that "Barack Obama's note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel, a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. In any case, since Obama is not a Jew, publishing the note does not constitute an infringement on his right to privacy."
Obama's campaign has neither confirmed nor denied whether the prayer published by Ma'ariv was in fact written by Obama.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


He's a puppet of Soros, nothing more, nothing less...

Nothing there to see folks except an empty suit...keep moving...

Revelation1217 said:

12 Really Good Reasons Why No American Should Ever Vote For Barack Obama

Have you seen this list? It is the hardest hitting and most comprehensive case against Obama that anyone has put together.

These are some of the items the list covers:

#5) Obama voted for sex education for children in KINDERGARTEN through the 5th grade.

#8) "Christian" Barack Obama is going to accept a two foot tall gold plated idol of the Hindu god Hanuman from a group of prominent Hindus in India after it has been "sanctified" by Hindu priests.

#11) Barack Obama is openly breaking federal law regarding the Great Seal of the United States.

Go over and read the list, and then come back here and tell us if the things on the list would make you more likely or less likely to vote for Obama:

http://themoralcollapseofamerica.blogspot.com/2008/07/10-really-good-reasons-why-no-american.html

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You want me to read a list on a site that has this at the top of the page:

The Moral Collapse Of America
Documenting The Increasing Wickedness That Threatens To Destroy America

Orthocat said:

well here's another one...

It appears O Hussein actually gave copies of his wall prayer to the media.

More publicity for him to show the world what a great world leader he will be...

In response, a Ma'ariv spokesman said that "Barack Obama's note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel, a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. In any case, since Obama is not a Jew, publishing the note does not constitute an infringement on his right to privacy."
Obama's campaign has neither confirmed nor denied whether the prayer published by Ma'ariv was in fact written by Obama.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull


He's a puppet of Soros, nothing more, nothing less...

Nothing there to see folks except an empty suit...keep moving...

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gotta love it as it continues... the only thing that they have on the guy is lies... it has been confirmed both by the paper that published the prayer (instead of the tabloid Jerusalem Post) and the Obama campaign that he did NOT authorize anyone to publish the prayer, that it was not shown to anyone, and that someone at the wall took it out and gave it to the paper.

it seems that some people will ignore all facts as long as it allows them to level another despicable attack against a proud American (and their future President and Commander in Chief of our armed forces)

Orthocat said:

well here's another one...

It appears O Hussein actually gave copies of his wall prayer to the media.

More publicity for him to show the world what a great world leader he will be...

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That's not what the link you posted indicates at all. In fact, the paper that published this is now subject to a criminal investigation for taking the paper out of the cracks of the Western Wall and publishing it:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Attorney Shahar Alon petitioned Attorney-General Menahem Mazuz on Sunday to order police to open a criminal investigation against the editor of Ma'ariv and other correspondents from the newspaper following its publication of the note US presidential candidate Barack Obama placed between the stones of the Western Wall early Thursday morning, Israeli media reported.

"With its actions, in my opinion, the newspaper broke several clauses of the 1967 Preservation of Holy Sites Law and violated rights based on Basic Law - Respect for Man and his Freedom," wrote Alon.

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And Obama was emphatic that they had not authorized it:

Obama's campaign has neither confirmed nor denied whether the prayer published by Ma'ariv was in fact written by Obama. A campaign spokesman, however, made clear that the campaign hadn't approved the publication of any kind of prayer note.

"Prayer notes at the Wall should remain private," a campaign aide said.

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If the Obama campaign wanted it published, they wouldn't have made them fish the prayer out of the Western Wall, they could have leaked it to them directly.

Jonathan

Revelation1217 said:

#5) Obama voted for sex education for children in KINDERGARTEN through the 5th grade.

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A little context is helpful on this one:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/198169.aspx

"Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told Planned Parenthood Tuesday that sex education for kindergarteners, as long as it is 'age-appropriate,' is 'the right thing to do.' 'But it's the right thing to do,' Obama continued, 'to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools.'"
Here's what Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki is telling The Brody File this morning:
"Barack Obama supports sensible, community-driven education for children because, among other things, he believes it could help protect them from pedophiles. A child's knowledge of the difference between appropriate and inappropriate touching is crucial to keeping them safe from predators."
So, at this point at least, what Obama is referring to is teaching five year olds about inappropriate touching. The Obama campaign also tells The Brody File that parents would be able to opt out. As for further details, the touching aspect seems to be the main idea here. Obama doesn't want to hand out condoms to five year olds. He doesn't want cucumber demonstrations as part of show and tell.

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So do you think it's wrong to tell 5 year olds about inappropriate touching?

Jonathan

they'll think that anything is wrong if they think it'll help make Obama look bad

#1) Barack Obama has been a rabid advocate of abortion throughout his political career. Apparently he believes that the vicious murder of 40 million babies since Roe v. Wade is a wonderful thing.

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This sounds like hyperbole to me. A "rabid advocate"? Please. Nobody's a "rabid advocate" of abortion.

#2) Obama also exhibits his extreme duplicity on the issue of gay marriage. He claims to be against it, but Obama says that he is FOR "civil unions" which grant all the same rights and privileges as an actual marriage. Well, if you get all the same benefits from a "civil union", then how is that any different at all from a real marriage? The truth is that it isn't, and the truth is that Obama is a tireless promoter of the homosexual agenda.

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The use of the nebulous phrase "homosexual agenda" (used very often but never explicitly defined or proved to exist) shows that this article isn't about providing real reasons to not vote for Obama. It's just the same old, same old smears repackaged.

#3) In 1999, Obama voted against a bill barring early release for criminal sex offenders.

#4) Obama voted against filtering inappropriate contentography on school and library computers.

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What's the real story? Somehow I feel that that's only half the story.

#6) Jeremiah Wright, who was Obama's pastor and mentor for nearly 20 years, and who married Obama and his wife, and who gave Obama the name for his book, is an anti-American lunatic who hates the United States:

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Are you serial? "Don't vote for this man because another man is (supposedly) an 'anti-american lunatic'"? That's ridiculous!

#7) "Christian" Barack Obama actually carries a small idol of a Hindu god around with him for "good luck":

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Are you seriously calling this a good reason not to vote for someone? Oh horrors - he carries a small statuette in his pocket! Alert the moral majority!

#8) "Christian" Barack Obama is going to accept a two foot tall gold plated idol of the Hindu god Hanuman from a group of prominent Hindus in India after it has been "sanctified" by Hindu priests:

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So?

#9) Barack Obama's cousin, Raila Odinga, is a communist Muslim who planned to implement Sharia Law in Kenya if he had won the election in Kenya. When Raila Odinga lost the election, his Islamic supporters went on a murderous rampage in Kenya that made world headlines:

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More guilt by association - the same claptrap we've had to endure on this board countless times before from an article that purports to be providing good reasons not to vote for someone. Not only that, but it's more of the "don't vote for this man because of another person's beliefs".

#10) Barack Obama has declared to America: "We Are No Longer A Christian Nation"

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And he's right. Your point?

#11) Barack Obama is openly breaking federal law regarding the Great Seal of the United States:

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How so? And does this really matter enough to not vote for him? Who really cares about this other than desperates looking to score cheap political points?

#12) "Anti-war" Obama actually wants to send 10,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan:

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To help us find Osama - something that Dubya has failed to do in seven years. What does the author of this blog care anyway? Somehow I doubt that he would be anti-war himself.
Ringo

You're kidding me, right? Do I even HAVE to explain this?

Actually, you know if you read the US population survey's like by Barna, we are still nominally christians, we say we'd like vote for Jesus, but otherwise many American haven't truly surrendered to Christ and confessed him as their personal Savior and Lord....I'm sure that would be Obama's comeback if he was challenged about that statement.

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We're a nation of Christians. That doesn't mean we're a "Christian nation".
Ringo

"We Are No Longer A Christian Nation" -Ringo

okay, I get it, we are now embarassed enough about our religion to make the distinction...I say, "bleh!"

I'm not embarrassed about anything. Whether I'm embarrassed or not has nothing to do with whether or not we're a Christian nation.

We aren't. Our government is secular. It hasn't the power to establish religion or to show preference to any religion or religious beliefs. Any religious beliefs that exist in this country belong to the citizenry - not the government.
Ringo

Doesn't the First Amendment declare Freedom of Religion in this country? Wouldn't that be highly contradictory to the statement America is a Christian Nation?

The United States is not, nor has it ever been, a "Christian Nation". Just because it's founders were any sort of religion doesn't magically made it a theocracy. The very idea is ludicrous and it was coined by Christians very similar to Pharisees who would rather force people into their version of morality and propel themselves into fame and wealth. It was never the intentions of the founding fathers to make this a Christian nation. If it was, they would've said it. And they definitely wouldn't have contradicted it by making an Amendment written in one of the most important documents that build the foundation of this country, saying the EXACT OPPOSITE.

And ironically enough, if we were ever a Christian nation, I find it's the CHRISTIANS who are tearing that down. Now the "secularization". It's the Christians who've begun to neglect what they're called to do and instead tell God "We know you're Almight and everything but we can do the judgment for ourselves. You're still the Highest. We just think we can do a better job than you". And then they slaughter, persecute and point fingers. But hey, it's all in the name of the Lord so it's okay. All the while calling "BIGOTRY" at anyone who so much as suggests that Christians don't own or run this country. This is a nation for the people and by the people and people means ALL people regardless of their race, size, mental or physical capacity, age, OR RELIGION.

Besides, what does it matter. Why should America be a Christian nation? Why should we have it easy in a country where people are practically forced into Christian morality by laws while our brothers and sisters risk their lives to gently share the word all the way across the world. See, here in America we have it easy and yet we STILL complain and STILL look for the easy way out. Members of my church just returned from a trip to what is now our sister church in Cambodia. And my pastor noted, the people there are very happy. The Christians there are very happy. Because they see everything. They know every second that they are in REAL danger, and yet they still smile genuinely. And those people who REALLY persecute THEM, the Christians here in America are starting to become like THAT. Persecuting other religions because they aren't OUR religion. If those Christians on the other side of the world could see what some American "Christians" are doing, I think they'd be terrified. If you can't even trust your own brothers anymore, who can you trust. If your brothers are so much like your enemy, what are you supposed to think?

I think that these so-called "Christians" who keep toting America as a Christian nation should get off their high horse and remember what the first Christians went through, what our brothers and sisters on the other side of the world go through and what Jesus promised us before He left. That this fight WOULDN'T be easy and that we should face it with our best. No crying and screaming like little children who didn't get their way. Maybe if we stopped taking the easy way out, America might be able to be happy for once.

#1) Barack Obama has been a rabid advocate of abortion throughout his political career. . . Not only that, but Obama actually fought AGAINST a law that would have provided medical care for babies who survived abortion and were born alive.

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This is not just a political disagreement I have with him, but a moral one. No Christian should vote for anyone who has this stance.

#2) . . . The truth is that it isn't, and the truth is that Obama is a tireless promoter of the homosexual agenda.

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This is another moral issue I have with him. "Gay marriage" is not just an issue of law, but of morality. He has stated numerous times that homosexuality is not morally wrong. The church he very recently left "married" gay couples. If they get civil unions, that's one thing. But being a vehicle for making that behavior mainstream is past the line.

#3) In 1999, Obama voted against a bill barring early release for criminal sex offenders.

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That had better have been a horrible bill. This makes me angry.

#4) Obama voted against filtering inappropriate contentography on school and library computers.

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I'd like to know the details of that one. It's sick how kids can be exposed to it in places like schools or libraries. Certain filtering methods have problems, but for a library or school computer where you're supposed to be doing research, they can be minimized if the computers are being used properly.

#5) Obama voted for sex education for children in KINDERGARTEN through the 5th grade.

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That's got disaster written all over it. I'm not in favor of children believing in the goose until puberty, but who determines what is age-appropriate? I wouldn't want some liberal who believed it was appropriate for them to be learning about positions in grade 5 and fetishes in grade 8.

#6) Jeremiah Wright, who was Obama's pastor and mentor for nearly 20 years, and who married Obama and his wife, and who gave Obama the name for his book, is an anti-American lunatic who hates the United States:

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Guilt by association, I don't believe in. Obama's HANDLING of Jeremiah Wright ought to be what hurts him. You have a 20-year relationship with this man. He married you and baptized your kids. And yet, he's not the same man you thought he was when you were confronted with him saying the same kinds of things you tried to play down and defend him for. That means you are either naive, or just saying what is politically expedient. I think it's more of the second, since attention was called to the "wonderful new pastor" this church has, and a couple weeks after you said you were staying with Trinity United, you announced you were leaving. I trust Rev. Wright more than I trust Obama - "He's doing what politicians do."

#7) "Christian" Barack Obama actually carries a small idol of a Hindu god around with him for "good luck":

#8) "Christian" Barack Obama is going to accept a two foot tall gold plated idol of the Hindu god Hanuman from a group of prominent Hindus in India after it has been "sanctified" by Hindu priests:

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I'm not really up in arms about this. He's on the record as heterodox, but that's not much of a consideration when running for political office. America is a country of religious freedom. Would this have been a problem for the author if a conservative had done the same thing?

#9) Barack Obama's cousin, Raila Odinga, is a communist Muslim who planned to implement Sharia Law in Kenya if he had won the election in Kenya. When Raila Odinga lost the election, his Islamic supporters went on a murderous rampage in Kenya that made world headlines:

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Obama is not Odinga. However, any relationship the two might have, whether they are really cousins or not, deserves a look.

#10) Barack Obama has declared to America: "We Are No Longer A Christian Nation"

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We never were.

#11) Barack Obama is openly breaking federal law regarding the Great Seal of the United States:

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I don't see where he breaking the law. His seal is a parody of it and a derivative work, but it's not a forgery. This is both free speech and fair use, though I think putting his contemporary logo with the classic eagle is in bad taste.

#12) "Anti-war" Obama actually wants to send 10,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan:

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The situation is escalating over there, but you shouldn't bill yourself as anti-war if you are going to take responsibility for the defense of this nation and take the fight to the terrorists. He's not the person I would trust to do it though. McCain would be.

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No one talks about the emotional impacts that adoption usually brings. Let's also not forget that many of these "pro-life"' people could care less about the baby anyway once it's out of the mother's womb. They're on their own. No health care, many will start in the working class, and if they're sensitive, they're gonna be bullied around to harsh degrees, and who's stalling a bullying bill in congress right now? Conservatives. The bullying has become so out of control, that they have to make a law against it because people are killing themselves over such things. You call THEM pro-life now?

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Are you trying to be considerate about poor people's burdens instead of simply blaming them of their own laziness? Isn't that called "bleeding-heart" over there?

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It appears O Hussein....

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I hate to see how atheist / humanist folks often appear more "Christ-like" on this forum than many American conservative Christians who keep on slinging around absolutely childish slanders like this, "O Hussein".

If you believe you have the truth, do you think you can convince ANYONE of it without LOVE? Christians who slander their opponents drive people away from God and make big fools of themselves. I'm sick of this Gospel-dipped-in-mud game. I'm sure you could do a lot better than that.

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I'm not really up in arms about this. He's on the record as heterodox, but that's not much of a consideration when running for political office. America is a country of religious freedom. Would this have been a problem for the author if a conservative had done the same thing?

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Well, "conservative" Thomas Jefferson re-wrote the New Testament "editing out" all the stuff about Jesus' miracles and his divine origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

Should we make a poll to find out how big a problem this is to the conservatives (conservative Christians, that is) of today?

There are plenty of people, even on these boards who have said they intend to vote for John Mccain for various decent reasons, such as, say, taxes or the military.
Now, I might not agree with their view points but at least they have a logical reason for how they're going to vote.

The people who say they won't vote for Obama because he's a secret muslim or other nonsense only make themselves look foolish. There are plenty of valid reasons to vote for or not vote for either candidate. The extent to which people vilify those that oppose them shows up the sad face of partizan politics.