A Question About Tongues

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A Question About Tongues

As you know the nature of our WAR with the devil has a constant quality. Whatever God does, the devil will mimick and imitate. This is not new. God gave Moses certain signs to work before Pharaoh. The magicians of Pharaoh then set about to duplicate them. This was to prevent Pharaoh from "fearing God". When the disciples did their "miracles", the same thing happened. Paul was vexed by Simon the sorcerer until he put a stop to it. All God's prophets have had their demonic counter parts. Speaking in tongues is no less "problem". This is EASIER for devils to do.

God has given devils power over tongues and languages.

Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

In Jesus' day it was no problem for devils to "USE" the people to speak to Jesus. The people spoke Hebrew and so did the devils. It was expedient to USE the mouths of the people to communicate with Jesus. Thus the people were USED just like a ventriloquist USES a puppet! Here is a classic example of how the devil USED a disciple:

Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

The devil does not care who you are and whether or not you believe he exists. All human slaves in spiritual Egypt are "tools" for their exploitation. It does not matter if YOU think you are someone great to God! If you are a man, you are exploitable! OBSERVE WHO GAVE THEM POWER OVER ALL TONGUES! God did it! This means YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL of what you say and what you read and who you listen to. UNCLEAN SPIRITS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSING THEMSELVES THROUGH MEN for a long time!

From Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:


Some people would have you think that this life "is not so bad". You better think again. This life is a spiritual WAR ZONE and a raging battle goes on to subdue EACH HUMAN SOUL whether you are Christian or not, and whether you believe in God or not! All this is ENHANCED and made easier by those who teach that devils are "unreal and do not exist"! Learn when devils are using posters as "microphones and ampliphiers" to hide them!

The text from Revelation IS NOT A LIE! the devil has overcome the saints .... no matter what men might say to the contrary! Some DO NOT BELIEVE the scriptures!

It is easy for devils to speak to us in English just as it was easy for them to communicate with Jesus in Hebrew. Since men think hearing men speak in an unknown tongue is desirable, let us consider the differences when the Holy Spirit does it and when demons imitate.

A. When the Holy spirit did it during Pentecost, EVERY MAN WITHIN EARSHOT UNDERSTOOD THE MESSAGE in their native tongue! This is the KEY FACTOR. The Holy Spirit enlightens the mind and men UNDERSTAND!

Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THE EFFECT ON MAN'S EARS WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT DID HIS WORK!

B. When devils mimick the work of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost .... words come out of speakers mouths, but the hearers DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT! The Holy Spirit IS LIGHT and MEN UNDERSTAND in His presence! He is supposed to BE LIGHT just as JESUS TOLD YOU! This is not a lie nor a deception!

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The KEY OF DISCERNMENT

1. The Holy Spirit DOES NOT SULLY AND DISPARAGE JESUS! Any spirit doing that is from the devil ... even if it claims it is Christ! We had a case of that here and that spirit posted in English!

2. If men DO NOT UNDERSTAND, then the message is not from God! A Mexican, a Chinese, an Australian aborigine, and an Eskimo would ALL UNERSTAND THE MESSAGE ... if the Holy Ghost was speaking! Oh, Yes, folks! There is a whole lot of deception in the Pentecostal churches! Even their so-called "interpreters" are implants setup in congregations to lend credibility to the deceit and to hoodwink the congregations! CLEARLY ALL UNDERSTOOD no matter what their native language was and needed no so-called "interpreter" when the Holy Ghost spoke!

Now is "speaking in tongues" something great and desirable? That was the last "gift" Paul listed, and it caused havoc in his day when devils did their mimicry among his church members. Paul tried to bring "order" to the chaos and cascade of tongue speakers, but I have given you the REAL KEY of discernment!

The purpose of language is communication and use of words are understood when they express complete thoughts. You do not get that effect when a language is foreign to your ears. YOU ARE NOT EDIFIED!

Do you know the Word of God has the same effect as an unknown tongue? Even the Bible written in English has the same effect .... because of the parables, similes, and metaphores used in God's expressions. These serve as worded "veils and seals" to prevent those who should not understand from receiving what God has not given to them! So even the Bible is for many AN UNKNOWN TONGUE!

Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Isaiah 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. 13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

What is really "funny" to me and at the same time, it is a great tragedy is that everyone who touches a Bible and has read it a few times ... thinks he understands it! That is a SAD JOKE! No one can understand it perfectly except a SELECT PRIEST taught by God Himself!! How many men do you suppose God has ELECTED specifically to teach from The BOOK? Many are called but FEW ARE CHOSEN! Only a high priest SELECTED by the Father will receive the "KEYS" to remove all seals and to READ the BOOK WITH UNDERSTANDING! Many here at message boards, and in the churches, and among men in general fancy themselves to be "expert" in the Word ..... and they are not!

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The poster posing the two questions politely informed me that I did not answer the questions. Here is my follow through post below.

No answer? Okay!

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

This is the promise of the other Comfoter which Jesus said will come AFTER his return to the Father. This event with all its gifts was not to given liberally until AFTER Jesus' work was finished, not before. In OT days the prophets were special men given the gift of prophesy. They did speak in tongues but only via their parables, similes, and metaphores.

Some events were staged by God just to cause men in later generations to believe in Him and the record of truth which they left. The Pentecostal experience was one of a kind and very unique in that all men regardless of his native language heard and understood words spoken by ignorant Hebrew Jews who were versed ONLY in Hebrew, their native speech. And why doesn't God continue with this approach ......

Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Luke 18:8 Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Matthew 17:20 If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

You see you can get MORE than you ask for with a penny! I know you have heard that saying, "A penny for your thoughts"!

Revelation 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Matthew 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

You can do a lot of things with a penny. You can ask a question and get MORE than you bargained for!

John,

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 I am sorry I did not include the two questions previously.  Here is the lady's post.

A Question about Tongues


20, years ago in prayer, by myself, I started speaking in unknown tongues. The words basically flew out of my mouth from a breath deep within me.

In my ignorance....I thought I was an expert at this. I took the bible and read the whole thing in tongues...lol.

Then, as I matured, I found I had to "call upon them" and used them for intercession.


Why weren't tongues found in the Old test?

And why would they be done away with?


Love,
Leah

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Tongues (or prophesying for that matter) can come from a number of sources, not all good or desirable:

1. The "gift of tongues" from the Holy Spirit. Only people given this gift by the Spirit can do it and only as He wills.

2. Tongues from the spirit of Christ we receive when we are born again. Only Christians can do this. It is the prayer language Paul is referring to in 1Cor 14. You can do this anytime your spirit is moved by joy, intercession, or sorrow.

3. Tongues by demonic influence. Nasty.

4. Tongues from the fallen spirit in the unregenerate man. More Nasty.

5. Tongues from your own mind and soul. Technically not real tongues since it is not coming from a spirirtual source. More a pseudo-tongues that is made up in the subconscious mind.
 
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ah i understand now. Yes the same thing happened to me. But i knew about them as we had talked about gifts of the spirit at our youth group. Though I asked God to take it away if it wasnt from him and it didnt go so it usually happens when i dont know what to pray but its always been when ive been in Gods presence.
 
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