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Scrutiny for Evolution... but what about ID and Creationism?
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Oh please, now you're just being a dishonesty whiner (well, actually, we already knew that, you're just demonstrating that to an extreme degree now).
I already stated. For cytochrome C, energy production in the cell. Next to this, apoptosis, controlled cell death.
For GUU, producing the amino-acid valine.
Now you're just trolling.
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yes. I clicked on the link once and it took me to a single post, which was the very same post. I then noticed that the link you provided had the same web address as the single post I was viewing. And it didn't take me too long to figure out that you had just linked back to your own post and that if I kept clicking on the link I'd go in and endless loop.
Now, are you actually going to provide a response to my post, or more childishness?
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Just to be sure. If "energy production in the cell" is still to hard to understand for you, Juvenissun. Experiments with mice have been done where the gene for cytochrome C was removed from the embryos of mice. All mice embryos without cytochrome C died before birth. Furhtermore, in cells where cytochrome C was removed apoptosis (controlled cell death) pathways were disrupted.
So, without cytochrome C the cells in your body cannot perform controlled cell-death, a process which is very important for a healthy body. However, this wouldn't matter, since you would have died before birth if you missed the gene anyway.
So, without cytochrome C the cells in your body cannot perform controlled cell-death, a process which is very important for a healthy body. However, this wouldn't matter, since you would have died before birth if you missed the gene anyway.
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This says it all. You can't (coherently) talk about biology without knowing any of it. And this isn't even the hard stuff. This is information that I was introduced to while still in high school. You don't even have a high school level understanding of biology and you're trying to lecture us? Sounds like you have a lot of pride, and I thought that was a bad thing in your religion.
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I make a thread wondering why those who support Evolution are honest and willing to criticize their own ideas and are willing to do their own research. I also wonder why creationists are dishonest and aren't willing to do any research.
What happens?
I get those who support Evolution who are more than willing to back up their claims and ideas.
And, of course, I get those who support creationism who are more than willing to act childishly and to be dishonest and unwilling to even try to support their claims.
We have AV1611Vet who asked for evidence even though he said nothing would convince him. We also have him saying he's against Evolution even though he doesn't know what it is. So how can you honestly be against what you know nothing about?
We also have juvenissun who has claimed that no one has scrutinized his ideas (which plenty have) and that a certain piece of genetics has no function even though he was told repeatedly what the function was.
What is up with the level of dishonesty and childishness among creationists? Don't they realize that if they want to be taken seriously or treated with respect they ought to mature up and at least try to support their claims?
I make a thread wondering why those who support Evolution are honest and willing to criticize their own ideas and are willing to do their own research. I also wonder why creationists are dishonest and aren't willing to do any research.
What happens?
I get those who support Evolution who are more than willing to back up their claims and ideas.
And, of course, I get those who support creationism who are more than willing to act childishly and to be dishonest and unwilling to even try to support their claims.
We have AV1611Vet who asked for evidence even though he said nothing would convince him. We also have him saying he's against Evolution even though he doesn't know what it is. So how can you honestly be against what you know nothing about?
We also have juvenissun who has claimed that no one has scrutinized his ideas (which plenty have) and that a certain piece of genetics has no function even though he was told repeatedly what the function was.
What is up with the level of dishonesty and childishness among creationists? Don't they realize that if they want to be taken seriously or treated with respect they ought to mature up and at least try to support their claims?
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I can give you 10, no problem. In fact; I'll give you 38.
Taken from: http://chemistry.umeche.maine.edu/CHY431/Evolve2.html
As for no one being able to name 1000 of them, Hubert Yockey in 1992 came up with this exact figure of 10^92 by using probability/information theory. You do not need to have 10^92 actual sequences to verify whether or not it is functional. So, using probability, not only can I name you 1000, I can name you 10^92.
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Cloning a human being in a laboratory is junk.Hi, AV!
Even what's-his-name makes fun of it in his song, I Think I'm a Clone Now.
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10[sup]1[/sup] = 1 and 10[sup]0[/sup] = 0 ... 9 --- if I remember my math correctly.
You can also have 10[sup]1/3[/sup], which, I believe, would be 1/3.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.
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x[sup]1[/sup] = x and x[sup]0[/sup] = 1 for any x (except 0, in which case 0[sup]0[/sup] is undefined).
Using the laws of exponents and basic algebra, you can easily determine sensible definitions of x[sup]-n[/sup] (= 1/x[sup]n[/sup]) and x[sup]1/n[/sup] (= nth root of x). And, thence, x[sup]m/n[/sup] = (nth root of x)[sup]m[/sup].
Yay math.
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I think you're referring to Weird Al Yankovich.
And, if by "junk" you mean "ethically questionable" I think I agree with you for once.
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Only when you take log (10^1), log (10^0) or log (10^(1/3)) does it equal the values you listed.
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10[sup]5[/sup] = 100,000
10[sup]4[/sup] = 10,000
10[sup]3[/sup] = 1,000
10[sup]2[/sup] = 100
10[sup]1[/sup] = 10
10[sup]0[/sup] = 1
This is because:
So 10[sup]5[/sup] is 10 times itself five times, or 10*10*10*10*10, or 100,000.
Now, a[sup]b/c[/sup] is the same as:
So 10[sup]1/3[/sup] is equal to ³√10.
Yay maths. Yay Wikipedia.
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