Darwin-Jesus Fish Compromise

pgp_protector · Jul 3, 2008

Rochir said:

Ouch

Took me a few seconds to get that one

Tisk Tisk Tisk

Rochir · Jul 3, 2008

This is kinda interesting:

Mling · Jul 3, 2008

Hmmm, that one could be taken in a lot ways. Pro-evolution with Darwin as God? Anti-evolution with Darwin crucified and staying dead (presumably)?

LovebirdsFlying · Jul 3, 2008

pgp_protector said:
Ouch

Took me a few seconds to get that one

Tisk Tisk Tisk

I still don't get it. Am I dense?

pgp_protector · Jul 3, 2008

LovebirdsFlying said:
I still don't get it. Am I dense?

Think of the Normal Family Stickers showing the Husband, Wife & Kids.

Mling · Jul 3, 2008

One big fish. Several slightly smaller fish. Lots and lots of baby fish. Hordes even.

LovebirdsFlying · Jul 3, 2008

OK, light dawns.... I was distracted by the rough cross shape, and I wondered if there was a hidden comment on Mormonism not being real Christianity. I didn't even think about lots and lots of "caviar"....

Here's that "sushi" one:

And I can't copy this one, so I'll link it: http://www.thenewyorkerstore.com/pr...ns&title=Religion&whichpage=12&sortBy=popular

Adammi · Jul 3, 2008

hiumble1 said:
and what proof do you have regarding this evolution (last I heard it was still a theory)...
Be careful to not fall into the trap as mentioned in Job... you werent there, but apparently you know...

Just a theory? Oy vey. I hate it when people who clearly know nothing of science try to talk about it. There is no such thing as just a theory. From Wikipedia:

In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. For the scientist, "theory" is not in any way an antonym of "fact". For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and the general theory of relativity.
In common usage, the word theory is often used to signify a conjecture, an opinion, a speculation, or a hypothesis. In this usage, a theory is not necessarily based on facts; in other words, it is not required to be consistent with true descriptions of reality. True descriptions of reality are more reflectively understood as statements which would be true independently of what people think about them.
According to the National Academy of Sciences,
Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature that is supported by many facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena

There is a vast difference between the way we incorrectly use the word "theory" in everyday speech, and its actual scientific definition. In common usage when we say "theory" we don't mean "theory" we actually mean hypothesis or hypothetical. A theory is an all but proven hypothesis.

You want proof? Science it not the study of proof because you can't absolutely prove anything. If you are looking to science to prove something then you are looking in the wrong place. Rather it is a study of known facts. The known facts are that evolution exists. It has existed for the past 13.5 Billion years, it is existing now most notably in the evolution of diseases such as MRSA and Avian Flu, and it will exist in the future.

This is what we know. Please tell me something we don't, and we can present your independent research to the scientific community.

LovebirdsFlying · Jul 3, 2008

hiumble1 said:
and what proof do you have regarding this evolution (last I heard it was still a theory)...
Be careful to not fall into the trap as mentioned in Job... you werent there, but apparently you know...

May I point out that neither you nor I nor anyone else alive today was there either? How then can anybody say they "know"?

HippiePoser · Jul 3, 2008

I'm a fan of this one:

I saw that on a car a few months ago and about crashed laughing.

Mling · Jul 3, 2008

I've been wondering for a while how many accidents are caused by somebody speeding and tailgating in order to read somebody else's bumper sticker.

Tiberius · Jul 3, 2008

LovebirdsFlying said:
May I point out that neither you nor I nor anyone else alive today was there either? How then can anybody say they "know"?

How did Lincoln die? Shot in a theatre? Do you "know" this? May I point out that neither you nor I nor anyone else alive today was there either? How then can anybody say they "know"?

Once you realise that eyewitness accounts are not the only way we have of learning things, you'll realise where that argument is flawed. And if you ever use that argument again, go and sit in the naughty corner.

LovebirdsFlying · Jul 4, 2008

Tiberius said:
How did Lincoln die? Shot in a theatre? Do you "know" this? May I point out that neither you nor I nor anyone else alive today was there either? How then can anybody say they "know"?

Once you realise that eyewitness accounts are not the only way we have of learning things, you'll realise where that argument is flawed.

No, I don't "know" that Lincoln was shot in a theater, because I wasn't there. I know the history books say so, but that's all I know. How do you "know" the history books have it right? Do you believe everything you read? History books once stated as fact that there was an ancient human known as "Piltdown Man." That was proven to be a hoax. All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure whether Genesis is a literal account or is figurative language. Anyone who says they DO know is, in my opinion, very conceited.

And if you ever use that argument again, go and sit in the naughty corner.

Just one more example of what I've been really getting sick of around here.

I pointed out that no one was there in response to not-so-humble1 smearing the OP with a sarcastic, "You weren't there, but apparently you know..." Of course the OP wasn't there. Nobody was. Where is your flame at THAT use of the same logic? It's OK to use it in *favor* of literal young earth creationism, but not *against*? Furthermore, WWMC is my home forum. I've had enough of this personal attack crap elsewhere on CF, and WWMC has been my safe haven. Please don't bring it in here. Go sit in a naughty corner, my foot.

IndomitableAmy · Jul 4, 2008

Tiberius said:
How did Lincoln die? Shot in a theatre? Do you "know" this? May I point out that neither you nor I nor anyone else alive today was there either? How then can anybody say they "know"?

Once you realise that eyewitness accounts are not the only way we have of learning things, you'll realise where that argument is flawed. And if you ever use that argument again, go and sit in the naughty corner.

And I don't know that you can rely on any evidence. Last Thursday-ism, if I have the day right, is the notion that the universe came into existence just as it is last Thursday, complete with the fictional memories we may think exist before then. You cannot prove it wrong. You cannot definitively know otherwise. Neither can you prove any other selves exist, or that you are not, in fact, a brain in a vat.

But radical doubt is not a fun place to live, so whether we can truly, definitely know or not, we assume we can. All this is quite off-topic, but perhaps you might stop talking about other ways of learning.. as you cannot prove there's anything you have truly learned.

As far as I understand, we're supposed to play nice. Be respectful and all that. I am no authority, but still, I hope you will abide by that.

Sigh.. OPer who I cannot remember and don't want to open a new window.. I hope you find a fish you like.. and get it and enjoy it.

TheManeki · Jul 14, 2008

I just remembered an article I read in Wired a while back, which had this image.

Not quite what you were looking for, Adam, but I think it's cute.

pgp_protector · Jul 14, 2008

TheManeki said:
I just remembered an article I read in Wired a while back, which had this image.

Not quite what you were looking for, Adam, but I think it's cute.

Looks a lot like post #7

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=47576726&postcount=7

TheManeki · Jul 14, 2008

So it does!

Great minds run in the same gutter, I guess. ^_^

Minty · Jul 14, 2008

pgp_protector said:
Looks a lot like post #7
http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=47576726&postcount=7

I LOVE this picture, it's brilliant :clap:

Eve_Sundancer · Jul 14, 2008

TheManeki said:
I just remembered an article I read in Wired a while back, which had this image.

Not quite what you were looking for, Adam, but I think it's cute.

I would *love* to have a bumper sticker like that.

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