Hundreds of same-sex couples wed across California

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SAN FRANCISCO - Serenaded by a gay men's chorus, showered with rose petals and toasted with champagne, hundreds of tearful same-sex couples got married across the state Tuesday in what some are calling California's new Summer of Love.

Wearing everything from T-shirts to tuxedos and lavish gowns, they rushed down to county clerks' offices to obtain marriage licenses and exchange vows on the first full day that gay marriage became legal in California by order of the state's highest court. They were joined by jubilant crowds that came to witness the event.

George Takei, who played Sulu on the original "Star Trek," beamed as he and his partner of 21 years, Brad Altman, obtained one of the new gender-neutral marriage licenses - with the words "Party A" and "Party B" instead of "bride" and "groom" - at the West Hollywood City Hall. They are planning a September wedding.
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This is just disgusting. It is a travesty! :mad: Judicial tyranny has reigned supreme in California. Immorality has won a battle. This is just so sad. I am in tears over this. :cry: May the Lord have mercy on us all! :crossrc:
 
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http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsst...0080617/485736c0_3ca6_15526200806171901337408

This is just disgusting. It is a travesty! :mad: Judicial tyranny has reigned supreme in California. Immorality has won a battle. This is just so sad. I am in tears over this. :cry: May the Lord have mercy on us all! :crossrc:
It is judicial tyranny and if a judicial court did that for a conservative law, you'de see the ACLU having fits & the libs all picketing in an outrage.
But a court usurped the democracy of people's majority vote in favor of something they like & they're 'STRANGELY SILENT' on the will of the people being utterly trampled on.
It's ok when it's in their favor... I've said then as I say now, this party is hypocritical and lacks any conscience. Everything is for the moment just to get what they want - principles & truth mean very little.

According to Bill Oreilly last nite, the polls show that 70% of the USA is against gay marriage altogether. Some of that 70% say civil unions can be given instead.

Here's who your judges are in the 9th Circuit Fed. court - (the same ones legislating from the bench):
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365701,00.html



This just happened out here - the judge had inappropriate content (inappropriate behavior with animals) on his own website that he got caught with and had to recuse himself from the inappropriate content/obscenity trial he was overseeing!
This is the calibur of Federal judge making laws in Calif. from the bench.

Do a study on corrupt judges in the OT - God is seriously displeased with that.
 
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But a court usurped the democracy of people's majority vote in favor of something they like & they're 'STRANGELY SILENT' on the will of the people being utterly trampled on.

Courts are not suppose to be democratic. Otherwise laws could easily be changed, create legal chaos and make individual rights worthless. A Democratic vote doesn't change the law unless it is the legal procedure to do so.
 
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Either we all drink from the same fountain or we don't. If you want a make a law based on the bible, make pre-marital sex and adultery illegal and make it so people who've had pe marital sex can't get married. Of course if you just want to pick and choose what biblical guidelines to follow to harass gay people through government then this is the way to go.
 

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Kind of like what happened in 1968 when the courts ruled that laws against interracial marriage were illegal.
Um sorry, there is being wrong, and something being SIN and wrong.

You cannot lift up interracial marriage like that to support homosexual marriage.
For that matter, if we want to use your method here, I can use their wrongness of forbidding interracial marriage to claim that inappropriate behavior with animals should be condoned.
Polygamy should be condoned, incest should be condoned for marriages.

This doesn't float. Doing one wrong doesnt' mean all other combinations are lawful & right.

You guys need to get a new argument unless you want to support incest & inappropriate behavior with animals & polygamy & underage marriages
 
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Either we all drink from the same fountain or we don't. If you want a make a law based on the bible, make pre-marital sex and adultery illegal and make it so people who've had pe marital sex can't get married. Of course if you just want to pick and choose what biblical guidelines to follow to harass gay people through government then this is the way to go.
Ok, then that has to work with every other moral law we have too.

all cheating, all theft all lying all fornication, all inappropriate contentography etc.

LINES MUST BE DRAWN FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY - you cannot use this line of argument either, it fails miserably when used.
Otherwise we have ALL bible laws or NONE.
Do you want to live in a society with NO bible laws in place?

Try again please
 
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American laws are not based on biblical laws, I was being a tad sarcastic. Of the ten commandments, only two are laws; don't kill and don't steal. You don't have to be jewish or christian to agree with those.


Do you want to live in a society with NO bible laws in place?
yes actually. I want a democracy, not a theocracy. following biblical guidelines is and should be a personal thing left to individuals and NOT to be enforced by the government.
 
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American laws are not based on biblical laws, I was being a tad sarcastic. Of the ten commandments, only two are laws; don't kill and don't steal. You don't have to be jewish or christian to agree with those.


yes actually. I want a democracy, not a theocracy. following biblical guidelines is and should be a personal thing left to individuals and NOT to be enforced by the government.
Ok then, then allow murder, rape, torture, theft, store owners can cheat customers and use false scales & not give back proper change, extortion is fine, slander and the lists go on.

Enjoy your society. Sorry the laws COME FROM GOD. They were here long before you were. :cool:

And American laws WERE formed on biblical principles. :)
 
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Ok then, then allow murder, rape, torture, theft, store owners can cheat customers and use false scales & not give back proper change, extortion is fine, slander and the lists go on.
you can't change reality, and in reality, people can agree that those things are bad regardless of where they come from

And American laws WERE formed on biblical principles. :)
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Um sorry, there is being wrong, and something being SIN and wrong.

You cannot lift up interracial marriage like that to support homosexual marriage.
For that matter, if we want to use your method here, I can use their wrongness of forbidding interracial marriage to claim that inappropriate behavior with animals should be condoned.
Polygamy should be condoned, incest should be condoned for marriages.

This doesn't float. Doing one wrong doesnt' mean all other combinations are lawful & right.

You guys need to get a new argument unless you want to support incest & inappropriate behavior with animals & polygamy & underage marriages
No the comparison is right and just. You simply don’t like having the comparison made.


Those opposed to interracial marriage cited the sinfulness and wickedness of such unions. They cited bible verses and spoke of inappropriate behavior with animals just as you are now. In the end the arguments for discriminating are the same, the motivation is the same, the prejudice is the same. Only the people be attacked and condemned has changed
 
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Ok, then that has to work with every other moral law we have too.

all cheating, all theft all lying all fornication, all inappropriate contentography etc.

LINES MUST BE DRAWN FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY - you cannot use this line of argument either, it fails miserably when used.


How exactly is discrimination against minorities?
Why not draw this “good for society” line at racial equality? That certainly is unbiblical?
Why not draw this “good for society” line at religious equality? That certainly is unbiblical?

Otherwise we have ALL bible laws or NONE.
Do you want to live in a society with NO bible laws in place?

Try again please
Including laws about killing disobedient children
Laws allowing slavery
Laws against civil rights
Laws about the morality of genocide against non-Christians
 
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Either we all drink from the same fountain or we don't. If you want a make a law based on the bible, make pre-marital sex and adultery illegal and make it so people who've had pe marital sex can't get married. Of course if you just want to pick and choose what biblical guidelines to follow to harass gay people through government then this is the way to go.

Say that to a black guy and chances are you'll be picking yourself up out of the ashes.
 
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I just simply can't believe that we have Christians on here supporting gay marriage! How disgusting! How can a Christian possibly support homosexual marriage when both the Bible and Tradition clearly say that homosexual acts are gravely wrong???
 
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:wave:Paladin, I believe it's liberal theology using relative & subjective truth in a postmodern era.
It's the best way I can explain it. The Bible is clear tho yes.

All we can do is speak out about what God says and let God handle
the rest.
I just see what's happening today as prophecy being fulfilled.
 
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To be fair, it's not really judicial tyranny. This government is based on opposition to the tyranny of the majority. Let's go back in time. Set aside your emotions and consider this: when women got the vote, do you think the majority of the country supported it? when slavery was abolished, do you think the majority of the country supported it? when interracial marriage was legalized, do you think the majority of the country supported it? ...and so on.

The majority has never been allowed to get their way when getting their way directly involves denying rights to a minority group, and this time is no different.

Instead of reflecting your personal morals on the rest of us, why don't we celebrate that we live in a country where people can live their lives how they choose, and increasingly so? Plenty of things I find disgusting are still around, and I don't call for the censorship of them because I value the idea that we welcome all kinds here.

By the way, I cried too...out of happiness, when I saw lovers that had been waiting for that day for years and years, and were finally allowed to demonstrate their commitment.
 
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it truly is a sad day when judges trump voters rights, and when immorality is shoved down our throats against the majorities will
This is what has me utterly baffled by liberals who scream bloody murder if rights are trampled on; when a majority makes a vote, they're usurped by a small panel of judges!!!!!!!!!!
Of all things the ACLU should be screaming about, it's been ignored entirely!

That shows me one thing, they're BIASED to the point of allowing rights to be trampled if they get what they want! (wait till it works the other way tho).

hypocrisy abounds
 
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As I read through this thread, it seems to me that a number of perceptions have been shattered by this gay marriage issue.

  • America's judicial system was not based on Mosaic Law; it was founded upon Roman Law and Order.
  • America is not a democracy; it is a federal republic, which means that officials make the key decisions, not the citizens.
  • Marriage was originally a civic ceremony, not a religious one.
  • While it is true that Christians are the salt of the earth, our salt that preserved the good in society is being cast aside and replaced with secular humanism.
I think it's time for a wake-up call. Time is short.

Rev. 13:11-18
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb (appears to be God fearing) and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast (Islam), whose deadly wound was healed.

He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men (9/11). And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast (Radical Islam - Al Qaida - OBL was CIA) who was wounded by the sword and lived (Battle of Tours, 732 AD).

He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed (recall the Korean missionaries). He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads (the RFID chip, patented in the USA), and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him/her who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man (Javier Solana): His number is 666 .

The False Prophet comes from the Lamb/Dragon beast and deceives those who received the mark (change you can believe in?).

Given the War on Terror, the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, FEMA camps, and Gitmo, you will either put your faith in the Lamb/Dragon beast and voluntarily take the chip that enables commerce or will you die professing faith in Jesus Christ.

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man." (Luke 21:34-36)
 
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