Happy Athiest's Day

Morcova said:

The least you could do is not lie about the question I asked.

I asked where were christians AND ONLY christians being persecuted. All you did was show me a list of places where christians were being persecuted with no evidence that only christians were being persecuted in those countries.

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oy vey.
Ok fine, COLUMBIA. Just this morning in church -IRONCALLY- we had 3 missionaries speak before the message. They just returned from a recent trip there for the children who's parents were slaughtered and/or imprisoned there for Christianity.
Real life with experiences coming back from there from an orphanage our church is sponsering.

By the by, persecution is what it is, demanding "exclusive" clauses in the question doesn't exclude Christians who suffer from it whether it fits your personal criteria or not.

In fact, the stats show that there are more persecuted for their faith today than in all the past combined. It's also in America, it just isn't physical like other areas.

Morcova said:

The least you could do is not lie about the question I asked.

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Still having anger issues?

Morcova said:

I asked where were christians AND ONLY christians being persecuted. All you did was show me a list of places where christians were being persecuted with no evidence that only christians were being persecuted in those countries.

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So if a nation persecutes thousands of Christians and one New Age Calathumpian this will prove what?

Nadiine said:

oy vey.
Ok fine, COLUMBIA. Just this morning in church -IRONCALLY- we had 3 missionaries speak before the message. They just returned from a recent trip there for the children who's parents were slaughtered and/or imprisoned there for Christianity.
Real life with experiences coming back from there from an orphanage our church is sponsering.

By the by, persecution is what it is, demanding "exclusive" clauses in the question doesn't exclude Christians who suffer from it whether it fits your personal criteria or not.

In fact, the stats show that there are more persecuted for their faith today than in all the past combined. It's also in America, it just isn't physical like other areas.

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I'm sure he'll find at least one pagan amongst them to prove that it's not just Christians being persecuted

Montalban said:

I'm sure he'll find at least one pagan amongst them to prove that it's not just Christians being persecuted

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lol
it wouldn't matter, his exclusive clause in the question doesn't dismiss the fact that it's persecution.
No one is saying no others suffer severe persecution - he can't just force his own critique as if it dismisses what it actually is.

Any Christian suffering under it firsthand wouldn't accept his criteria as if it means they aren't suffering for their faith since others mite as well. When atheists are rounded up & put to death becuz they're atheists, I'll be sure to set his same standard & see how it holds up to denying what it actually is.
It is what it is no matter who sets the standards.

Saying that, I'll say this, I know of no other religious faith going thru this intense attack or prejudice around the globe. Biblically it's Jews & Christians who see the brunt of it - so far it remains true to prophecy as I see it

Montalban said:

Still having anger issues?


So if a nation persecutes thousands of Christians and one New Age Calathumpian this will prove what?

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exactly - who is he to set stipulations on it as if it changes what it is?

Again, if this were happening to atheists or pagans, he sure wouldn't set this criteria - he'd demand it be recognized for what it is.
& there goes the whole Salem Witch hunts - becuz golly, other people of other religions were also persecuted other than those folks, so that means it wasn't persecution at all.

What's worse, it proves such a bias that facts no longer matter, they'll reset boundaries & criteria & twist facts around to try to dismiss known truth to hang onto a lie. It just shows that what is untrue is actually preferred to suit the bias & that's when bias has become dangerous imo.

Good grief. Is there anywhere on this forum where a fun thread doesn't get turned into a snarkfest?

*unsubscribes*

Garnet2727 said:

Good grief. Is there anywhere on this forum where a fun thread doesn't get turned into a snarkfest?

*unsubscribes*

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ask your friend who asked the question

Kol said:

I don't think there is one, so maybe today should be it...or maybe today already is it.

You must celebrate this blessed and sacred event by sitting at home and wondering if there really is such a day...

But the real question is, does Athiest's Day exist because I suggested it, or did I merely percieve it, even if I did so with my imagination?

Either way, peace guys.

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I always thought atheist day was April the first. April fools day. The fool hath said in his heart there is no God?

Of course that is a joke believers are always throwing around thinking it's so cool.

Then again who are the real fools?

Garnet2727 said:

Good grief. Is there anywhere on this forum where a fun thread doesn't get turned into a snarkfest?

*unsubscribes*

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I suggest a thread just for Snarking, thus leaving the others threads Snark free.

Morcova said:

Or the morons who lack the intellect to answer a simple question.

Well, you got around to it finally, but naturally still missed the point.

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What point? You mean that if Christians are 'amongst' a group being persecuted it lessens their persecution?

Nadiine said:

exactly - who is he to set stipulations on it as if it changes what it is?

Again, if this were happening to atheists or pagans, he sure wouldn't set this criteria - he'd demand it be recognized for what it is.
& there goes the whole Salem Witch hunts - becuz golly, other people of other religions were also persecuted other than those folks, so that means it wasn't persecution at all.

What's worse, it proves such a bias that facts no longer matter, they'll reset boundaries & criteria & twist facts around to try to dismiss known truth to hang onto a lie. It just shows that what is untrue is actually preferred to suit the bias & that's when bias has become dangerous imo.

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Maybe the Holocaust wasn't so bad for Jews because Gypsies got slaughtered as well?

Montalban said:

What point? You mean that if Christians are 'amongst' a group being persecuted it lessens their persecution?

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I gathered that his point is to imply that if the reason for the persecution isn't ONLY against Christians, and other religions are also being persecuted by the same people, then it isn't just "Christianity" under persecution, but religion itself; any religion - Christians included.

As if that makes it any less persecution to the Christian - then you can lump in all those who ARE only christians being persecuted which there are many.
Again if this were happening to Atheists around the world I wonder if the criteria might change for sympathy to them?

He should head to the Sudan - I'd be shocked if he never heard of Darfur's holocaust... even George Clooney went to the UN to raise awareness of their plight. Lots of churches have donated help to them, also Samaritan's Purse.

Nadiine said:

I gathered that his point is to imply that if the reason for the persecution isn't ONLY against Christians, and other religions are also being persecuted by the same people, then it isn't just "Christianity" under persecution, but religion itself; any religion - Christians included.

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What then of countries like Indonesia, that don't persecute Islam but do Chrisitanity?

It is not religions but Christianity really that is percecuted. I have not seen anyone percecuting Mulsims or Jews or Hindu in the USA ... In the schools the Mulsims are allowed to pray at schools, to celebrate their holidays... while my kid have to have a "holiday" party for Christmas and no mention of the Chist story.. .Last year she celebrated Hannukah...as part of their study... but the not Christmas ... as it was thought to be too "well known" among the students... How about this as percecution?

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so true, I don't hear other religions being attacked around the globe like Christianity. Jews as well. (refers back to bible prophecy)

It would seem a main part of Atheist's Day is Christian jokes.

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Was it atheists or theists that started making jokes on this thead? If you'ld like we could make it (the jokes) a major focus of athiest's day.

Nadiine said:

ask your friend who asked the question

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So, is it your perception that we atheists started talking about Christians being persecuted in this thread? Ie the person who asked the question?

Or was it Christians that started talking about Christian persecution on an athiest's day thread that started this hullabaloo?

It is not religions but Christianity really that is percecuted. I have not seen anyone percecuting Mulsims or Jews or Hindu in the USA ... In the schools the Mulsims are allowed to pray at schools, to celebrate their holidays... while my kid have to have a "holiday" party for Christmas and no mention of the Chist story.. .Last year she celebrated Hannukah...as part of their study... but the not Christmas ... as it was thought to be too "well known" among the students... How about this as percecution?

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That is not persecution. It is equal oppertunity. You guys see everything as persecution. Why? Because you all have victem complexes. You WANT this prophesy to be true.

Christianity feels like it is their place to wonder the globe trying to push their brand of truth on to others. Newsbreak!!! Many, many, many people do not like this behavior of yours Christians. I know you are commanded by your book to do so, but that does not absolve your initiation of this persecution. I garuntee that you would see just as much persecution of atheists if we travelled around pushing atheism on others than shrieking "PERSECUTION" when we are given the cold shoulder.

Bhutan is a prime example. They are Buddhist. They want to stay Buddhist. They did not persecute ANY Christians till you guys came around telling them what weak, pitifull creatures they are, and they need to subscribe to your brand of truth in order to "cleanse" themselves.

If you stick your head in a hornet's nest, expect to get stung.