Religious dreams and visions...

stray bullet

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Are they blasphemous?

I'm curious, if you had, say a dream that delt with God or your religion, would you dismiss it as just a dream? If you had a dream in which you, say, met God... would you believe it was a message from God, just a dream, or that you actually met God? I'm just being general... it doesn't have to be you meeting God.

Let's also say that despite your vision, dream or whatever, you didn't actually 'learn' anything, morally, spirtually or even generally speaking. What then?
 

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ive never had a dream from God but ive had pictures and visions. sometimes God reveals things in them about things that i need to change or that the church needs to change often people at church receive similar things in different ways - ie through words of knowledge or wen God gives a scripture. Other times it can be completely personal, eg. ust once i had a vision were i was knelt at the foot of the criss and Jesus just lifted me up and said dont stay there, im alive now. Another time when i was down i just asked God to hold me and ha a picture were Jesus lifted me up.

Thats what they are to me.
 
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Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

"Are they blasphemous?" Well at least these aren't huh?
 
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Hi all!

Please allow me to recycle an old post:

The Jewish take on dreams varies.

Rabbi Jonathan is recorded in the Talmud as saying that, "A person is shown in a dream only what is suggested by his own thoughts." However, the Talmud also records Rabbi Hanina ben Isaac as saying that, "Dreams are a form of prophecy." The Talmud also records a middle view. Rabbi Yohanan quotes Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai as saying that, "Just as there can be no grain without straw, so can there be no dream without meaningless matters." Our Sages also differentiate between meaningless dreams & meaningful ones.

Fasting (from sunup to sundown) after a particularly troubling dream was/is not unknown.

If one has had a troubling dream, there is the following prayer:

"Oh Lord, I am Yours and my dreams are Yours. I have dreamt a dream and do not know what it is. Whether I have dreamt about myself, or my companions have dreamt about me, or I have dreamt about others, if they are good dreams, confirm and reinforce them like the dreams of Joseph, and if they require healing, heal them as the waters of Marah were healed by Moses our Teacher, and as Miriam was healed of her tzara'at and Hezekiah of his sickness and the waters of Jericho by Elisha. As You did turn the curses of the wicked Balaam to blessings, so turn all my dreams into blessings for me."

Look at the account in Genesis 41 of Joseph interpreting Pharoah's dreams. 41:8 tells us, none of Pharaoh's wise men could interpret his dreams. Yet after Joseph's longish interpretation of Pharaoh's dream (41:25-36), it says "and the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh." Pharaoh instinctively knew that Joseph's interpretation was correct because the correct interpretation was already there in Pharaoh's subconscious. Joseph merely knew how to draw it out. The wise men did not know this. Pharaoh rejected their proffered interpretations because they didn't jibe with what he sensed, however vaguely, was there in his own subconscious, lurking just beneath the surface.

Look further back at Joseph in prison, interpreting the butler's and the baker's dream. How could Joseph tell that the butler would be restored to his position while the baker would not be? The butler (Genesis 40:9-11) dreamt that he actually fulfilled his responsibilities, i.e. he pressed juice from grapes into a cup & gave Pharaoh the cup to drink from. The baker (40:16-17) tried to carry out his responsibilities but was prevented, i.e. the birds ate the baked goodies before he could serve them to Pharaoh. Birds are normally afraid of people, of people who are alive; they are not afraid of corpses. In his dream, the baker was already dead; Joseph understood this. As Joseph informed the butler & the baker beforehand (40:8): "Do not interpretations belong to God?"

Questions?

Be well!

ssv:wave:
 
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hey stray bullet, I see you are from Tulsa, I am from OKC :wave:

I have had 'visions'. I have even had dreams with/about God in them, there are some I would say were 'prophetic'. I do not believe them to be blasphemous, I believe they came from God and God is not going to blasphem Himself. What is the difference between the prophets in the bible and prophets today? They weren't considered blasphemous then so why should we be considered that now? As far as dreams go, I cannot say yes they were/are prophetic, no one can really know that for sure, but I can say I do personally believe some people do have prophetic dreams.
 
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Most religious dreams are wishful thinking on our part, like dreaming that Christ comes to you and gives you a special mission, but doesn't tell you what it is, or a gives you a task that is in conflict with scriptural truth.

But a small percentage are genuine. If you have had one, look at it carefully to discover the hidden meanings behind the symbolism. www.dreamdoctor.com is excellent for this.
 
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yep, God also conveys his message in dreams and visions, one way to verify this is to go back to the bible, pray or fast (as stillsmallvoice pointed out). A couple at my church had had a vision once. They were looking for a new home and were praying about this, when one night, the wife got a vision of the look of the house. Some days later, they went for a house inspection and recognised that house as the one in the wife's vision, so they bought it.
 
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well I had a dream last night that i dont know if it was from God but in it we were sat around a table and my friend got saved and another friend was sat next to her crying tears of sorrow.

Dont know about this.

I do have a lot of pictures though and ive been having these since before i knew what they were.
 
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Originally posted by shout2thelord
well I had a dream last night that i dont know if it was from God but in it we were sat around a table and my friend got saved and another friend was sat next to her crying tears of sorrow.

Dont know about this.

I do have a lot of pictures though and ive been having these since before i knew what they were.

I think thats a GREAT dream...
 
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