Originally posted by Gabriel
We wouldn't know or care. That's the point we are trying to make. if you are not elect, you have a heart of stone and no desire for God.
When you came to Christ was it like buying a vacuum? You needed it so you figured, "What the heck, the sooner the better." Or did you feel a stirring inside you, a love that began to grow for God that wasn't there before?
With all due respect Gabriel I'd like to remind you of a testimony we heard the other day from a wise and discerning former Calvinist. He said that he has witnessed first hand individuals who struggle so much with sin and who also believe the extreme reformed doctrines of election---that they actually believe they are NOT one of the elect. I think that would be absolutely terrifying.
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