Signs That "Operation Chaos" is Working

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Do any of y'all see what's happening here? Calling "Operation Chaos" honorable has failed, so now the subject has deliberately been changed to the "Democrat" party (whatever that is) and what it does and doesn't call perversion.

Don't let yourself be distracted you from the issue. It's a transparent tactic.
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I think calling it honorable failed when they called it Operation Chaos.
Operation Chaos!?
The only way it could sound more evil was if it was Operation Total Chaos or Operation Khaos.
 
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Right! Doesn't the Bible say that Jesus once said: "Not everyone who speaks my name is necessarily going to heaven" (paraphrased)? Claiming that one's political opponents are "unamerican" and/or "unchristian", as well as failing to obey valid law, doesn't seem to Christian in my book....
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Do you ever wonder what the pharisees of Jesus' day felt like when they were looking down their noses at the sinners (prostitutes, immoral folks)? I do. I think they felt smug and righteous. Like they were doing right and all else who didn't think like them were doing wrong. I wonder what the Pharisees thought when a preacher from Nazareth was seen eating with sinners while holding contempt for THEM? They had to be incredulous. And when this preacher really lashed out, it was not at the supposed sinners of the day, but at those that "corporatized the temple", people who mingled business with religion, they had to believe he was off his rocker.

Finally, I wonder how present day "pharisees" see themselves. Probably the same way as the old ones did. Smug and self righteous. I wonder how Jesus would react to them today.
 
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Do you ever wonder what the pharisees of Jesus' day felt like when they were looking down their noses at the sinners (prostitutes, immoral folks)? I do. I think they felt smug and righteous. Like they were doing right and all else who didn't think like them were doing wrong. I wonder what the Pharisees thought when a preacher from Nazareth was seen eating with sinners while holding contempt for THEM? They had to be incredulous. And when this preacher really lashed out, it was not at the supposed sinners of the day, but at those that "corporatized the temple", people who mingled business with religion, they had to believe he was off his rocker.

Finally, I wonder how present day "pharisees" see themselves. Probably the same way as the old ones did. Smug and self righteous. I wonder how Jesus would react to them today.
"I have often found that the least moral among us are those who claim to be the most moral among us" - Ringo84
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By Amanda Carpenter
Tuesday, March 25, 2008

. . . Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh is encouraging stalwart Republicans to do the unthinkable and vote for Hillary Clinton in their state’s primary to prolong the bitter battle between her and Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination . . .

(Laura) Ingraham later took up Limbaugh’s cause and has told her listeners to vote for Clinton in their primaries as well . . .

After voter registration for the closed April 22 Pennsylvania primary ended Monday, the Pennsylvania State Department reported record numbers of voters had switched their party affiliation to Democrat.
36,738 Pennsylvanians re-registered as Democrats . . .


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/25/signs_that_operation_chaos_is_working

The reason for the primaries is so each person can decide:

1. What party they wish to support
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2. which candidate within that party they want to win.

If you want John McCain to be the next president, but vote for Hillary, it's a lie, plain and simple.

Coming from Rush Limbaugh, the suggestion to lie doesn't surprise me.

That some Christians would fall for it is a sad surprise.
 
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Do you ever wonder what the pharisees of Jesus' day felt like when they were looking down their noses at the sinners (prostitutes, immoral folks)? I do. I think they felt smug and righteous. Like they were doing right and all else who didn't think like them were doing wrong. I wonder what the Pharisees thought when a preacher from Nazareth was seen eating with sinners while holding contempt for THEM? They had to be incredulous. And when this preacher really lashed out, it was not at the supposed sinners of the day, but at those that "corporatized the temple", people who mingled business with religion, they had to believe he was off his rocker.

Finally, I wonder how present day "pharisees" see themselves. Probably the same way as the old ones did. Smug and self righteous. I wonder how Jesus would react to them today.
The problem Jesus had with the Pharisees was that they claimed a righteousness while substituting their traditions for the Law of God. In our present day, while God claims homosexuality is a perversion, the American tradition is evolving to say that homosexuality is OK, normal, morally equivalent to heterosexuality. Sound familiar? Sound Pharisaical?
 
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"I have often found that the least moral among us are those who claim to be the most moral among us" - Ringo84
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Isn't our liberal friends here who claim the moral high ground of wanting to help the poor (by making somebody else pay for it), promoting the "good" of abortion and the moral equivalence of homosexuality?
 
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Isn't our liberal friends here who claim the moral high ground of wanting to help the poor (by making somebody else pay for it), promoting the "good" of abortion and the moral equivalence of homosexuality?

I've noticed that there are certain of our liberal friends here that don't want to claim responsibility for anything bad that liberals do.
 
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I've noticed that there are certain of our liberal friends here that don't want to claim responsibility for anything bad that liberals do.
Trying to distract from the issue at hand, I see.

I don't believe we're discussing Bad Things That Liberals Do, but are discussing a certain "operation" that's both possibly illegal (from what I understand from other members who've posted here) and unethical.

That's quite a misstep from the same people who claim the moral high ground in politics. Thus, my quotation (a Ringo84 original) stands.
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I've noticed that there are certain of our liberal friends here that don't want to claim responsibility for anything bad that liberals do.

Ah, the typical right winged tactic of "when in doubt, distract from the real issue at hand...". The issue here is whether or not it is right or wrong or legal or illegal for Republicans to rig the Democrats election. Apparently some feel that it is OK to do so.

To hell with democracy and integrity so long as we score some cheap political points...

Sad really how morality, ethics, and country has taken a back seat to party loyalty for many on the right.
 
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The problem Jesus had with the Pharisees was that they claimed a righteousness while substituting their traditions for the Law of God. In our present day, while God claims homosexuality is a perversion, the American tradition is evolving to say that homosexuality is OK, normal, morally equivalent to heterosexuality. Sound familiar? Sound Pharisaical?

The pharisees problem was that they valued the letter of the law over the spirit of the law. They found the speck in their brother's eye while missing the plank in their own. And what is the spirit of the law? To love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself. The spirit of the law is about love.

The modern day pharisees sees himself as righteous and his quick to point out where others are wrong in the eyes of God. But he speaks without love and is missing the spirit of the law. He is a noisy gong, a clanging cymble.

1 corinthians 13

1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.

4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
 
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I've noticed that there are certain of our liberal friends here that don't want to claim responsibility for anything bad that liberals do.
Ive noticed that there are certain of our conservative friends here that make no sense.

Why should anybody here claim responsibility for the actions of another, good or bad, liberal or conservative?
 
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The pharisees problem was that they valued the letter of the law over the spirit of the law. They found the speck in their brother's eye while missing the plank in their own. And what is the spirit of the law? To love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself. The spirit of the law is about love.

The modern day pharisees sees himself as righteous and his quick to point out where others are wrong in the eyes of God. But he speaks without love and is missing the spirit of the law. He is a noisy gong, a clanging cymble..
It seems to be our liberal friends (some of them anyway) in this thread who are finding a speck in the eyes of others and claiming the moral high ground, accusing conservatives of sinfulness for switching parties.
 
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accusing conservatives of sinfulness for switching parties.

Personally I wouldn't have a problem if they switched parties, we like having more Democrats. :)
tulc(the more the merrier I always say, well not ALWAYS, sometimes I say ""can you put 5 extra shots of espresso in there?" but after that I can be heard to mutter "the more the merrier!") :sorry:
 
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Ive noticed that there are certain of our conservative friends here that make no sense.

Why should anybody here claim responsibility for the actions of another, good or bad, liberal or conservative?


Because these "conservatives" (hahah right) are nothing more than collectivists.
 
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Poor baby. We've seen some conservatives on this forum accuse liberals of every sin under the sun, and now one's whining because unethical (and possibly sinful) behavior has been exposed for what it is?

I doubt any sympathy will be felt from most people on this thread, whose party's election is being hijacked by conservatives who know their candidate can't win.
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I think calling it honorable failed when they called it Operation Chaos.
Operation Chaos!?
The only way it could sound more evil was if it was Operation Total Chaos or Operation Khaos.

Considering the source, why not Operation Idiot?

Anyway they stack it, voting for a candidate that you don't eventually want to become Pres is a lie.

And who is always saying "The truth shall set you free?

Sometimes, the truth can be one's biggest prison.
 
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