Barack's Racial Slur: "Typical White People"

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so, from what the posts here are indicating, it would be ok to say "typical black people" think all white college girls are scared of black men? what else can we lump under the phrase "typical black people"? how about "typical asian people" or "typical muslims"?

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Typical....when one lacks a rational and logical reply, take your approach above, which is to well, espouse a diatribe inundated with non-sense.
It's not nonsense. It actually makes a great deal of sense.
 
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Yes Fineous, using 'typical' to describe something as common is acceptable as long as certain criteria are met. We know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect and they do this of their own volition. Other examples of 'typical' may say 'Typically white people do line dancing.' 'Typically black peeps arent country music fans' 'Typically blacks arent pro hockey or golf players.'
 
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It's not nonsense. It actually makes a great deal of sense.

I think you are missing the context in which the word "non-sense" was used in regards to his post.
 
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Yes Fineous, using 'typical' to describe something as common is acceptable as long as certain criteria are met. We know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect and they do this of their own volition. Other examples of 'typical' may say 'Typically white people do line dancing.' 'Typically black peeps arent country music fans' 'Typically blacks arent pro hockey or golf players.'

This is what I am talking about. This is non-sense. It is the same non-sense Obama was making when he said "typical white person." The word typical has a precise meaning and unless Obama has encountered enough white people, and obtained what they think/feel when they seek black people, to constitute an accurate representation of white people, then his use of the word "typical" is potentially rather problematic. In fact, it is rather illogical to use the word "typical" in regards to a group of people, when one has not obtained enough information about the "group of people" to make such a claim.

Obama just assumes he has encountered enough white folk to constitute as an accurate representation of the white folk group. It is this type of "assuming" certain characteristics about a race/racial group this society has been condemning for the last 40 years.

I made these remarks in my previous post and had you taken the time to read them, carefully consider them, then perhaps you would have not made the error of characterizing my post as a "whole useless rant."

Since you commit the same reasoning error as Obama when you say, "We know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect and they do this of their own volition.," then it seems to me you could have benefitted from paying attention to my "whole useless rant." How do you know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect?

It seems to me you are potentially using the same poor choice of words as Obama.
 
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This is what I am talking about. This is non-sense. It is the same non-sense Obama was making when he said "typical white person." The word typical has a precise meaning and unless Obama has encountered enough white people, and obtained what they think/feel when they seek black people, to constitute an accurate representation of white people, then his use of the word "typical" is potentially rather problematic. In fact, it is rather illogical to use the word "typical" in regards to a group of people, when one has not obtained enough information about the "group of people" to make such a claim.
Again, studies have demonstrated many times over that the majority of white people find encounters with those from cultures other than theirs uncomfortable, and take prejudicial action against such people (for instance, as was cited earlier, the average white woman will tend to lock her car doors when a black man approaches the car, but not when a white man does the same). Obama, as a student of political science and a law professor (not to mention community organizer in a community where this sort of thing could be an issue), probably knows a few of these studies quite well. So stop harping on him for using "typical". He was completely justified in its use, regardless of how much you might not like that reality. Maybe you're not a typical white person, and his characterization doesn't apply to you. But it still holds true for the population at large.
Obama just assumes he has encountered enough white folk to constitute as an accurate representation of the white folk group. It is this type of "assuming" certain characteristics about a race/racial group this society has been condemning for the last 40 years.
No, he didn't assume that at all. I'm not sure why you would choose to make that assumption yourself. He probably based that on study, not personal experience. He simply used his personal experience as an anecdote to demonstrate how he's had to deal with it himself.
I made these remarks in my previous post and had you taken the time to read them, carefully consider them, then perhaps you would have not made the error of characterizing my post as a "whole useless rant."
And, given that you've now been shown to be totally incorrect (not to mention having run wild with a totally off-base assumption), the "whole useless rant" line actually seems pretty justified.
Since you commit the same reasoning error as Obama when you say, "We know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect and they do this of their own volition.," then it seems to me you could have benefitted from paying attention to my "whole useless rant." How do you know without a doubt many whites look at blacks as suspect?
Because study supports it.
It seems to me you are potentially using the same poor choice of words as Obama.
No, again, when empirical study supports something, we're generally completely justified in citing its findings. What, are you arguing with the studies? All of them? Is that how totally reluctant you are to believe that maybe, just maybe, everything he said was accurate? I'm not sure where those blinders you are wearing came from, but you need to get rid of them. They're hurting your arguments.
 
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To me this isn't something I squabble about with people on the internet, it is dead personal.

If you call me a racist and expect my vote, I will have you committed to a mental institution if it is within my power.
Would you have any realistic grounds for this, or are you just being knee-jerk spiteful because someone tried to get you to look in a mirror?
 
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I based the comments off both studies and personal experience. Here in Boston, the subway Red Line splits after getting about 5 stops from the city. One goes towards white neighborhoods and the other to minority neighborhoods. More than one white woman has told me she wont get on the train that goes to the 'other' neighborhood. I cant even begin to re-count all such conversations. We have come a long way in race relations but still have a long way to go.
 
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Dannager handled the reply to ND's post rather well and the only other thing to add is obama's point still hasnt been addressed. What he said was not liked and not simply because of the use of 'typical.' Internalization is a reality. Another example: Boston lawyer says black man killed his pregnant wife. Everyone believed it.
 
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With all the denial of racial problems, has anyone ever checked out activity levels at sites like Stormfront or Freerepublic? Obama's candidacy is forcing many to look at themselves and our culture much more closely and the knee jerk reactions to him and Wright only serve to reinforce what they are saying. I had wondered at one point what some might say about Dr King had they been alive then. I no longer need to wonder.
 
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it's sad indeed that folks have kneejerk responses to coverup the racism shown by the candidate they're backing. hopefully, one day, we will be able to judge a person by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

oh wait, typical conservatives do that now. it's the liberals that back affirmative action and such.
 
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I dont back obama but iam curious, what is the racism he is guilty of? Also, affirmtive action in colleges has been in place mainly for white men over the last hundred years. Why is AA universally condemned when it gets applied to minorities? Seems like a glaring double standard.
 
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Yes. There's a thread about it.

If anyone's interested, it was a black guy that got slavery started in America.

^_^

Where is the thread?

So do you have a link to support that, because it is my understanding that race based slavery began in Virginia with the passage of the laws that made African indentured servants slaves for life, sometime in the early 1600's. I believe 1620.
 
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