Obama pro/con

NeTrips said:

I think when Obama says he brings change, he's saying that the rest of us are going to have to bring paper currency to pay for his plans.

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Stopping the war in Iraq should free up some funds without raising taxes.

I'm curious as to why I am supposed to only be concerned with the divisiveness of Obama's 20 year Muslim spiritual adviser, but cringe at the woman that washed his stinky butt and only sent him to the best schools after excepting him as who he was? Because his great Mum dumped him shortly after her second marriage like his daddy dumped them both.

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I'm curious as to why I am supposed to only be concerned with the divisiveness of Obama's 20 year Muslim spiritual adviser, but cringe at the woman that washed his stinky butt and only sent him to the best schools after excepting him as who he was? Because his great Mum dumped him shortly after her second marriage like his daddy dumped them both.

Citizens... giving money to the government! Such a radical idea!

HerbieHeadley said:

I'm curious as to why I am supposed to only be concerned with the divisiveness of Obama's 20 year Muslim spiritual adviser, but cringe at the woman that washed his stinky butt and only sent him to the best schools after excepting him as who he was? Because his great Mum dumped him shortly after her second marriage like his daddy dumped them both.

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Your post is so full of wrong that I don't know where to begin. Like really, do I correct you on Wright's religion first? Or point out that Barack wasn't being unkind to his grandmother? I mean, it's like a maze of wrong.

What is even more ahh-maze-een is even after the facts have proven many of the slams false, the false witnessing just keeps on a truckin.'

Dannager said:

Your post is so full of wrong that I don't know where to begin. Like really, do I correct you on Wright's religion first? Or point out that Barack wasn't being unkind to his grandmother? I mean, it's like a maze of wrong.

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A person with a history of Islamism and militancy in his family who was running for his party's nomination for President might think that being closely allied with a militant pastor who preaches race instead of grace as the solution to problems.
Call it what you want, but it ain't christianity.
Rev. Wright gave a lifetime achievement award to the anti-white, anti-Semitic, and anti-Catholic Nation Of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan. Barack Obama has called Rev. Wright his spiritual advisor and mentor.for 20 years and drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred and anti-American and anti-white preaching in his own church with his wife and children by his side.
I believe that all Americans should be proud of this country and is time to move forward and quit using the past as an excuse for reverse racism and discrimination against Americans who are "not black"
The goals of Black Liberal Theology, are to turn religion into sociology, Christianity into a political agenda, Jesus into a black Marxist rebel, and the gospel into violent revolution. They are more interested in politics than preaching the gospel.
They believe the questions about God's essence and attributes are fruitless. Instead, they are concerned about discovering a God who will involve Himself in the black experience and deliver them.
Black Liberal Theology people have heard enough about God. What they want to know is what God has to say about the black condition. Or, more importantly, what is he doing about it? The focal concern or center of this type of theology is the white oppression of blacks. Therefore, the usual theological discussions about God, Christ, and salvation are basically irrelevant.
Thus having an improper center is humanistic and pragmatic. God and Christ are not held in proper biblical perspective, and salvation has too much of a "this-world" emphasis. They need to ask the all-important question, Who is Christ? From their answer to that question, they may begin to answer whether they have a truly Christian theology.
If Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is not asking the most important question of all, (who is Christ?), then he does his congregation a disservice. For it is from this premise that all questions can be answered. The teaching of a theology written by black men for black man presented to an exclusive segment of society can only be a stumbling block to God and a nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs.
But this is the choice of Barack Obama as spiritual advisor and mentor.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION
The more I think of what this "Change is" the more I cringe. =D

RealDealNeverstop said:

What is even more ahh-maze-een is even after the facts have proven many of the slams false, the false witnessing just keeps on a truckin.'

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Some more slams.

http://westernfrontamerica.com/2008/03/20/irreverent-rev-jeremiah-wright-words/

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of «Middleclassness»
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

How does this sound?

HerbieHeadley said:

Some more slams.

http://westernfrontamerica.com/2008/03/20/irreverent-rev-jeremiah-wright-words/

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of «Middleclassness»
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

How does this sound?

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Pretty Racist. Change the 'whites' to 'blacks' and it'll be ok, though.

I wonder what it would take for the cult of Obama people to actually stop supporting him. Apparently this man can do no wrong in their eyes. So what if he did some cocain, attended a hate America church (and lied about not knowing the hate that Wright preached), had a relationship with the slimiest man in Chicago politics (and lied about his involvement and how much he received from Rezko), was raised as a muslim, won't release his SAT scores, cowars from the media when asked the tough questions, and looks down in digust as the national anthem is played (but he loves America ).

I want the kool aid Obama maniacs are drinking. Sign me up for this cult. I want to escape the reality. I want to see Obama as the Messiah that so many in his cult make him out to be.

Dannager said:

Your post is so full of wrong that I don't know where to begin

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Give it your best shot

...Barack wasn't being unkind to his grandmother? I mean, it's like a maze of wrong.

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He wasn't? It sounds to me like he called her racist. What if his mother had called Barack a typical black black man?

MachZer0 said:

Give it your best shot

He wasn't? It sounds to me like he called her racist.

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To me, that statement did not feel like Obama was calling his grandmother a racist. He made that clear in the the words he spoke both before and after that statement.

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MachZer0 said:

Give it your best shot

He wasn't? It sounds to me like he called her racist.

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To me, that statement did not feel like Obama was calling his grandmother a racist. He made that clear in the the words he spoke both before and after that statement.

Edited to add: Obama's speech has cause me to look at myself, my actions and how I treat other people. I think a lot of others, and even our nation have been doing the same as a result of Obama's speach. To me that's a sign of a pretty special person.

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HerbieHeadley said:

The more I think of what this "Change is" the more I cringe. =D

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It sound like you come close to even hating the man.

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dlamberth said:

To me, that statement did not feel like Obama was calling his grandmother a racist. He made that clear in the the words he spoke both before and after that statement.

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So if I called Obama a typical black man, you would understand that I was not being racist in my remarks?

dlamberth said:

Edited to add: Obama's speech has cause me to look at myself, my actions and how I treat other people. I think a lot of others, and
even our nation have been doing the same as a result of Obama's speach. To me that's a sign of a pretty special person..

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Sure. Maybe he could even have an influence on Uncle Jerry.

I agree, it was a great speech, and very powerful had it not come from someone who was mentored by, influenced by, and supported such a character as Wright. As it is, Obama left too
many questions unanswered for him to be lecturing the rest of us on race in this country for this speech to carry any weight, or for him to be any sort of moral authority on the subject.

Here's some more Trinty United fun- A letter to 'Oprah' from Ali Baghdadi, a former 'Middle East advisor to Ejiah Mohammed and Farrakhan. It contains the chestnut,

'I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the White Supremacists of South Africa. In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa.
The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.'

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Trinity took this seriously enough to include it in their newsletter.

Scribbler said:

Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.'

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If Obama could create one that only got rid of the people who drive slow in the fast lane and refuse to move over I'd consider voting for him.

Scribbler said:

Here's some more Trinty United fun- A letter to 'Oprah' from Ali Baghdadi, a former 'Middle East advisor to Ejiah Mohammed and Farrakhan. It contains the chestnut,

'I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the White Supremacists of South Africa. In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa.
The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.'

LINK

Trinity took this seriously enough to include it in their newsletter.

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So when the next Osama tape gets released and played on all the news networks, does that mean they agree with him?