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Ok, now I am finally home and able to sit down at a computer and give my thoughts.
First, Luther, you need to watch yourself. You are saying over and over that it is your opinion, your own catechism, and your own beliefs... then you call others fools for disagreeing with them. Joe Smith did the same thing.
I read through parts of the new testament this afternoon on my planning period while waiting for time to leave work.
In the first three books, there are two separate accounts in each book about Christ teaching the innocence of children.
In the 1st instance, Christ said that no one would enter the kindgom except as a child. In the 2nd, Christ was talking about the children and stated that the Kingdom of Heaven belonged to ones such as those.
It is also prevalent to note that when we are saved by Christ, we are children of God.
So, why must we be like a child to enter the Kingdom? Like adults, children are not free from sin. They simply are not accountable for what they do not know. They have no knowledge of sin. No knowledge of good and evil. Just like Adam and Eve were without sin when they had no knowledge of good and evil. It was when they gained that knowledge that sin entered the world.
So, children, while they may have sins in their life, are completely innocent because they have not the knowledge of good and evil. Sin does not control their lives because they don't know what it is. Their only purpose is to love and to serve, which is what Christians are called to do.
When we accept Christ, we become heirs. We are now children of God. We are not simply saved people, but children. We are now innocent of our sin because the blood of Christ covers it. We are now like children. Although we still sin, our innocence is not lost because we are covered. Just like children who have no capacity to understand good and evil are innocent as well.
Randy, allow me to hit on a couple of things you said.
Children are not born bad. They are not born good either. They are born.
A child is not automatically bad. It is their nature to explore and gain knowledge of how things work. Parents do not spank a childn's hand because grabbing a flower pot is a sin. They do it to protect the child from harm that could come from the flower pot being pulled on top of that child.
My nephew turns 2 next month. A few weeks back when I was at home recovering from my gun shot incident, my sister had to drop him off for a few hours while she did some things. He was sitting on my lap watching cartoons. He had a bowl of dry cereal in his lap. He would eat one, then he would push the next one towards my mouth. I never asked him to do that. That was just him. That was part of who he is.
Part of the reason that children are so innocent and that we must be like them to enter the kingdom is dependence. We must depend on Christ. Children depend on the protection of others and ability of others to meet their needs. They can not do it on their own.
Accepting Christ is a choice. When a child does not understand that choice and can not comprehend that choice, how can that child make the choice?
If you are trying to convince me that there is a god out there that sends children to hell for dying before they can comprehend the truth, I want no part of that god you serve. I will stick to the God who says the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to the children.
Coach
First, Luther, you need to watch yourself. You are saying over and over that it is your opinion, your own catechism, and your own beliefs... then you call others fools for disagreeing with them. Joe Smith did the same thing.
I read through parts of the new testament this afternoon on my planning period while waiting for time to leave work.
In the first three books, there are two separate accounts in each book about Christ teaching the innocence of children.
In the 1st instance, Christ said that no one would enter the kindgom except as a child. In the 2nd, Christ was talking about the children and stated that the Kingdom of Heaven belonged to ones such as those.
It is also prevalent to note that when we are saved by Christ, we are children of God.
So, why must we be like a child to enter the Kingdom? Like adults, children are not free from sin. They simply are not accountable for what they do not know. They have no knowledge of sin. No knowledge of good and evil. Just like Adam and Eve were without sin when they had no knowledge of good and evil. It was when they gained that knowledge that sin entered the world.
So, children, while they may have sins in their life, are completely innocent because they have not the knowledge of good and evil. Sin does not control their lives because they don't know what it is. Their only purpose is to love and to serve, which is what Christians are called to do.
When we accept Christ, we become heirs. We are now children of God. We are not simply saved people, but children. We are now innocent of our sin because the blood of Christ covers it. We are now like children. Although we still sin, our innocence is not lost because we are covered. Just like children who have no capacity to understand good and evil are innocent as well.
Randy, allow me to hit on a couple of things you said.
Children are not born bad. They are not born good either. They are born.
A child is not automatically bad. It is their nature to explore and gain knowledge of how things work. Parents do not spank a childn's hand because grabbing a flower pot is a sin. They do it to protect the child from harm that could come from the flower pot being pulled on top of that child.
My nephew turns 2 next month. A few weeks back when I was at home recovering from my gun shot incident, my sister had to drop him off for a few hours while she did some things. He was sitting on my lap watching cartoons. He had a bowl of dry cereal in his lap. He would eat one, then he would push the next one towards my mouth. I never asked him to do that. That was just him. That was part of who he is.
Part of the reason that children are so innocent and that we must be like them to enter the kingdom is dependence. We must depend on Christ. Children depend on the protection of others and ability of others to meet their needs. They can not do it on their own.
Accepting Christ is a choice. When a child does not understand that choice and can not comprehend that choice, how can that child make the choice?
If you are trying to convince me that there is a god out there that sends children to hell for dying before they can comprehend the truth, I want no part of that god you serve. I will stick to the God who says the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to the children.
Coach
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