Be cool..Part 2

Hi zazzaz, you have some great questions here.

"How can he be God and be twelve years old?!DOSE GOD grow in wisdom and body and age?!Growing is human,not divine. "

God is the only one who is perfect. God knew that in order to redeem man, He alone would have to act as our sacrifice to bring us back into a right relationship with Him. So, God became flesh to pay the price for our sins. Now that's love. One God, the same God, in earthly form.

"JESUS SAID,THEREFORE AM i SENT.[luke4:43}HE ADMITS THAT HE IS A Prophet,not God.

He did not say he was a prophet, he simply said he was sent. However if he would have called himself a prophet, he would have also been correct. (see below).

"How can Jesus be God and prayer to God?!Praying is human,not divive.

If God were to qualify Himself to pay for our sins, He would have to be completely human, both in form and in need. He was subject to the same difficulties and troubles as all humans. Therefore He prayed for guidance, just like we must.

"The audience glorified God and not Jesus and they referred to Jesus as a great prohet,not as God. "

Man's perception of Jesus does not change who He is. They did not know who He was, like many today do not know who He is. They assumed He was a prophet of God, they didn't yet know Him as Messiah. If they would have recognized Him as God, He would never have been able to pay for our sins on the cross.

"disciples often addressed him as master,i.e.,teacher{luke7:40}.They didnot address him as God.He was never addressed as God. "

His own disciples didn't know who He was until after the resurrection. Then he revealed Himself to them. Then they understood the divine plan and Christianity was born.

"Why did he look there?To ask for God`s support.This proves his manhood and negates his divinity.How can he be God and aske God for help?!A begging god?!! "

He looked to God because as a human, God was his only support. It does not however negate his divinity at all. Rather, it shows that we too must rely on God.

"Messiah.Jesus was the Messiah"

Yes He is!

"a word which,by definition,means blessed by God."

Or, anointed one and His anointing. God blessed Himself. He was subjected to our earthly temptations and did not fall.

"Jesus said,If I with the finger of God cast out devils..."

Does Jesus claim to possess the finger of God? Hmmmm....

"{luke11:20}.Jesus here admits that his miracles are by God`s will and God`s support.How can Jesus be God if his miracles are not by his own authority?!!

God cannot support Himself? He cannot speak of Himself in the third person? Again, Jesus was God in human form. He was subject to the same laws of physics and nature as we are. He allowed himself to have the same needs as we do. Therefore, he was dependant on God (himself) as we would be, and are.

"Escaping.In fear of being killed by Herod{luke13:31}"

You are taking this verse completely out of context. Let's talk about the verse preceeding this one. (Luk 13:31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee. Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third [day] I shall be perfected.

Doesn't sound like Jesus was "escaping in fear" to me. To the contrary, He was on a divine mission and proclaimed Himself to be resurrected on the third day.

"Jesus said,I must walk today and tomorrow and the day following for it cannot be that a prohet perish out of Jerusalem."

A prophet is defined as: "one who, moved by the Spirit of God and hence his organ or spokesman, solemnly declares to men what he has received by inspiration, especially concerning future events, and in particular such as relate to the cause and kingdom of God and to human salvation"

By that definition Jesus was correct in calling himself a prophet. He was also God. He was also Human.

God is described as all omnipotent (all powerful) Omniscient (all knowing) and Omnipresent (everywhere). If you can grasp this concept, why would it be so foreign to think that God could be human, AND God at the same time?

Originally posted by Mike K
Hi zazzaz, you have some great questions here.
"How can he be God and be twelve years old?!DOSE GOD grow in wisdom and body and age?!Growing is human,not divine. "
God is the only one who is perfect. God knew that in order to redeem man, He alone would have to act as our sacrifice to bring us back into a right relationship with Him. So, God became flesh to pay the price for our sins. Now that's love. One God, the same God, in earthly form.
"JESUS SAID,THEREFORE AM i SENT.[luke4:43}HE ADMITS THAT HE IS A Prophet,not God.
He did not say he was a prophet, he simply said he was sent. However if he would have called himself a prophet, he would have also been correct. (see below).
"How can Jesus be God and prayer to God?!Praying is human,not divive.
If God were to qualify Himself to pay for our sins, He would have to be completely human, both in form and in need. He was subject to the same difficulties and troubles as all humans. Therefore He prayed for guidance, just like we must.
"The audience glorified God and not Jesus and they referred to Jesus as a great prohet,not as God. "
Man's perception of Jesus does not change who He is. They did not know who He was, like many today do not know who He is. They assumed He was a prophet of God, they didn't yet know Him as Messiah. If they would have recognized Him as God, He would never have been able to pay for our sins on the cross.
"disciples often addressed him as master,i.e.,teacher{luke7:40}.They didnot address him as God.He was never addressed as God. "
His own disciples didn't know who He was until after the resurrection. Then he revealed Himself to them. Then they understood the divine plan and Christianity was born.
"Why did he look there?To ask for God`s support.This proves his manhood and negates his divinity.How can he be God and aske God for help?!A begging god?!! "
He looked to God because as a human, God was his only support. It does not however negate his divinity at all. Rather, it shows that we too must rely on God.
"Messiah.Jesus was the Messiah"
Yes He is!
"a word which,by definition,means blessed by God."
Or, anointed one and His anointing. God blessed Himself. He was subjected to our earthly temptations and did not fall.
"Jesus said,If I with the finger of God cast out devils..."
Does Jesus claim to possess the finger of God? Hmmmm....
"{luke11:20}.Jesus here admits that his miracles are by God`s will and God`s support.How can Jesus be God if his miracles are not by his own authority?!!
God cannot support Himself? He cannot speak of Himself in the third person? Again, Jesus was God in human form. He was subject to the same laws of physics and nature as we are. He allowed himself to have the same needs as we do. Therefore, he was dependant on God (himself) as we would be, and are.
"Escaping.In fear of being killed by Herod{luke13:31}"
You are taking this verse completely out of context. Let's talk about the verse preceeding this one. (Luk 13:31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee. Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third [day] I shall be perfected.
Doesn't sound like Jesus was "escaping in fear" to me. To the contrary, He was on a divine mission and proclaimed Himself to be resurrected on the third day.
"Jesus said,I must walk today and tomorrow and the day following for it cannot be that a prohet perish out of Jerusalem."
A prophet is defined as: "one who, moved by the Spirit of God and hence his organ or spokesman, solemnly declares to men what he has received by inspiration, especially concerning future events, and in particular such as relate to the cause and kingdom of God and to human salvation"
By that definition Jesus was correct in calling himself a prophet. He was also God. He was also Human.
God is described as all omnipotent (all powerful) Omniscient (all knowing) and Omnipresent (everywhere). If you can grasp this concept, why would it be so foreign to think that God could be human, AND God at the same time?

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OUCH!!!
Go eay on Zazzaz...
i would say you opened up a can of preach-it on him...
but i believe you opened up an entire case...
AWESOME!!

>>12...Twelve years old.Jesus become twelve years{luke2:42}.Jesus INCREASED in wisdom and stature.{luke2:52}.How can he be God and be twelve years old?!DOSE GOD grow in wisdom and body and age?!Growing is human,not divine.

Jesus was the same as Adam before the fall. He was made in the image of God. He had a body, just like you and I have, but He had divine blood flowing though His veins. He had a divine nature, and He had divine thoughts. He was truely a son of man, and also a Son of God. He came to die in the place of Adam. So that all who were born again could be redeemed. In order to be born again, you have to become a son of God. You have to take on the divine nature of God, you have to take on the divine thoughts of God. You have to have the Jesus attitude. The same attitude Jesus had when He walked the Earth.

If He had sin, then He would only be dieing for Himself and His own sin. But He was free from all sin, so He died in my place and in your place, for us who desire to be redeemed.

When He was baptised by John The Baptisted, that was when He received the Holy Spirit of God. The Body was brought into submission to His divinity. Everything He did was the work of the Holy Spirit of God in Him. His thoughts were not His own, they came from the Father. He really had no unfair advantage over us. While divine blood flowed through His veins, we who are born again have divine blood in our soul.

Amen JohnR7

how long have you been preaching?
(jokeing)

I wonder who this person is..........

According to your Profile your are Muslim. First of all I don't know why you are on a Christian board, but since you are here.

Here is a few for you to answer.

1. Does the Koran say that Jesus was sinless?
2. Does the Koran tell Mohammad to repent?
3. Was Jesus the Messiah ?
4. Was Mohammad the Messiah?
5. Where's the body of Jesus ?
6. Where's the body of Mohammad?