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HAS YAHUWEH CALLED YOU?

Has Yahuweh chosen and called you in YahuwehShua Messiah to reign with Him in His kingdom? Do the following passages speak of you?

1.) The poor are chosen by Yahuweh to reign:
Jas 2:1 My brothers, do not hold the belief of our Master YahuwehShua Messiah, the Master of esteem, with partiality.
Jas 2:2 For if there should come into your meeting a man with gold rings, in a splendid robe, and there should also come in a poor one dressed in rags,
Jas 2:3 and you pay attention to the one wearing the splendid robe and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor one, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here by my feet,”
Jas 2:4 have you not discriminated among yourselves, and become judges with wicked thoughts?
Jas 2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers: Has Elohim not chosen the poor of this world, rich in belief and heirs of the reign which He promised to those who love Him?

2.) The low-born and the despised are chosen:
1Co 1:22 And since Yehudim ask a sign, and Greeks seek wisdom,
1Co 1:23 yet we proclaim Messiah impaled, to the Yehuḏim a stumbling-block and to the Greeks foolishness,
1Co 1:24 but to those who are called – both Yehudim and Greeks – Messiah the power of Elohim and the wisdom of Elohim.
1Co 1:25 For the foolishness of Elohim is wiser than men, and the weakness of Elohim is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26 For look at your calling, brothers, that there were not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble.
1Co 1:27 But Elohim has chosen the foolish matters of the world to put to shame the wise, and Elohim has chosen the weak of the world to put to shame the strong.
1Co 1:28 And Elohim has chosen the low-born of the world and the despised, and the ones that are not, that He might bring to naught the ones that are,
1Co 1:29 so that no flesh should boast in His presence.

3.) Those that are called to reign with Messiah hear Messiah's words and obey His commands.
Joh 10:2 “But he who enters through the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 “The doorkeeper opens for him, and the sheep hear his voice. And he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
Joh 10:4 “And when he has brought out his own sheep, he goes before them. And the sheep follow him, because they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 “And they shall by no means follow a stranger, but shall flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”

Joh 8:47 “He who is of Elohim hears the Words of Elohim, therefore you do not hear because you are not of Elohim.”

Heb 5:9 And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting deliverance to all those obeying Him

Joh 14:23 Yahshua answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our stay with him.

1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands.
1Jn 2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Elohim has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.

4.) The chosen and called ones are persecuted, afflicted, and suffer for the sake of Messiah and the coming Reign of Elohim, and are counted worthy of the Kingdom.
2Th 1:4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the assemblies of Elohim for your endurance and belief in all your persecutions and afflictions which you are bearing,
2Th 1:5 clear evidence of the righteous judgment of Elohim, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of Elohim, for which you also suffer,
2Th 1:6 since Elohim shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you,
2Th 1:7 and to give you who are afflicted rest with us when the Master YahuwehShua is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers,
2Th 1:8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know Elohim, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master YahuwehShua Messiah,
2Th 1:9 who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength,
2Th 1:10 when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.
2Th 1:11 To this end we always pray for you that our Elohim would count you worthy of this calling, and complete all the good pleasure of goodness, and the work of belief with power,

Rev 2:10 “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. See, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, in order to try you, and you shall have pressure ten days. Be trustworthy until death, and I shall give you the crown of life.

1Pe 5:10 And the Elohim of all favour, who called you to His everlasting esteem by Messiah YahuwehShua, after you have suffered a while, Himself perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved ones, do not be surprised at the fiery trial that is coming upon you, to try you, as though some unusual matter has befallen you,
1Pe 4:13 but as you share Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice, in order that you might rejoice exultingly at the revelation of His esteem.

1Pe 2:20 For what credit is there in enduring a beating when you sin? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure, this finds favour with Elohim.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps

Act 5:41 Then indeed they went rejoicing from the presence of the council, because they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His Name.

Heb 13:12 And so Yahshua also suffered outside the gate, to set apart the people with His own blood.

Heb 13:13 Let us, then, go to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach.
Heb 13:14 For we have no lasting city here, but we seek the one coming.

Php 1:29 Because to you it has been given as a favour, on behalf of Messiah, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake

Rom 8:17 and if children, also heirs – truly heirs of Elohim, and co-heirs with Messiah, if indeed we suffer with Him, in order that we also be exalted together 2Ti 2:11 Trustworthy is the word: For if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him.

2Ti 2:12 If we endure, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also shall deny us.

5.) The called-ones that inherit the esteem of the Kingdom of Yahuweh are delclared right by Yahuweh.
Rom 8:28 And we know that all matters work together for good to those who love Elohim, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Rom 8:29 Because those whom He knew beforehand, He also ordained beforehand to be conformed to the likeness of His Son, for Him to be the first-born among many brothers.
Rom 8:30 And whom He ordained beforehand, these He also called, and whom He called, these He also declared right. And whom He declared right, these He also esteemed.

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were set apart, but you were declared right in the Name of the Master YahuwehShua and by the Spirit of our Elohim.

Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been declared right by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been declared right by belief, we have peace with Elohim through our Master YahuwehShua Messiah,
Rom 5:2 through whom also we have access by belief into this favour in which we stand, and we exult in the expectation of the esteem of Elohim.

Rom 3:24 being declared right, without paying, by His favour through the redemption which is in Messiah YahuwehShua,

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the Torah are righteous in the sight of Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be declared right.

Luk 18:9 And He also spoke this parable to some who relied on themselves that they were righteous, and looking down on others:
Luk 18:10 “Two men went up to the Set-apart Place to pray – the one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Luk 18:11 “The Pharisee stood and began to pray with himself this way, ‘Elohim, I thank You that I am not like the rest of men, swindlers, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.
Luk 18:12 ‘I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess.’
Luk 18:13 “But the tax collector standing at a distance would not even raise his eyes to the heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘Elohim, show favour unto me, a sinner!’
Luk 18:14 “I say to you, this man went down to his house declared right, rather than the other. For everyone who is exalting himself shall be humbled, and he who is humbling himself shall be exalted.”

Mat 12:37 “For by your words you shall be declared righteous, and by your words you shall be declared unrighteous.”

Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.

Tit 3:7 that having been declared right by His favour we should become heirs according to the expectation of age-abiding life.

Favor and peace to all,

Sabatismos

P.S. I would like to hear from my brothers and sisters who feel that they are called for these things!
 

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P.S. I would like to hear from my brothers and sisters who feel that they are called for these things!
I am redeemed by faith in the Sacrifice, through Grace, demonstrated by my works ..... works save/d no one, faith without the demonstration of the work of obedience is dead... granting it is a very fine line to walk in reality for some folk for whom the individual acts of this work or that become the hall mark of salvation or the lack thereof - for this reason it is not required of the gentile believers that they should take on the whole body of works lest they burden them selves to the point of death/rejection/falling away with the minutia of works as the life and purpose of their submission -- but they are, rather, encouraged to follow the minimum for inclusion in the camp of Israel and also encouraged to grow as the Ruakh gives them understanding wisdom and strength.
 
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Yes... all effort is being made to find the name....
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Instead of letting the Lord give the name to them.
 
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I sickens me how you all speak about Sabatismos as if he were invisible.
How rude can people get.....ganging up on a person asking a genuine and hearfelt question?

:sick:

I rememeber when I posted my very first message in here I was pounced upon with the very same accusations. No welcome!...Just an attack from certain members.

It's downright shameful.
 
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ganging up on a person asking a genuine and hearfelt question?
I'd agree with you if he had asked a genuine heartfelt question. However, I don't consider preaching sacred namer bunk "heartfelt". It would be different if a first post was "Hi, I'm Sabatismos, let me introduce myself." He certainly would have been received warmly in that case.

Instead, we have a we have a clear motivation from someone to propagate their theology: from the title of the thread, to the question asked, to the choice of translation used.

Moreover, we're not "ganging up on someone", we ourselves are expressing what we think about the sacred namer movement.
 
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while I did not "pounce" - I do have to say that coming in and posting an OP of which 95% is scripture quips with highlights and added emphasis is not asking an earnest question - asking if we consider ourselves "called" based on an obvious predetermined POV is not asking a question .....

The poor are chosen by Adonai to reign - so are the wealthy, no?: Nicodemus, Lydia, Paul .....

The low-born and the despised are chosen - and the high-born and honored are rejected?? Kings, leaders, philanthropists?

Those that are called to reign with Messiah hear Messiah's words and obey His commands - that pretty much is a given, hmmm

The chosen and called ones are persecuted, afflicted, and suffer for the sake of Messiah and the coming Reign of Elohim, and are counted worthy of the Kingdom - again this is pretty much a given .... all those who submit to his will and kingship will not be well submitted to the will an kingship of any world system, thus all in His Kingdom will be afflicted in this life in one way or another, some more, some less ...

The called-ones that inherit the esteem of the Kingdom of Adonai are declared right by Adonai - all that is necessary to be declare "right" (by this I assume is meant righteous) is to submit to the truth or our total inadequacy to earn or be worthy of any of this and to admit that we are totally unworthy and only HaShem can make us worthy - our response to that act of supreme love on His part is total humble service and obedience on our part....

AND to give up any goal seeking such as earning the right to reign - there is only One King and Judge - some may be chosen, as were the 70 Elders by Moshe`, to serve both the King and the people - but I doubt that they will "reign" in the way most people take it to mean ....

"many are called ..... few are chosen...."

Rom 8:19
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]if we are children, then we are also heirs, heirs of God and joint-heirs with the Messiah - provided we are suffering with him in order also to be glorified with him.

Eph 3:6
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]in union with the Messiah and through the Good News the Gentiles were to be joint heirs, a joint body and joint sharers with the Jews in what God has promised.

Tit 3:7
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]He did it so that by his grace we might come to be considered righteous by God and become heirs, with the certain hope of eternal life.

BTW - over whom are those who "reign" supposed to reign? Are there going to be some lower classes in the Kingdom?
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I sickens me how you all speak about Sabatismos as if he were invisible.
How rude can people get.....ganging up on a person asking a genuine and hearfelt question?

:sick:

I rememeber when I posted my very first message in here I was pounced upon with the very same accusations. No welcome!...Just an attack from certain members.

It's downright shameful.
Thanks Bon,

At least there is SOMEONE with kindness and truth in their heart. Yes, it is shameful how I am treated. But i am used to such things. Favor and peace to you,

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Yes, it is shameful how I am treated.
I guess you should expect to be treated in the same manner as you introduce yourself. If you introduce an agenda that you want to push rather than yourself, we will talk about the agenda, and not you.

So yeah, you want to push the Sacred Namer agenda, I have no reason to welcome you. Had you introduced yourself, I would be welcoming you, not rejecting your agenda.
 
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Called! Most definately.
Chosen? I do hope he finds me worthy!

Does this parable speak to you? Lu.14:7 ¶ Now he told a parable to those who were invited, when he marked how they chose the places of honor, saying to them,8 "When you are invited by any one to a marriage feast, do not sit down in a place of honor, lest a more eminent man than you be invited by him; 9 and he who invited you both will come and say to you, ‘Give place to this man,’ and then you will begin with shame to take the lowest place. 10 But when you are invited, go and sit in the lowest place, so that when your host comes he may say to you, ‘Friend, go up higher’; then you will be honored in the presence of all who sit at table with you.
11 For every one who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Shalom

BTW Bon, you may want to go to the first post of this person and see if the admonishment was appropriate.

Shalom
 
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Jud 1:17 But you, beloved ones, remember the words spoken before by the emissaries of our Master YahuwehShua Messiah,
Jud 1:18 because they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own wicked lusts.
Jud 1:19 These are the ones who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.

This Scripture came to mind as I read the posts that mocked me, The Scriptures, The Name, and the "Sacred Namers".

Friends, I have Jewish blood in my veins. I keep Kosher, keep the Sabbath and the Appointed Times, etc., so I think I have the right to say this: You should be ashamed of yourselves. When you act and say things the way you do you give Jewish people a bad reputation. There was no reason whatsoever for you mock and ridicule me and what I wrote.


I was sincerely asking THOSE WHO BELIEVE LIKE I DO TO RESPOND TO MY POST. Go back and read what I wrote. Again, shame on you.

Sabatismos


 
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Some very strong language is being used here.

While the words where not exactly "loving" I wouldn't consider them mocking. Mocking to me is a little more...vishious and hateful. The words were more impatient.

Nor do I think the reaction to the original post was very wise and holy.

I think the issue here (and throughout this website as a whole from my experience) is that people are very quick to take up a spirit of offense.

You are all chosing to take on this spirit!

You chose to be offended by the original post.
You chose to be offended by the posts there after.

This does not mean that I believe that either party is right or wrong, in fact I believe that all of you have acted in a way unbecoming a believe in Yeshua Adonai.

Sabatismos I ask you to examine your motives for the approach to the original post and the offense there after.

My other fellow members please examine your motives for your posts thereafter. Where they in a spirit of love and perhaps sadness if you do not agree with the doctrine or where they in a spirit of inpatience and the need to correct who is right?

Bon - your language was very strong, do you perhaps hold some lingering resentment towards your fellow members because of your initial interations?
 
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"this place is getting flooded with sacred namers. yeesh"

"yes they seem to be turning up every where..."

"ah well, to every thing a season ...."

"Have you noticed, they each have their own special pronunciation? It is a theology based on division."

"Oh yes... and each one has been secretly revealed by G-d THE secret name."


"I don't consider preaching sacred namer bunk "heartfelt"."


"So yeah, you want to push the Sacred Namer agenda, I have no reason to welcome you."


This is mocking. There is no love here. Again, I posted the thread to find out if there were any brothers that embraced what I do. These are the responses I get. I was justified for defending myself and reproving these people that act hatefully.

I have no ill-will or hate toward anyone in this forum, and I extend to you all the love and friendship of a brother.


Favor and peace to all,


Sabatismos
 
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Friends, I have Jewish blood in my veins. I keep Kosher, keep the Sabbath and the Appointed Times

"Jewish blood" does not a Jew make...neither does
keeping kosher, being shomer shabbas, etc. Is your
mother Jewish? If so....
I think I have the right to say this: You should be ashamed of yourselves. When you act and say things the way you do you give Jewish people a bad reputation.
You have a right to say it no matter what your background.
However, be aware that most of the people on the forum
are Gentile, not Jewish, so their words should have no
effect on peoples perceptions of Jews. (Not that it
matters if people are Jews or Gentiles; we are all one
family here).
There was no reason whatsoever for you mock and ridicule me and what I wrote.
I agree with you here....
:wave:



 
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