Originally posted by thetruthseeker
Hi Coastie,
Let's not go by heresy, but the Bible. Flames are flames. Let's test the spirit.
My mother once experienced a deep comma that lasted about 4 days. This happened after child birth (my older sister). She experienced being in nothingness while from time to time hearing the people who where caring for her ailment. Physical trauma affects people differently. Many people are affected mentally at least temporarily by intense physical trauma.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish .
Psalms 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD , neither any that go down into silence.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. This does not distinguish between the good or the bad.
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing , neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish , and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away .
Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up , saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch .
The dead do not know anything. However, the dead will be resurrected at Jesus' second coming. It will not be a secret rapture as the Futurist view of prophecy states . All eyes will see Him at His second coming.
Matthew 24:25-27 Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers ; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout , with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first : Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord . Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Peter 3:10-12 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise , and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up . Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him , and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Thanks for your reply, Coastie.
Your brother in Christ,
TheTruthSeeker